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The main medical cause of ED is diabetes. The girl just has to look for the risk factors: does he exercise? poor diet? family history?

 

And even if he has it, if it's under control, he's fine.

 

Most other things that older men take meds for won't cause that.

 

Don't worry...I'm really not on an anti-40-50+ man roll...

 

Everyone gets older and we all deal with it. What I don't want young women to forget is her own future.

 

If she has taken all of that into account and they still go forward, then fine. At least they are going into things with their eyes open.

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Don't worry...I'm really not on an anti-40-50+ man roll...

 

Everyone gets older and we all deal with it. What I don't want young women to forget is her own future.

 

If she has taken all of that into account and they still go forward, then fine. At least they are going into things with their eyes open.

 

Fair enough.

 

I wasn't suspicious that you were. I was just responding to your comment. :p

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Very common . Alot of younger guys only want to shove their peepee in a chick

Older guy enjoy conversation and companionship with a women.

 

lots of women like older men becuase they have more to talk about

Places they been or lived , past job experiences, more diverse in music

Movies .

 

My girl likes it i can name songs we hear in grocery stored

Or out shopping. Just the other day we heard a song.

 

I say oh this is the

psychedelic furs " ghost in you " probably from around 1986

 

then she googles it later to see if i was right.

 

I think often its just real world knowledge that older men

Have that younger women find attractive.

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However, this age group can be a challenge. Many are divorced -- often newly so. They are typically coming off of a relationship that started when they were in high school or college. So what do they want to do now? Play the field. Have a lot of sex. Party. Most want nothing to do with commitment, at least in the short term. Many were hurt financially due to the divorce, and as a result are bitter. They may not have extraneous money to travel or go out and do things due to the divorce. The majority will have at least one or two small children.

 

I would like to expound upon this point a little bit. There's a lot of fact here, but its more complex than that.

 

For me, I have no interest in partying, playing the field or lots of sex...especially partying. It's funny, because I thought when my marriage was over that I would go on some huge tear and cash in on of the opportunities that were always present during the marriage. Bit the truth is, I just didn't have the emotional energy to even try. The first two years after my W moved out....I just lived a largely solitary, quiet life. I could have gone on a tear, but strangely, I just didn't want to.

 

The same thing with dating. I would go out and then just very quickly recoil. And sex is sex, but at the same time, I'm not 18, so I don't live and die for it.

 

In reality, the reason its difficult to have a relationship with a divorced guy, especially one with kids, is that many don't need another relationship. It's common now for parents to have some sort of joint custody, and to that end, sort of still maintain a relationship with their exes. In my case, I still live with my ex for a couple weekends a month. And we work together as partners in raising our kids. So, our married relationship is over, but our functional partnering/friendship is still active. We do some activities together, talk everyday (to some degree). That takes a lot of the edge off when it comes to wanting to have another woman around....an additional relationship becomes superfluous.

 

Furthermore, whatever woman we meet is not the mother of our children, so its a weird sort of lesser magnitude kind of relationship. I'm sure that as time passes and life moves on, that changes.

 

Then, I can speak to the notion that divorced men just don't want a rlationship. It's not that I dont want companionship, its that I don't want a bunch of expectations, and rules, and to have to make somebody else happy all the time. I got worn out on that in my marriage, and now, I'm just relieved to not have every waking minute consumed by another person's wants, needs, edicts, disappointment, interrogation, dissatisfaction, problems, etc. If the marriage fell apart, clearly there were problems, and most men are not eager to jump back into that boat. Better to be alone. And maybe there is some bitterness, but its more likely a very low tolerance for crap. I'm not angry as I go through the day....but I have a really low threshhold for BS. Had it, lived it, a lot of its gone, and I'm not anxious to put a bunch more in my life.

 

You also have to factor in the kids. Not from the obvious perspective of them as consumers of time and resources, but in terms of what that relationship means. For me, I love my kids and have great relationships with all of them. I feel fulfilled enough by those relationships that I don't feel lonely or lost. I will always have my kids, and I will have a purpose beyond myself everyday. A new girl....that can be exciting, fun and interesting, but a new girl is just another person. The kids are the kids. They are always going to be ranked ahead of the girl. If a girl wants to be totally prioritized, dating a guy with kids is not a great way to achieve that.

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I tend to gravitate towards older men; always have. In my younger years, I had no explanation. Hell, I was 19 dating a 42 year old at one point. It was short-lived, but fun & exciting at the time. Being so young, it was less acceptable than it would be at the age I am now (29) to be with someone (about) 20 years older than myself. I am still attracted to men in their 40's and even 50's. I am going through a separation now, so I am not dating and haven't even really thought about other men during the duration of my marriage, but now I am revisiting the same feelings and have learned my attraction patterns haven't changed. (My soon-to-be ex husband is 16 years older than me. Marriage ending has no bearing on age difference, it's completely different circumstances.) I don't know if I would consider myself an "old soul", but I do appreciate things from a different generation and seem to get on easily with people (not just men) from an earlier time period than my generation (like music, for example). Most of my friends are in their late 30's to early 50's. I don't think I would have it any other way. The few friends I have left near my age are typically like me, and the ones I lost along the way are very different from me. I just have an easier time socially with older people. So this naturally includes men. I am sure once this separation moves into divorce, I will end up dating older men and probably end up in a long-term relationship, or possibly a marriage with one.

 

I have dated men closer to my age years ago, and it was always a bad experience for various reasons. One was 2 years older, another was 3 years younger, and others in between that. It's just, as they say, not my cup of tea ;)

 

I don't see anything wrong with this. I know others feel differently. I don't let social norms get in the way of what makes me happy (when it comes to my dating patterns or choice of partner, it's really nobody's business). I don't care or mind what others have to say about it. I will gladly listen to their stance if they feel strongly about sharing their thoughts with me regarding it, but I know what makes me truly happy and feels right for me, so I go for it. I guess it's just how I was built! So, take or leave it, this is me :cool:

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Wow. This post smells of an old dude trying to pat himself on the back while putting down young men. Sad.

Very common . Alot of younger guys only want to shove their peepee in a chick

Older guy enjoy conversation and companionship with a women.

Plenty of young guys want real convos and companionship. Its not like dudes dont want sex when they get older. Are you missing the threads women in their 30s and 40s start on this forum? Its not like they arent running into guys who want to hit and quit.

 

lots of women like older men becuase they have more to talk about

Places they been or lived , past job experiences, more diverse in music

Movies .

Um...guys in their 20s have lived quite a bit too ya know. Youd be surprised by the things some of my friends and I have done. You dont need to be 40 to have lived some. And hate to burst your bubble, but most women date guys around their own age...especially women in their 20s.

My girl likes it i can name songs we hear in grocery stored

Or out shopping. Just the other day we heard a song.

Since when does age make someones taste in music more varied? Its the digital age dude...and many people know listen to a wide variety of music. I listen to stuff older than my parents at times. Seems like you are trying to project your relationship onto every other situation.

 

I say oh this is the

psychedelic furs " ghost in you " probably from around 1986

Oh giiiime a break:rolleyes: You think you are cool because you can name 80s songs? Im 26 and I listen to Duran Duran, Cyndi Lauper, Suicidal Tendencies, and other 80s stuff. Hell I listen to stuff way older than that, like Elvis, or Buddy Holly.

 

then she googles it later to see if i was right.
Shame she doesnt know her music. Plenty of young girls I know do know their stuff.

I think often its just real world knowledge that older men

Have that younger women find attractive.

lolol...are you done giving yourself a medal for being aged?:laugh:
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The positive thing about a 20 something (man or woman) dating someone much older is that the person has a track record. If they are going to develop major issues with weight, substances, violence, career, credit, etc it usually is apparent by the time they hit their mid 30's. They also have an observable relationship track record.
I have 3 teenaged nieces, and whenever the topic of marriage comes up I always tell them to not even think about marrying a man who's under 30 (and preferably 35) because you have no idea how he's going to turn out.

 

To the OP: At 26, a 13-16 year age gap is huge. Why not look for someone in his early 30s? That's pretty much an ideal gap at your age.

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Very common . Alot of younger guys only want to shove their peepee in a chick

Older guy enjoy conversation and companionship with a women.

 

lots of women like older men becuase they have more to talk about

Places they been or lived , past job experiences, more diverse in music

Movies .

 

My girl likes it i can name songs we hear in grocery stored

Or out shopping. Just the other day we heard a song.

 

I say oh this is the

psychedelic furs " ghost in you " probably from around 1986

 

then she googles it later to see if i was right.

 

I think often its just real world knowledge that older men

Have that younger women find attractive.

 

I can't speak for everyone but I really didn't come into my own as a man until my early thirties. I'm just more comfortable in my own skin and I think earlier experiences dating and just in life in general helped me with that.

 

I went to a dance club a few years ago, I think I was 32 or 33 at the time. It was early and nobody was drunk yet and I dragged my date out on the nearly empty dance floor and started dancing. When she and her friend walked off I looked up and there was a ring of girls around us just staring at me and one of them asked me to dance. They all looked about 19 or 20. At the edge of the dance floor you could see the sheepish and awkward guys looking around desperately. 10 years earlier that probably would've been me. :cool:

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Very common . Alot of younger guys only want to shove their peepee in a chick

Older guy enjoy conversation and companionship with a women.

 

lots of women like older men becuase they have more to talk about

Places they been or lived , past job experiences, more diverse in music

Movies .

 

My girl likes it i can name songs we hear in grocery stored

Or out shopping. Just the other day we heard a song.

 

I say oh this is the

psychedelic furs " ghost in you " probably from around 1986

 

then she googles it later to see if i was right.

 

I think often its just real world knowledge that older men

Have that younger women find attractive.

 

well, women don't have to f*ck him to get that... they just need hang out in places where older men go and get involved in activities that involve a diverse group of people so that they can learn from them.

 

Then she can save her youth for someone she can grow older with comfortably... Not offer it to someone who simply sees her youth as a commodity to be used up and spent to feed his ego and help him deal with his own fears of aging.

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Wow. This post smells of an old dude trying to pat himself on the back while putting down young men. Sad.Plenty of young guys want real convos and companionship. Its not like dudes dont want sex when they get older. Are you missing the threads women in their 30s and 40s start on this forum? Its not like they arent running into guys who want to hit and quit.

 

Um...guys in their 20s have lived quite a bit too ya know. Youd be surprised by the things some of my friends and I have done. You dont need to be 40 to have lived some. And hate to burst your bubble, but most women date guys around their own age...especially women in their 20s.

Since when does age make someones taste in music more varied? Its the digital age dude...and many people know listen to a wide variety of music. I listen to stuff older than my parents at times. Seems like you are trying to project your relationship onto every other situation.

 

Oh giiiime a break:rolleyes: You think you are cool because you can name 80s songs? Im 26 and I listen to Duran Duran, Cyndi Lauper, Suicidal Tendencies, and other 80s stuff. Hell I listen to stuff way older than that, like Elvis, or Buddy Holly.

 

Shame she doesnt know her music. Plenty of young girls I know do know their stuff.

lolol...are you done giving yourself a medal for being aged?:laugh:

 

Its the fact my girl 26 and im 36 can ask my anything

Chances are ive been there and done it. Been to alaska hawaii

All through the u.s . Met sylvester stallone, brad pitt and channing

Tatum when he was here in tampa filming magic mike.

 

Ive been through alot at 36 . While my girlfriend told me

She likes talking and conversing with me becuase she feels

Were on the same level. Her last boyfriends just sat around

Played video games, sat on the computer , and bored her to death.

Mean while were always broke and mooching money off mom

And dad.

 

no im not patting myself on the back she persued me..

She is attracted to older mens minds. She's very smart

And enjoys older men. Wasnt me chasing her she persued me.

 

Older men are not clingy obsessive stalkerish like some younger

Guys. Older men usually dont sweat the small stuff and dont worry

About stuff like younger guys do. Most older guys are done with

Games and the runaround we know how to communicate

As well as give women freedom to enjoy their own lives and

Not smoother them to much.

 

I dont even have to explain why younger women like older men

All the women who posted about it on the thread already did.

 

If younger guys are jealous thats their problem not mine

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well, women don't have to f*ck him to get that... they just need hang out in places where older men go and get involved in activities that involve a diverse group of people so that they can learn from them.

 

Then she can save her youth for someone she can grow older with comfortably... Not offer it to someone who simply sees her youth as a commodity to be used up and spent to feed his ego and help him deal with his own fears of aging.

 

8 to 10 yrs is pretty common. A women in her mid 20s is long past youth.

Many women click with older men. Not for money or his house.

Just becuase some like luagh lines and forehead wrinkles.

 

Dont get upset if young. This just means enjoy your 20s

When your 28 30 and matured intellectually financially independent

You can nab youself a 22 24 yr old thats very mature for her age.

 

The key is the type of women. Young party chicks want party guys.

Girls that donk drink smoke or party go for older guys. Being

Older ones already been through it.

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Its the fact my girl 26 and im 36 can ask my anything

Chances are ive been there and done it. Been to alaska hawaii

All through the u.s . Met sylvester stallone, brad pitt and channing

Tatum when he was here in tampa filming magic mike.

 

Ive been through alot at 36 . While my girlfriend told me

She likes talking and conversing with me becuase she feels

Were on the same level. Her last boyfriends just sat around

Played video games, sat on the computer , and bored her to death.

Mean while were always broke and mooching money off mom

And dad.

 

no im not patting myself on the back she persued me..

She is attracted to older mens minds. She's very smart

And enjoys older men. Wasnt me chasing her she persued me.

 

Older men are not clingy obsessive stalkerish like some younger

Guys. Older men usually dont sweat the small stuff and dont worry

About stuff like younger guys do. Most older guys are done with

Games and the runaround we know how to communicate

As well as give women freedom to enjoy their own lives and

Not smoother them to much.

 

I dont even have to explain why younger women like older men

All the women who posted about it on the thread already did.

 

If younger guys are jealous thats their problem not mine

What I wanna know is this....why do older dudes always have to puff their chests online about how much better they are than younger guys? Why the insecurity and the need to talk big about yourselves? I never see older women run into threads talking about how much better they are than younger girls.

 

Get over yourself dude. You are but one experience that is but a minority of the relationships out there. Your girlfriend doesnt speak for most women in their 20s. No matter what you say, at the end of the day, most women date guys around their age. So much for how awesome being much older is.

 

Theres nothing to be jealous of, because Ive never ever had to compete with older guys. And girls Ive met have largely been turned off by guys over 30. So keep telling yourself that us younger guys care about the women you can get. You never have really been competition for us. So calm down.

 

The problem with your last post is that you projected the opinions of one singular woman (your gf) onto all women...and then made blanket statements regarding young men.

 

PS - Lmao @ "clingy obsessive stalkerish". What world are you living in? The primary complaint young women have with young men is that we dont commit....but now youre saying the bulk of us are clingy and obsessive? Wow.

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I don't get the fight on this. Yes, there are some women who are attracted to older men and their experience and mindset and there are women who are not. I've seen both types. Personally, I understand the attraction to older men's maturity, they also put you on pedestal which is good. But the problem is they make me feel...OLD. I would hate to be with someone who has been there and done that, they'd make me feel like I lost 10 years of my life or something.

 

In the case of OP, she has to be real with herself. 3 of her past relationships with these older men ended...Why? And why does she think men her own age she is attracted to are not attracted to her? Perhaps for her it's a better idea to make herself more attractive to the opposite sex to land the man she really wants rather than go for the easy choice...a much older man.

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I don't get the fight on this. Yes, there are some women who are attracted to older men and their experience and mindset and there are women who are not. I've seen both types. Personally, I understand the attraction to older men's maturity, they also put you on pedestal which is good. But the problem is they make me feel...OLD. I would hate to be with someone who has been there and done that, they'd make me feel like I lost 10 years of my life or something.

 

This is the way I feel about the older men hitting on me. I want a guy around my own age - if I date at all - and don't think that's a bad thing to want.

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What I wanna know is this....why do older dudes always have to puff their chests online about how much better they are than younger guys? Why the insecurity and the need to talk big about yourselves? I never see older women run into threads talking about how much better they are than younger girls.

 

Get over yourself dude. You are but one experience that is but a minority of the relationships out there. Your girlfriend doesnt speak for most women in their 20s. No matter what you say, at the end of the day, most women date guys around

their age. So much for how awesome being much older is.

 

Theres nothing to be jealous of, because Ive never ever had to compete with older guys. And girls Ive met have largely been turned off by guys over 30. So keep telling yourself that us younger guys care about the women you can get. You never have really been competition for us. So calm down.

 

The problem with your last post is that you projected the opinions of one singular woman (your gf) onto all women...and then made blanket statements regarding young men.

 

PS - Lmao @ "clingy obsessive stalkerish". What world are you living in? The primary complaint young women have with young men is that we dont commit....but now youre saying the bulk of us are clingy and obsessive? Wow.

 

Not competition?

House paid for , own business , lol

 

You're right its not even a competition. Some men like older men some like younger.

 

Simple as that.

 

No need to be a hater.

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Thanks, guys, I appreciate all of your perspectives. I guess I'd just prefer someone my age as that would be easier and more "natural."

 

I am mature for my age, I suppose, but I know guys and girls who are also mature.

 

 

PinkSapphire, the funny thing about maturity is that most people tend to think they are above average in it, until they get older and see how far they actually had to grow.

 

I dated older guys when I was younger. Older guys took me to fancy places. Older guys were in awe of me because I was younger. They worked to impress me. All I had to do was just be. I have a few "daddy" issues. But as I got older, those relationships ultimately didn't really work. I realized that relationships with guys my own age where actually more fulfilling. I gave them more of a chance. Guys my own age challeneged me in ways older men didn't. Guys my own age might not have had the financial resources yet but they required me to be more of a complete person than an older man did. Guys my own age created the space for us to have a relationship to grow together in. Not someone that's already been there and done that.

 

I'm not going to tell you not to date older men. But I was a lot like you where I thought I was mature for my age. No matter how mature for your age you are, you are never fully a match for a 35+ year old man, at your age. As I actually grew and became mature, I discovered that I was having more mature relationships with men closer to my own age than I ever had with the older men I dated.

 

I would also be careful of being a younger woman dating older men. There are A LOT of older men out there that judge women based on their age. They might not judge their own age, but they certainly judge women on theirs. If you are going to date older men, ask yourself if he would still be dating you if you were equal to his age instead of younger. Usually when I asked myself this question, I was given better insight to exactly what kind of guy I was dating.

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What I wanna know is this....why do older dudes always have to puff their chests online about how much better they are than younger guys? Why the insecurity and the need to talk big about yourselves? I never see older women run into threads talking about how much better they are than younger girls.

 

Get over yourself dude. You are but one experience that is but a minority of the relationships out there. Your girlfriend doesnt speak for most women in their 20s. No matter what you say, at the end of the day, most women date guys around their age. So much for how awesome being much older is.

 

Theres nothing to be jealous of, because Ive never ever had to compete with older guys. And girls Ive met have largely been turned off by guys over 30. So keep telling yourself that us younger guys care about the women you can get. You never have really been competition for us. So calm down.

 

The problem with your last post is that you projected the opinions of one singular woman (your gf) onto all women...and then made blanket statements regarding young men.

 

PS - Lmao @ "clingy obsessive stalkerish". What world are you living in? The primary complaint young women have with young men is that we dont commit....but now youre saying the bulk of us are clingy and obsessive? Wow.

 

Kaylan, I compare myself at 37 to myself through my 20's. I don't put anyone down. I agree with Charlie for the most part as I'm in a similar situation.

 

I think the difference is the more mature and relationship-minded girls might actually go for a guy in his 30's. My gf is 26 and she's been a hair stylist since she was 19 and a home-owner since 22 and runs her own salon since 24. She had a brief engagement to a dirt bag that was leeching off her so she at the least knows what she DOESN'T want. She rarely goes to bars and clubs if ever. I will admit she is atypical.

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Agreed.

 

Why worry about what might happen. I can tell you life is full of surprises guys your age might even disappoint you a bit.

 

Hate to tell you this Robman, but even older guys are full of disappointments.

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It's true that I've observed some guys turning themselves upside down to get a much younger woman regardless of her issues or compatibility because his need for external validation so ridiculously trumps everything else. I'd argue, that is the case for most men who do this. I saw a picture of George Clooney with his date at the Academy Awards and he just looked ridiculous. He might as well have her binky on his key ring just for emergencies... (a 'binky' is a pacifier). This characteristic all on its own makes them bad bets for anything long term... because the minute a younger, hotter version comes along, you'll be left in the dust.

 

OMG I thought the same thing about George Clooney! He looked like he was there with his daughter. I thought I was the only one that recongnized this because alot of women love GC. I really don't get the attraction to him personally though. He also isn't that great of an actor.

 

I really don't get why women go after men that make it obvious that he attaches more worth to her age and value than his own.

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I have noticed the same. Still, I would gladly date someone in her 30s if she fit my criteria. I do want kids though so she can't be too old for that (or unwilling). I just don't encounter women near my age (37) that are single or childless. I went two years without going on a date. So eff that I will date younger.

 

I think there are many single and childless 37 year olds but you probably don't pay too much attention to them. Men have this belief that they are hold more worth in the world than women. Your so focused on the age of your partner and her ability to have children, you don't even stop to think about the fact that older fathers aren't exactly ideal candiate for fatherhood either.

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Very common . Alot of younger guys only want to shove their peepee in a chick

Older guy enjoy conversation and companionship with a women.

 

lots of women like older men becuase they have more to talk about

Places they been or lived , past job experiences, more diverse in music

Movies .

 

Charlie, a lot of older guys only want to shove their "peepee in a chick" (By the way, the humor and irony in talking about your maturity while uttering that phrase is not lost on me.)

 

Alot of older men don't always have stunning conversation. We really need to get away from this idea that older men are automatically better for being older. I've seen mean older men, sexist older men, bitter older men...all kinds of older men. I've seen nice older men, intelligent older men, kind older men... and I've seen the same in younger men too. So the idea that older men are somehow these greatly evolved creatures...you know except for the fact that they can't respect women their own age.. is bull.

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I think there are many single and childless 37 year olds but you probably don't pay too much attention to them. Men have this belief that they are hold more worth in the world than women. Your so focused on the age of your partner and her ability to have children, you don't even stop to think about the fact that older fathers aren't exactly ideal candiate for fatherhood either.

 

Perhaps worldwide there are many. I don't live in a major city though and I really and honestly do not meet many women 30+ who are single and/or childless. It is what it is. It's not like I'm out here chasing college chicks around and trying to pull every pretty young thing I see - frankly, I wouldn't have most of them. As far as being a father goes, if I'm lucky enough to get to that stage I'll do the best I can like mine did.

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8 to 10 yrs is pretty common. A women in her mid 20s is long past youth.

Many women click with older men. Not for money or his house.

Just becuase some like luagh lines and forehead wrinkles.

 

Dont get upset if young. This just means enjoy your 20s

When your 28 30 and matured intellectually financially independent

You can nab youself a 22 24 yr old thats very mature for her age.

 

The key is the type of women. Young party chicks want party guys.

Girls that donk drink smoke or party go for older guys. Being

Older ones already been through it.

 

No. 8 to 10 years is not common... but lots of guys would like to convince everyone it is.

 

You can't get a woman your own age because you were messing around in your 20's, and now you have to fish from the bottom of the maturity barrel looking for someone who can't see past your BS.

 

As long as you can tell your friends and folks here you are with someone a lot younger, you feel like a 'success'... congrats!

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No. 8 to 10 years is not common... but lots of guys would like to convince everyone it is.

 

You can't get a woman your own age because you were messing around in your 20's, and now you have to fish from the bottom of the maturity barrel looking for someone who can't see past your BS.

 

As long as you can tell your friends and folks here you are with someone a lot younger, you feel like a 'success'... congrats!

 

I was with my exwife from age 23 to 34. No fishing from

The bottom of the barrels. My girl is top quality knows

What she wants in life

Age is a number wouldn't matter if she was 27 37 or 47

Nether one us smoke or drink or do the bar scene.

 

Were a match regardless of age.

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I was with my exwife from age 23 to 34. No fishing from

The bottom of the barrels. My girl is top quality knows

What she wants in life

Age is a number wouldn't matter if she was 27 37 or 47

Nether one us smoke or drink or do the bar scene.

 

Were a match regardless of age.

 

I never married but other than that I feel the same way. I had gf's on and off throughout my 20's and for whatever reason it didn't work out. A lot of it had to do with traveling for my job, not because I was dicking around. Let's just say I'm glad I don't have an ex-wife. I've heard enough of those horror stories.

 

It's not like you're some slouch, bald with a beer gut and old and sh*tty. And neither am I. Frankly if I was I wouldn't necessarily want to be out and about looking like some old skeezer with a trophy gf.

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