Got it Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Can you clear up a misunderstanding by weighing in? Have you heard this term before? And if you have what does it mean?
Author Got it Posted March 14, 2013 Author Posted March 14, 2013 Thank you. Has anyone heard this definition? a villain A person who influences and manipulates the minds of his victims. I used the term and didn't realize that it may have a different definition to it that may be seen as insulting. I am trying to figure out if I insulted someone without intending to.
TheOW Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Can you clear up a misunderstanding by weighing in? Have you heard this term before? And if you have what does it mean? It means your crazy/mental
Author Got it Posted March 14, 2013 Author Posted March 14, 2013 TheOW -where did you hear that definition? I am curious. My understanding of it was in the same vein as Bent as I know on infidelity/affair forums it is used as a BS/WS. I have never heard it in another way and so this was news to me.
TheOW Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 TheOW -where did you hear that definition? I am curious. My understanding of it was in the same vein as Bent as I know on infidelity/affair forums it is used as a BS/WS. I have never heard it in another way and so this was news to me. In the uk it means ur "as mad as a hatter" meaning ur insane Mad as a hatter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
spice4life Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 A madhatter in history is someone who is disturbed and confused due to mercury poisoning. In Batman his villian: " The Mad Hatter is depicted as a scientist who invents and uses technological*mind-controlling devices to influence and manipulate the minds of his victims, believing that 'the mind is the weakest part of a person'. " Hmm...interesting. Why do you ask? 1
TheOW Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 The hatter in Alice in Wonderland is referred to as the "mad hatter" because he was insane 6
Author Got it Posted March 14, 2013 Author Posted March 14, 2013 I asked someone if they were a madhatter and apparently that got my hands slapped and I was very surprised. I didn't realize it had another meaning. I never thought too hard about it (as I can see clearly on literally Mad Hatter could have other meanings. Frankly I thought maybe it tied to the character in Alice in Wonderland) and knew it was a common term in infidelity/affair boards for someone that has been on both sides. I have used it before in describing dMM and never was questioned so didn't think twice. Anyway, my apologies to Pierre and anyone that may have taken offense to it. Not my intention! I assumed and we all know what assuming does.
TheOW Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I asked someone if they were a madhatter and apparently that got my hands slapped and I was very surprised. I didn't realize it had another meaning. I never thought too hard about it (as I can see clearly on literally Mad Hatter could have other meanings. Frankly I thought maybe it tied to the character in Alice in Wonderland) and knew it was a common term in infidelity/affair boards for someone that has been on both sides. I have used it before in describing dMM and never was questioned so didn't think twice. Anyway, my apologies to Pierre and anyone that may have taken offense to it. Not my intention! I assumed and we all know what assuming does. Haha very fitting for our Pierre - think I will call him that from now on, sometimes his posts do seem like he has mercury poisoning. Joke Pierre 2
LFH Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I knew madhatter from Alice in Wonderland, and historically I know that sometimes hatters went "mad" because of the chemicals that were used by milliners in times gone. 1
spice4life Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I asked someone if they were a madhatter and apparently that got my hands slapped and I was very surprised. I didn't realize it had another meaning. I never thought too hard about it (as I can see clearly on literally Mad Hatter could have other meanings. Frankly I thought maybe it tied to the character in Alice in Wonderland) and knew it was a common term in infidelity/affair boards for someone that has been on both sides. I have used it before in describing dMM and never was questioned so didn't think twice. Anyway, my apologies to Pierre and anyone that may have taken offense to it. Not my intention! I assumed and we all know what assuming does. Why are you feeling so bad about it? And why was there such a harsh "defensive" reaction to it if it has been used before in infidelity?
Author Got it Posted March 14, 2013 Author Posted March 14, 2013 I think a very valid question. Why do a feel bad? Because my intention wasn't to insult. I was getting clarification. I stand by when I hit someone and I have definitely done that but not in that case. It was "new" news to me and was of interest. But what was new to me was a totally different meaning than I expected. I am one that tends to be verbose in my writing and will say something multiple times to make sure the meaning is clear. So to assume on something and run with it is not my normal mode of operations. So that is what I get for not writing a book when a sentence will do.
Author Got it Posted March 14, 2013 Author Posted March 14, 2013 I knew madhatter from Alice in Wonderland, and historically I know that sometimes hatters went "mad" because of the chemicals that were used by milliners in times gone. THAT I definitely didn't know. Humph. Learn something new every day.
spice4life Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I think a very valid question. Why do a feel bad? Because my intention wasn't to insult. I was getting clarification. I stand by when I hit someone and I have definitely done that but not in that case. It was "new" news to me and was of interest. But what was new to me was a totally different meaning than I expected. I am one that tends to be verbose in my writing and will say something multiple times to make sure the meaning is clear. So to assume on something and run with it is not my normal mode of operations. So that is what I get for not writing a book when a sentence will do. Well, that certainly happens a lot in these forums...saying things "multiple" times I mean. (lol). Not by you, but by many. It can certainly feel like the "Batman" version of mind control tactics. Oy, I think I'm going to sign out for a while. The battles are getting to be too much and it can really have an impact on one's day and life. Now I understand why some claim to feel damaged by this place sometimes. I certainly HOPE that posters who are vulnerable do not use these forums for therapy. It could really impact their overall emotional well being. 2
LFH Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 THAT I definitely didn't know. Humph. Learn something new every day. Yeah, sometimes I am a wealth of useless knowledge. 1
MissBee Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 The hatter in Alice in Wonderland is referred to as the "mad hatter" because he was insane That's what I immediately thought of. That's the only context I know it in, that the mad hatter was an insane hat maker from the Alice in Wonderland story and then thought from the story people started using it in common speech to mean an insane person.
Catplates Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 It actually comes from the book Alice in Wonderland. There was a character call the Mad Hatter. Cat.
skylarblue Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 That's what I immediately thought of. That's the only context I know it in, that the mad hatter was an insane hat maker from the Alice in Wonderland story and then thought from the story people started using it in common speech to mean an insane person. Ditto. That's the only way I know or ever heard it used in the States.
skylarblue Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Another useless facts alert- Alice in Wonderland popularized the term, but early usage goes back as far as 1829 "Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine". (conversation between a group of fictional characters) NORTH: Many years -I was Sultan of Bello for a long period, until dethroned by an act of the grossest injustice; but I intend to expose the traitorous conspirators to the indignation of an outraged world. TICKLER (aside to SHEPHERD.): He's raving. SHEPHERD (SHEPHERD to TICKLER.): Dementit. ODOHERTY (to both): Mad as a hatter. Hand me a segar. (BTW spelling is as written, not typos) Further 2am tidbit-Carroll's (Wonderland) "hatter" might well have been modeled on Theophilus Carter, an eccentric furniture dealer who characteristically sported a top hat. Carter was neither a hat maker nor had been exposed through his work to mercury fumes —if he had indeed been Carroll's inspiration for the "Mad Hatter" of Alice, it would have been because he was a somewhat nutty real-life character much given to the wearing of highly noticeable hats. 1
stevie_23 Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 Why do a feel bad? Because my intention wasn't to insult. I was getting clarification. I stand by when I hit someone and I have definitely done that but not in that case. It was "new" news to me and was of interest. Hmm. I don't think you should feel bad or feel a need to apologise when you didn't do anything wrong. You are not responsible for how other people may take something you say if you truly didn't mean anything bad by it.
RainDown Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 I'm glad someone asked this question. I've seen the term used around these forums and figured it was lingo related to someone who has "worn many hats" i.e. BS/WS/OW. I wasn't exactly sure though. Previously I'd only heard Madhatter used to refer to someone who is batsh*t crazy.
cocorico Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 A person who is a WS and BS. Well, I've learned something new! I only knew the "bat**** crazy" meaning. Both meanings are just prefect for describing my H's xW, though
todreaminblue Posted March 14, 2013 Posted March 14, 2013 the term was originally used to describe hat makers of old....what would happen is they would use mercury in hat making and the mercury would slowly send them insane.....mad a shatter was common among the milliners as insanity woudl often lead to eventual death......so now madhatter or mad as a hatter means a person with a certain level of insanity normally copious amounts of insanity, otherwise known as aka deb or todreaminblue...i happen to love hats also known as a poor mans cat in the hat....deb
Author Got it Posted March 14, 2013 Author Posted March 14, 2013 Okay so it begs the question, how on earth did it become the terminology for someone that has been a BS and WS? Goodness you people are a wealth of information! Putting a pin in that for future reference! 1
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