PogoStick Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 To the guys who struggle, on several occasions I've had women fall into my lap simply because I showed up. These are rare occurrences but it's like any statistics, it will happen with a certain regularity. I think the problem is most guys with a negative mindset just sit on the sideline. I noticed it the very first time (amazing) I went out just after my divorce. I wasn't looking that great (overweight and lacking style) and didn't have a strong mindset. Still within 10 minutes a girl approaches me, and after 1 drink asks me back to her place. New Years 2012 was a similar story. A girl I wasn't even paying much attention to begs me to be her kiss at midnight, then wants me to take her home. This was a huge event with a thousand guys to hit on. There have a been a few other similar situations. I'm even one of the nice guys, not alpha, not hot, not oozing confidence, but I'll give a nice smile and talk to a girl. There are lessons to be learned. The women are out there and some are actively looking for YOU. There are many more who are out there waiting for you. Just get in the game and good things will happen. 1
ThaWholigan Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Yes. Putting yourself in the position to be dated by women.
Author PogoStick Posted March 15, 2013 Author Posted March 15, 2013 Yes. Putting yourself in the position to be dated by women. Looks like your signature sums it up nicely.
El Brujo Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 It all depends on the nature of the prize you're trying to win. Not every set of rules works for every guy, the same way not every woman is right for every guy.
ltjg45 Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 I'm more concerned if doing so is actually worth the effort. Putting myself out there and attracting 3-4 women that I don't want isn't that much better than attracting no women. I'm sure any decent-looking female would agree that not all attraction is good attraction. After all, I don't want any women. I'm also concerned when a female no other male wants comes to you just because you are open to be approached. 1
Author PogoStick Posted March 16, 2013 Author Posted March 16, 2013 You're implying these girls are just trash? The first I mentioned lived in a high rise condo downtown, nicely furnished. She had just moved from NY and didn't know anyone, and felt totally out of place at the bar. She invited me to a nice dinner party with her friends a week later. She ended up being too high class for my comfort as a relaxed midwestern guy coming out of divorce. The NYE girl was new to the city too. She turned out to be extremely caring and one of the funnest girls I've known. She was a little wild when drinking and that did turn me off the first couple times I was out with her, but I took the time to get to know her and I'm glad I gave her a chance. I found it refreshing to have a girl go after what she wanted instead of just waiting for a guy to make the move. That's insulting (to her, and me for accepting interest) to suggest a woman is trash just because she's not passive in the dating process. 2
ltjg45 Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 You're implying these girls are just trash? The first I mentioned lived in a high rise condo downtown, nicely furnished. She had just moved from NY and didn't know anyone, and felt totally out of place at the bar. She invited me to a nice dinner party with her friends a week later. She ended up being too high class for my comfort as a relaxed midwestern guy coming out of divorce. The NYE girl was new to the city too. She turned out to be extremely caring and one of the funnest girls I've known. She was a little wild when drinking and that did turn me off the first couple times I was out with her, but I took the time to get to know her and I'm glad I gave her a chance. I found it refreshing to have a girl go after what she wanted instead of just waiting for a guy to make the move. That's insulting (to her, and me for accepting interest) to suggest a woman is trash just because she's not passive in the dating process. No but you also make it sound like they are always gold that hasn't been claimed, which is completely false. Attracting obese females is, frankly, worse than getting no attraction at all. All that will do is kill what little self-esteem I have left. "Oh lovely, I go out and try to change myself for the better and the only females I attract is the kind of females I didn't want to begin with. I can see I will have a lot of personal success in the dating game." *sarcasm switch is now "Off"* If that was the case, I wouldn't be concerned about the attention that I may get if I were to do this. Are you telling me these are the only 2 women that actually went to you during that time frame or was those 2 the best one out of the selection you had available? Because if those was the only 2 women that came to you at that time, I dare say you got pretty lucky.
jma500 Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 To the guys who struggle, on several occasions I've had women fall into my lap simply because I showed up. These are rare occurrences but it's like any statistics, it will happen with a certain regularity. I think the problem is most guys with a negative mindset just sit on the sideline. I noticed it the very first time (amazing) I went out just after my divorce. I wasn't looking that great (overweight and lacking style) and didn't have a strong mindset. Still within 10 minutes a girl approaches me, and after 1 drink asks me back to her place. New Years 2012 was a similar story. A girl I wasn't even paying much attention to begs me to be her kiss at midnight, then wants me to take her home. This was a huge event with a thousand guys to hit on. There have a been a few other similar situations. I'm even one of the nice guys, not alpha, not hot, not oozing confidence, but I'll give a nice smile and talk to a girl. There are lessons to be learned. The women are out there and some are actively looking for YOU. There are many more who are out there waiting for you. Just get in the game and good things will happen. I like your post. I have no doubt the women are out there but looking for me or someone like me is where i have my doubts. But then i am almost always doubting myself so who knows?
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 To the guys who struggle, on several occasions I've had women fall into my lap simply because I showed up. These are rare occurrences but it's like any statistics, it will happen with a certain regularity. I think the problem is most guys with a negative mindset just sit on the sideline. I noticed it the very first time (amazing) I went out just after my divorce. I wasn't looking that great (overweight and lacking style) and didn't have a strong mindset. Still within 10 minutes a girl approaches me, and after 1 drink asks me back to her place. New Years 2012 was a similar story. A girl I wasn't even paying much attention to begs me to be her kiss at midnight, then wants me to take her home. This was a huge event with a thousand guys to hit on. There have a been a few other similar situations. I'm even one of the nice guys, not alpha, not hot, not oozing confidence, but I'll give a nice smile and talk to a girl. There are lessons to be learned. The women are out there and some are actively looking for YOU. There are many more who are out there waiting for you. Just get in the game and good things will happen. I'll be honest dude. I think this is a bad post that may actually discourage some guys. You're saying "play to win," but what really happened is that you had girls hit on you and THEY did all the work. All you did, basically, was not mess it up. A better story would be something like this: "I went out, approached, and got blown out like crazy. It bothered me, but I didn't let it get to me...and I kept on going. Finally, I met a very attractive girl that liked me. I won her over and pulled her home." Now THAT is a story about "playing to win." 2
jma500 Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 I'll be honest dude. I think this is a bad post that may actually discourage some guys. You're saying "play to win," but what really happened is that you had girls hit on you and THEY did all the work. All you did, basically, was not mess it up. A better story would be something like this: "I went out, approached, and got blown out like crazy. It bothered me, but I didn't let it get to me...and I kept on going. Finally, I met a very attractive girl that liked me. I won her over and pulled her home." Now THAT is a story about "playing to win." I still like the original post but i like yours as well. Interesting take.
Author PogoStick Posted March 16, 2013 Author Posted March 16, 2013 Yes there have been others, there has been the obese girl grinding on my thigh who I simply turned down. I met the girl I was with for 2 years in college in a similar way. She approached my friend to ask about me. He just walked her straight to me on the dance floor, gave me her hand and just walked away without a word. She wasn't trash, a cute petite asian girl who took a month or two to crack. Top 3 on my best sex list (anyone else rank their sex?). I'm pointing out that good things will happen simply by showing up. I didn't have to approach anyone and I think that's an encouraging story. Think of it like a salesman. 90% comes from you working it, but sometimes the freebie comes in with a wad of cash and doesn't need any convincing at all. What happens if you decided to call in sick that day?
Author PogoStick Posted March 16, 2013 Author Posted March 16, 2013 Ok I could have worded the title slightly different. I was going off the lottery slogans, something like: you can't win if you don't play. 1
Esoteric Elf Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 The women are out there and some are actively looking for YOU. There are many more who are out there waiting for you. I was about to laugh out loud, but then I realized I was the butt of the joke, so I thought it better to keep silent.
somedude81 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 This thread is completely misnamed. It should be, "Guys you have to show up to get lucky." Lets face it Pogo, you didn't do anything to win those women over.
somedude81 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 The true key to success (courtesy of my son)... http://www.loveshack.org/forums/members/213174-monicaelise/albums/855-monica/4930-how-pick-up-chicks/ Fail. That puts unnecessary strain on your back. You have to bend at the knees. 2
Esoteric Elf Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 But only when you're nearing your one rep max. A 400 lbs. chick?
fortyninethousand322 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 To the guys who struggle, on several occasions I've had women fall into my lap simply because I showed up. These are rare occurrences but it's like any statistics, it will happen with a certain regularity. I think the problem is most guys with a negative mindset just sit on the sideline. I noticed it the very first time (amazing) I went out just after my divorce. I wasn't looking that great (overweight and lacking style) and didn't have a strong mindset. Still within 10 minutes a girl approaches me, and after 1 drink asks me back to her place. New Years 2012 was a similar story. A girl I wasn't even paying much attention to begs me to be her kiss at midnight, then wants me to take her home. This was a huge event with a thousand guys to hit on. There have a been a few other similar situations. I'm even one of the nice guys, not alpha, not hot, not oozing confidence, but I'll give a nice smile and talk to a girl. There are lessons to be learned. The women are out there and some are actively looking for YOU. There are many more who are out there waiting for you. Just get in the game and good things will happen. Congratulations? Or something... Look, I've been around in the world. I have friends. I was in college for 5 years. Heck, I was on a co-ed basketball team with single women on it. Still, absolutely nothing happened. Nothing fell into my lap, nothing magically occurred. There are some men women just aren't into. 1
Necris Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 To the guys who struggle, on several occasions I've had women fall into my lap simply because I showed up. These are rare occurrences but it's like any statistics, it will happen with a certain regularity. I think the problem is most guys with a negative mindset just sit on the sideline. I noticed it the very first time (amazing) I went out just after my divorce. I wasn't looking that great (overweight and lacking style) and didn't have a strong mindset. Still within 10 minutes a girl approaches me, and after 1 drink asks me back to her place. New Years 2012 was a similar story. A girl I wasn't even paying much attention to begs me to be her kiss at midnight, then wants me to take her home. This was a huge event with a thousand guys to hit on. There have a been a few other similar situations. I'm even one of the nice guys, not alpha, not hot, not oozing confidence, but I'll give a nice smile and talk to a girl. There are lessons to be learned. The women are out there and some are actively looking for YOU. There are many more who are out there waiting for you. Just get in the game and good things will happen. Your experiences are certainly not my experiences by a long-shot now its not that I don't believe you since I actually personally know guys who don't even have to approach women and just let women come to them, but come on now, no woman is going to just randomly approach me and ask me to go to her place, that's ridiculous thinking for most guys. Also its not like I just sit in a corner quiet somewhere I have actually approached women and regularly as well for the only result to be pure rejection (my rejection rate is actually pure, 100% actually which is pretty bad). I'm also a friendly, nice guy and this hasn't helped me at all. Fortunately I have come to the realization this just isn't really all that important. Sure I'd love to have a relationship with a woman one day, and hopefully with the right woman as well, but really I shouldn't even concern myself with women and just do something else, instead of wasting time and money on frivolous pursuits, I could use my energy for something else that will benefit me greatly.
Author PogoStick Posted March 17, 2013 Author Posted March 17, 2013 Then you're saying I'm just an attractive guy which feels nice buy my ego disagrees. It also makes me feel sad for the guys who are finding another way to be self-defeating.
Author PogoStick Posted March 17, 2013 Author Posted March 17, 2013 I was about to laugh out loud, but then I realized I was the butt of the joke, so I thought it better to keep silent. Not sure what you mean. Judging by your gif you do just fine with women.
Truthsayer Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Ok I could have worded the title slightly different. I was going off the lottery slogans, something like: you can't win if you don't play. Technically you did kind of win without playing. Someone just walked up and handed you a ticket. 1
Apolodor Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 To the guys who struggle, on several occasions I've had women fall into my lap simply because I showed up. These are rare occurrences but it's like any statistics, it will happen with a certain regularity. I think the problem is most guys with a negative mindset just sit on the sideline. I noticed it the very first time (amazing) I went out just after my divorce. I wasn't looking that great (overweight and lacking style) and didn't have a strong mindset. Still within 10 minutes a girl approaches me, and after 1 drink asks me back to her place. New Years 2012 was a similar story. A girl I wasn't even paying much attention to begs me to be her kiss at midnight, then wants me to take her home. This was a huge event with a thousand guys to hit on. There have a been a few other similar situations. I'm even one of the nice guys, not alpha, not hot, not oozing confidence, but I'll give a nice smile and talk to a girl. There are lessons to be learned. The women are out there and some are actively looking for YOU. There are many more who are out there waiting for you. Just get in the game and good things will happen. Man, your post is really annoying..... Did it occur to you that you might be just a lucky guy?? Women begging you to kiss them?! That never happened to me. Other women asking you to their place after ONE drink?! I have yet to experience that level of attention..... I don't dispute the truth of what you are saying, but your post is an insult to the thousands of nice guys out there who put themselves on the line only to be rejected by cold & insensitive women.
NeoGen85 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 THIS DUDE IS MAGIC! Man. You can still show up with a good-look, interesting conversation, the moves on the dance floor, and a great personality still walk way with nothing. There are some women who will find you "unique" but you still might not be their type. I will admit that I don't go out clubbing or to the bars like I use to. My rule is that I do not pick up women at those locations. Because of that there have been times where I was lucky(me not doing anything). I took my intern out to show him downtown Charleston, SC. We were talking about our preferred beers when I noticed someone left a bottle of Becks next to me. I made a comment out loud saying how that @#$% is gross. It belonged to an attractive woman who quickly came to defend her selection. All we did is have chit-chat. Even after I got up and left she insisted on following me around. Nothing like that ever happens to me. She obviously was putting in all the work. That was the easiest it's been for me. Too bad we had nothing in common.
StanMusial Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 THIS DUDE IS MAGIC! Man. You can still show up with a good-look, interesting conversation, the moves on the dance floor, and a great personality still walk way with nothing. There are some women who will find you "unique" but you still might not be their type. I will admit that I don't go out clubbing or to the bars like I use to. My rule is that I do not pick up women at those locations. Because of that there have been times where I was lucky(me not doing anything). I took my intern out to show him downtown Charleston, SC. We were talking about our preferred beers when I noticed someone left a bottle of Becks next to me. I made a comment out loud saying how that @#$% is gross. It belonged to an attractive woman who quickly came to defend her selection. All we did is have chit-chat. Even after I got up and left she insisted on following me around. Nothing like that ever happens to me. She obviously was putting in all the work. That was the easiest it's been for me. Too bad we had nothing in common. Good example of how just being there can lead to interaction that could lead to who knows what. Most likely nothing but your chances are better than sitting on the couch watching TV. Charleston is a nice little town, I've been there a few times. Now I'm getting hungry for some shrimp 'n grits.
somedude81 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Then you're saying I'm just an attractive guy which feels nice buy my ego disagrees. It also makes me feel sad for the guys who are finding another way to be self-defeating. Dude, you got lucky. You were in the right place at the right time and didn't have to do anything. What is so hard to understand about that? 1
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