screwedovertwenty Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) I am not religious. I would consider myself agnostic. I do however believe in the afterlife and have received messages from my parents since their deaths through dreams. I am a huge Rolling Stones fan and I have said that if there is a God, he speaks to me through the Stones. I know it sounds crazy, but let me give one example. A family member did something very bad and was looking at serious prison time. I wanted nothing more than to for him not to have to go to prison. I loved this kid and believed it would only ruin him. As I pulled into the parking lot of the courthouse, the day of his trial, what song comes on the radio? "You can't always get what you want". I just know this was not a coincidence. A few weeks before dday, after a conversation with my youngest about which double album was better (the Beatles White Album or the Stones Exile on Mainstreet), I pulled out my old dvd of the making of Exile. I watched it a few times and then put the cd in my car. It was the cd I that was getting the most play when dday happened. I began obsessing on it. When I realized that the OW was a dancer, I was almost sick. I think that is when I began believing that my dad (from the other side) wanted that whole album to be a message to me. The very first song is "Rocks off" Edited March 25, 2013 by a LoveShack.org Moderator removed lyrics, without citation they are not allowed to be posted
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 I am not religious. I would consider myself agnostic. I do however believe in the afterlife and have received messages from my parents since their deaths through dreams. I am a huge Rolling Stones fan and I have said that if there is a God, he speaks to me through the Stones. I know it sounds crazy, but let me give one example. A family member did something very bad and was looking at serious prison time. I wanted nothing more than to for him not to have to go to prison. I loved this kid and believed it would only ruin him. As I pulled into the parking lot of the courthouse, the day of his trial, what song comes on the radio? "You can't always get what you want". I just know this was not a coincidence. A few weeks before dday, after a conversation with my youngest about which double album was better (the Beatles White Album or the Stones Exile on Mainstreet), I pulled out my old dvd of the making of Exile. I watched it a few times and then put the cd in my car. It was the cd I that was getting the most play when dday happened. I began obsessing on it. When I realized that the OW was a dancer, I was almost sick. I think that is when I began believing that my dad (from the other side) wanted that whole album to be a message to me. The very first song is "Rocks off" and here are the lyrics... ROCKS OFF (M. Jagger/K. Richards) Oh yeah! ]I hear you talking when I'm on the street, Your mouth don't move but I can hear you speak. What's the matter with the boy? He don't come around no more, Is he checking out for sure? Is he gonna close the door on me? I'm always hearing voices on the street, I want to shout, but I can't hardly speak. I was making love last night To a dancer friend of mine. I can't seem to stay in step, 'Cause she come ev'ry time that she pirouettes over me. And I only get my rocks off while I'm dreaming, I only get my rocks off while I'm sleeping. I'm zipping through the days at lightning speed. Plug in, flush out and fire the ****in' feed. Heading for the overload, Splattered on the dirty road, Kick me like you've kicked before, I can't even feel the pain no more. But I only get my rocks off while I'm dreaming,(only get them off) I only get my rocks off while I'm sleeping Feel so hypnotized, can't describe the scene. Its all mesmerized all that inside me. The sunshine bores the daylights out of me. Chasing shadows moonlight mystery. Headed for the overload, Splattered on the dirty road, Kick me like you've kicked before, I can't even feel the pain no more But I only get my rocks off while I'm dreaming (only get them off, get them off), I only get my rocks off while I'm sleeping (only get them off, get them off). It's been almost four months since dday and I am still listening to this cd. (Not constantly, I promise!) I am still processing all of my own meanings to all of the songs. The last song on the cd is "Soul Survivor". This is what is scaring me. I feel like my dad is telling me to get the heck out of this marriage. I know that I will be the soul survivor if this happens. I know I will be okay either way. I am terrified by what it could mean to my children. I don't think my husband would survive very well on his own. I could see this as a reason for him to start drinking again. I love my husband and I want this to work. He is trying. He is sorry. He is remorseful. He is transparent. He has been willing to do anything I have asked. He answers all of my questions. He is doing everything that he should be doing. But, there are more signs! My ringfinger started itching a few days after dday. That is when I took my rings off. It itched so much for the first few months and every now and then it still itches. I know that is probably psychological and not a real sign. This one is big though, to me. My dad died the month of my seventeenth birthday. My mom died seventeen years later on the seventeenth. That family member that went to prison was seventeen when he commited the crime that sent him there. When my mom died, I started to believe that I was cursed and that there was really something to this "seventeen" thing. I have worried about it. Worried about my seventeenth year of marriage. Worried about when my kids turn seventeen. It's been in the (not too far) back of my mind for years. My husband cheated on me throughout our seventeenth year of marriage. We just celebrated our seventeen year anniversary in October. Dday was in November, less than a month later. The OW is seventeen years younger than me. Right after Christmas (which was very very bad for us and I had told him that I did not want to work things out), we went to MC and he begged me to take him back. I didn't answer him in counseling. I waited until later. I texted him later that day that I would give it one more try. Seventeen minutes later he called the fake number I set up to test him with. He thought it was her new number. He said that he was calling her to tell her not to bother us because we were trying to work things out. I believe this but look at all the seventeens in this story! Like I said, I love him. I want this to work. But what if it just isn't supposed to? What if these are real signs??? What if my dad really did find a way to get me to listen to(and eventually obsess, because that is what I do) on this cd? Am I crazy???
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 Sorry. I tried to edit the post but it wouldn't let me. It was full of font stuff. Looks like it was edited by the moderator. I copied and posted the original post without the fonts.
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 Moderator edited because I didn't follow rules about lyrics! Sorry! Here is the link! Rocks Off - Lyrics
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 I have OCD issues and numbers are very important to me. I think you are overthinking and obsessing and looking for meaning in things that probably aren't actually there. When people feel out of control they look for structure, for things that let them make order out of chaos. I never rule anything out because I'm not arrogant enough to think that I know any absolutes, but this seems a really cryptic way to get messages to you if it were true. Have you given any thought to the idea that maybe it's your own mind sharing things with you in a way that will help you to order your thinking? Do you journal? It could very well be my own mind. I almost hope it is. I have OCD issues as well. The number thing has bothered me for years. It's been ten years since I made the connection between my parents deaths. That's when I started worrying about what was going to happen in seventeen years, or when I had been married seventeen years or when my kids turned seventeen. I want my marriage to survive. I just feel like maybe it just isn't supposed to. 1
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 I do not journal. I should. I write poetry when they come to me. I wrote quite a few on and after dday. I stopped though. I should get back at it. It really does help me put my thoughts together and sometimes they turn out half decent. As far as the cryptic message from my dad, I have convinced myself this is a message. Music is important to me. Lyrics are important to me. My dad has been gone since I was a teenager. He was the one who I went to for advice until he died. He was my rock, and his death devastated me. My music obsession pulled me out of the deep depression I was in after he died. One of the first "message dreams" that I had from him was just a big smile with eye contact that I will never forget. In the dream, I was at a concert, and snuck up to the front to see the band better. I was having a great time. I turned around and there was my dad sitting behind me smiling ear to ear. I knew this meant that he was happy that I was happy. I still believe that. 1
BetrayedH Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 He is trying. He is sorry. He is remorseful. He is transparent. He has been willing to do anything I have asked. He answers all of my questions. He is doing everything that he should be doing. Just my $.02, I would be paying a lot more attention to this ^^^ than I would any other "signs" that you may be seeing. 2
Spark1111 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I think if you are a deeply spiritual, not necessarily religious person, yes, the world is filled with a whole slew of glorious coincidences that we can interpret anyway that is meaningful to us! I remember a series of similiar events after dday and I also felt an emotional intensity about everything happening around me. Music especially seemed to be poignant as just as I was asking a question in my head, a song with an answer would come over the radio and I had to laugh. Trauma and the resulting adrenaline can do that to our senses; heighten and intensify. But I would never be dismissive of someone who felt the universe was trying to send them some sort of message through mundane events. Why not? Who is to say those on the other side do not feel our pain and try to reach out and comfort us? 2
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 Thank you all. I am drunk right now. Did a double today on my stupid birthday! I think they are signs. My best friend in TX thinks so too, but wouldn't give her opinion on what I should do yet. I can't figure out if I love him or if I just don't want my kids to be ****ed up;.
BetrayedH Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I hope that those above can also reduce hangover symptoms. 1
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 I hope that those above can also reduce hangover symptoms. Well, I was blessed with Irish genes and just woke up dehydrated! I guess that is sortof help from above? 1
Owl Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I don't consider myself deeply religous or deeply spiritual. I have beliefs, but they're not completely center to my life. With that said, during my wife's EA, as I was becoming more and more concerned, a real turning point occurred one night as I was walking our dog. I was upset/unhappy because I could sense the distance and was starting to see that there was more interaction between her and OM than she was telling me. I prayed...asked God for a sign. Asked him to show me a sign if I had something truly to be worried about. At that exact moment, a meteor shot across the sky. Coincidence? Miracle? I don't care to ask myself the question. But...that was the night before I started monitoring her online communications...and it was the following week that d-day occurred. 1
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 I think if you are a deeply spiritual, not necessarily religious person, yes, the world is filled with a whole slew of glorious coincidences that we can interpret anyway that is meaningful to us! I remember a series of similiar events after dday and I also felt an emotional intensity about everything happening around me. Music especially seemed to be poignant as just as I was asking a question in my head, a song with an answer would come over the radio and I had to laugh. Trauma and the resulting adrenaline can do that to our senses; heighten and intensify. But I would never be dismissive of someone who felt the universe was trying to send them some sort of message through mundane events. Why not? Who is to say those on the other side do not feel our pain and try to reach out and comfort us? Thank you so much for your reply. I feel a little less ridiculous now for voicing what has been eating at me for a long time. I actually would not consider myself to be deeply spiritual. I used to believe and pray. When my dad died, I gave up on God. I stopped praying to him, and prayed to my father instead. Eventually I stopped doing that too. The dreams are few and very far between. The last one that I recall was probably eight years ago and the only one that involved my mom too. Since then, nothing. My dad never met my husband. When trying to think back to the dreams I did have, I remembered the dream right before I got married. In the dream, my dads corpse was in attendance. That dream was different then all the rest. It was creepy. The others were him alive. I was very young when my dad died and I am sure that, like anyone, I wanted to know that he was still out there somewhere. That he didn't just disappear. The dreams were so vivid and real, especially right after he died, that I was sure they were messages from him. If this is a message from him then I do not want to ignore it, just because everything looks okay right now.
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 After I read this post a few days ago, I fell asleep that night & a lyric kept sounding off in my dream over and over again. "You're never alone." I didn't recognize the song. I woke up & googled the lyric. Looks like there is a Hatebreed and a Lady Antabelum song with those same lyrics in it. I could go on and on for days about strange coincidences that have happened to me through dreams, songs, TV, movies, pictures while associating them with lost loves or deaths in my family but I'd be typing here for hours. Perhaps they are messages from heaven, maybe they are just that, coincidences...but I do take notice as this sort of thing happens to me all the time, so I can relate. Thank you! I feel a little less abnormal now!
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 I don't consider myself deeply religous or deeply spiritual. I have beliefs, but they're not completely center to my life. With that said, during my wife's EA, as I was becoming more and more concerned, a real turning point occurred one night as I was walking our dog. I was upset/unhappy because I could sense the distance and was starting to see that there was more interaction between her and OM than she was telling me. I prayed...asked God for a sign. Asked him to show me a sign if I had something truly to be worried about. At that exact moment, a meteor shot across the sky. Coincidence? Miracle? I don't care to ask myself the question. But...that was the night before I started monitoring her online communications...and it was the following week that d-day occurred. That is amazing! Maybe what I need to do is ask for another sign. I didn't ask for this one. It just happened. Maybe if I actually ask, then I may get the answer I am looking for.
Author screwedovertwenty Posted March 26, 2013 Author Posted March 26, 2013 Just my $.02, I would be paying a lot more attention to this ^^^ than I would any other "signs" that you may be seeing. Believe me, I am paying attention to these things, with all my heart. I am just full of doubt. In real life, I have one friend who I have confided everything with. She is in TX, twenty hours away by car. My parents are gone, and I haven't told and do not plan to tell my brothers or sisters. I know deep down that I am the one that has to make the decision. This is huge though and impacts my entire family. I don't want to make the decision lightly. I was unhappy for a long long time before he ever had his affair. I don't want to forget that.
todreaminblue Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I am not religious. I would consider myself agnostic. I do however believe in the afterlife and have received messages from my parents since their deaths through dreams. I am a huge Rolling Stones fan and I have said that if there is a God, he speaks to me through the Stones. I know it sounds crazy, but let me give one example. A family member did something very bad and was looking at serious prison time. I wanted nothing more than to for him not to have to go to prison. I loved this kid and believed it would only ruin him. As I pulled into the parking lot of the courthouse, the day of his trial, what song comes on the radio? "You can't always get what you want". I just know this was not a coincidence. A few weeks before dday, after a conversation with my youngest about which double album was better (the Beatles White Album or the Stones Exile on Mainstreet), I pulled out my old dvd of the making of Exile. I watched it a few times and then put the cd in my car. It was the cd I that was getting the most play when dday happened. I began obsessing on it. When I realized that the OW was a dancer, I was almost sick. I think that is when I began believing that my dad (from the other side) wanted that whole album to be a message to me. The very first song is "Rocks off" i have prophetic dreams, it is easy for people to not believe me because i am schizo effective i have ocd tendencies and suffer from clinical depression....i have had dreams about conversations that i have...its gets confusing when i remember i dreamt it and i actually remember while talking those conversations going oh crap this person is going to say this and then ill say that....and it happens...i already have had the conversation and i remember it...and people who have died have come to me in my dreams, I am religious, and i hear voices...not friendly ones and they vary in tonal quality.....but there is one voice that has been constant same tone same inflection........that is softer i listen to that voice to get me through........normally it is comforting, sometimes tells me off.......in a nice way.....i do believe in signs....i do believe in prophecy and revelation. dont know about music in delivery ......i know music makes me feel better but its in the lyrics i relate to my life or how i am feeling nothing to do with prophecy..more an expression of what i cannot say...a vehicle for my silence..deb
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