MrCastle Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Something else to consider is that popular media seems to be more liberal in portraying non-white women as attractive, which may broaden their appeal to men across a wider range of races... That's true too. Didn't consider that. I always thought it was because men are more visual. They're attracted to t&a, regardless if the t&a were black, hispanic, asian, etc.
ThaWholigan Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Something else to consider is that popular media seems to be more liberal in portraying non-white women as attractive, which may broaden their appeal to men across a wider range of races... Yep. Girl in my avi has a male fanbase that spans all races
USMCHokie Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 That's true too. Didn't consider that. I always thought it was because men are more visual. They're attracted to t&a, regardless if the t&a were black, hispanic, asian, etc. Well, I've seen threads on LS which have suggested that men are more body-oriented when it comes to women while women were more face-oriented when it comes to guys. This would certainly be consistent with the idea that men are more openminded when it comes to race. Body shapes and proportions tend to vary less between races while facial structures and features vary much more and are often very distinctive between races. Some of these racially prominent facial structures and features may not be as attractive as others... 2
Author kaylan Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 I'm sort of confused by some of you guys. Are you black and want to date white? I saw a lady in the drug store yesterday who was black and she was really pretty. I see attractive black girls all the time. Um....ever consider that the bulk of people in the country are white? Or that the bulk of people I see in my area or online are white or of different ethnicities? If I didnt date outside my race, I wouldnt date at all, and Id have very little sexual or dating experience.
Author kaylan Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 That's true too. Didn't consider that. I always thought it was because men are more visual. They're attracted to t&a, regardless if the t&a were black, hispanic, asian, etc. Dont get pulled into this trap. Women are very visual as well. They just seem more likely to crumble to societal or family pressure. Youd be surprised how many girls are attracted to a various amount of guys, but only go after the ones they feel they should be with because of how it looks. 1
iKING Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Keeping an open mind to ethnicity can only broaden your options I say. There isn't a single ethnicity I haven't run into at least one really attractive female from that ethnicity.
StanMusial Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Um....ever consider that the bulk of people in the country are white? Or that the bulk of people I see in my area or online are white or of different ethnicities? If I didnt date outside my race, I wouldnt date at all, and Id have very little sexual or dating experience. Actually, I did just realize that it would be an obstacle. Being a minority, by definition, means one is in a minority slice of the population.
USMCHokie Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Dont get pulled into this trap. Women are very visual as well. They just seem more likely to crumble to societal or family pressure. Youd be surprised how many girls are attracted to a various amount of guys, but only go after the ones they feel they should be with because of how it looks. So do you think it's more the cultural and societal implications of dating a particular race rather than the objective attractiveness of the members of that race...?
iKING Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 So do you think it's more the cultural and societal implications of dating a particular race rather than the objective attractiveness of the members of that race...? It's likely, many cultures around the world have implied social limitations. As in, what's deemed acceptable and what isn't. There's attractive women of every race.
USMCHokie Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 It's likely, many cultures around the world have implied social limitations. As in, what's deemed acceptable and what isn't. Is America old enough to have its own established culture? And if so, are certain races acceptable and unacceptable to date...?
iKING Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Is America old enough to have its own established culture? And if so, are certain races acceptable and unacceptable to date...? It really all depends on the family you come from, american culture is highly diverse which is a neat thing about us. There are many "sub-cultures" per-say that place social limitations based on race, class, etc., but it has been slowly dying out luckily. The newer generations tend to be more open-minded about the subject from my experience.
StanMusial Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Is America old enough to have its own established culture? And if so, are certain races acceptable and unacceptable to date...? There are all sorts of cultures that were brought here by different peoples. New cultures were created when those were combined or modified. I guess it depends on what you mean by "culture".
USMCHokie Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 There are all sorts of cultures that were brought here by different peoples. New cultures were created when those were combined or modified. I guess it depends on what you mean by "culture". And this synthesis of so many different cultures within a society leads me to believe that it has less to do with culture and more to do with the distinct physical appearance of each race.
ThaWholigan Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 So do you think it's more the cultural and societal implications of dating a particular race rather than the objective attractiveness of the members of that race...? Me personally, I think this varies by the individual. There are people who are primarily stimulated on a visual level (i.e. specific physical attributes - which may also vary by the individual - physiological factors etc). There are also those who are stimulated on intellectual level, those on a material level and those on an emotional level - and of course most people have varying levels of all those factors and some matter more than others. I have a combo of things I am attracted to - I am physically attracted to women primarily, but I also love women who are intellectual and women who are passionate. If I run into a woman with all 3 (I know one girl like that), it's a wrap . But yeah, it varies from person-to-person in my observation. Another poster kinda wondered why people don't think like him and focus on intellectual stimulation - but it doesn't work like that for everyone, we all have our modes that work for us....to deny them wouldn't be the best thing in the long run. A happy medium should suffice.
todreaminblue Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) You know how people sometimes say that folks may think they are more attractive than they really are? Well after my last couple months on online dating, in addition to having used it on and off for the last few years...Im wondering if thats the case for me too. I mean, Id like to think Im a catch...I think Im between average looking and cute facially, Im average height, Im in good shape, Im funny and empathetic, Im educated, I work, and I dont have any major issues or baggage (drugs, kids, ex drama, etc). I have a good profile too with some good pics. Yet for some reason I have to send out way too many first messages just to get a response. Its leaves me thinking its 1 or more of these things: 1. Girls arent finding me facially attractive. And tbh, I feel like the face matters much more to girls than a good body...but Im not really a slouch in either department. But my success rate leaves me wondering if girls find me ugly. Sure I havent been having long dating droughts, but I dont wanna have to go through loads of rejection just to enjoy an active dating life. 2. Id be good enough in person, but in OLD, girls wait it out for butterflies and a match that fits their list better. I mean, I can see the point many guys have made with girls passing on many good guys because they are waiting it out for a guy who ticks every box or gives them butterflies. Because the girls who view my profile and then dont respond, are women I know I could land in real life. Its like people expect online interactions to give them the same feelings as when they meet people in person. Plus text doesnt really capture personality well. But OKCs questions and profile layout does a decent job...but its not like I have any major deal breakers in my profile or questions. Its just weird when I have girls pass me over who I know sometimes arent even at the level of women Ive gotten in the past. 3. Im really starting to wonder if a white version of myself would be doing much better. Because lets be real...for the most part, being white on OLD is a pretty good leg up. If not only for the fact that whiteness is conflated with attractiveness and desirability in the media and throughout much of the world. Nevermind the fact that many girls match question answers say they prefer a guy of the same race, or they say in their profile they only like white dudes. I mean, when most women in my area are white, this presents a dating challenge. I tend to only date the girls who answered that question indicating they are open to other races, but still with no success. Because lets be real, theres no way to pin that down. They can be open to a Latino dude, but not open to a brother. But seriously, I couldnt see myself having this much trouble if I was my same self, but racially different. An educated white dude with a gym body, long hair, decent height, same facial attractiveness, educated, job, plays guitar and bass, has varied intellectual interests and social concerns, etc. I mean, I generally just roll with it, but Ive known guys who have less going for them do a good deal better than me online...and I cannot put my finger on it other than women just automatically being more open to dating them since the IR dating thing wouldnt be an issue. I mean, Im just wondering which of these numbered reasons is the reason Im not doing as well as I feel I should. Like I dont think Im an Ebony Adonis or anything, but Im no sewer dweller either. there are so many players online male and female........i dont think online gives true perspective on who a person is, who they are...to me its always a concern.....i always reply ....no matter what display picture is on show.....i dont think i am unique in this, i do know however i balk at meeting guys from online.....maybe thats a protection thing....i have decided old isnt for m e....not for the guys on there but because i doubt anything will progress to a point where i feel comfortable....old is suited to some and to some it isnt....you may be one it isnt suited too, I myself would rather date a guy i have known personally not on a computer screen....... if women are looking at your picture and measuring the spatial features of your face.....that seems a bit robotic to me......his eyes are two cm too close together......so nah not replying.....its a bit fickle........so they arent worth your time in worrying about...i dont think a photograph truly portrays who a person is ....nor does an online profile for that matter..i got this email from a woman warning me about a guy because she got into his email account and i came up....he was a serial players who ****ed women who were on the larger side....because he classed them as desperate an easy touch...i picked it up in his chats with me...he was smooth, oily even, not as smooth as goofy me.;0)....and i had no desire to meet him and had stopped chatting to him quite a while before i got the message from this upset woman who was played severely.....gave me perspective .......i wouldnt worry about online and who chooses to reply and who doesnt its all a bit hit and miss...good luck kaylan..deb.. Edited March 10, 2013 by todreaminblue
Negative Nancy Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Heck, I avoid messaging girls who answer "yes" to the OKC question "Do you strongly prefer to date someone of your own race?" Because I figure, why bother? I sure its not a hard and fast 100% rule for some of them to not date outside their race, but knowing how they answered that right off the bat would make me feel settled for. Its really lame...both sides of this race thing. Why don't you just date black chicks, problem solved.
Negative Nancy Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Another set of trends created by okcupid. Race does appear to matter to most people, particularly white men and women. It's embarrassingly and unfortunately obvious, in these statistics. How Your Race Affects The Messages You Get « OkTrends Why is embarrassing? Unless you're married to a man of a different race, you're just being a hypocrite yourself.
MrCastle Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Why don't you just date black chicks, problem solved. Come on, Nancy.
Author kaylan Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 Why don't you just date black chicks, problem solved. Learn to read the thread troll.
Negative Nancy Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Come on, Nancy. What, he implicitly complains about "racism" ("it's really lame..this race thing"), yet he obviously doesn't want to date women of his own race. Sorry, no one owes him anything and people have their preferences. He comes across as one of those guys who only wants to date white women while looking down on his "sistas".
tbf Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Why is embarrassing? Unless you're married to a man of a different race, you're just being a hypocrite yourself. Considering how I'd be lucky to see a black person once a month, how does marrying a Greek man make me a hypocrite? I've dated Asian men in the past. Refer to the ethnic origins of the demographics of Vancouver, Canada. Blacks aren't even mentioned and neither are hispanics. Demographics of Vancouver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Author kaylan Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 What, he implicitly complains about "racism" ("it's really lame..this race thing"), yet he obviously doesn't want to date women of his own race.Lol @ your white privilege, and how it allows you to dismiss my valid claims of race playing a role in my dating life. If you knew anything youd know the USA is majority white, and even more so in the suburban area where I live. If I didnt date outside my race, Id never date. Try again troll. Did you miss the link of the first page regarding OKC demographics? They are right when they say less than 3% of the women on the site are black. And I see about that amount of black women when Im out and about. Most single women I come across are white. Sorry, no one owes him anything and people have their preferences. He comes across as one of those guys who only wants to date white women while looking down on his "sistas". Learn to read and stop being an idiot. 2
tuxedo cat Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Well, I've seen threads on LS which have suggested that men are more body-oriented when it comes to women while women were more face-oriented when it comes to guys. This would certainly be consistent with the idea that men are more openminded when it comes to race. Body shapes and proportions tend to vary less between races while facial structures and features vary much more and are often very distinctive between races. Some of these racially prominent facial structures and features may not be as attractive as others... I don't think it's a matter of certain races being objectively more attractive than others. I can objectively appreciate that there are plenty of handsome Asian men, yet I rarely find myself attracted to them in a primal kind of way for whatever reason. In general I rarely find myself attracted to non-white dudes. I think it's simply the fact that I grew up around mostly white people so I imprinted on that type of male ideal. The guy I'm seeing now is Venezuelan but of white extraction. I'm sure if I had grown up in an Asian country my preferences would be very different. Edited March 10, 2013 by tuxedo cat
MrCastle Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 What, he implicitly complains about "racism" ("it's really lame..this race thing"), yet he obviously doesn't want to date women of his own race. Sorry, no one owes him anything and people have their preferences. He comes across as one of those guys who only wants to date white women while looking down on his "sistas". If you're not a minority, you don't know what it's like. When females of your own race prefer to date outside their race (mostly white) and you try to do the same with white women, the results are not the same.
Author kaylan Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 Apart from the OP, it seems to me like you a. find a problem that isn't there. You constantly brag about hooking up with and dating girls, now all of a sudden you have problems with that? How many girls have you kissed in the past 6 months? I'd be surprised if the number (I guesstimated it) didn't put you in at least the 90th percentile.Constantly brag? Yeah right. I come here looking for advice and sharing info. And if you read the OP, I clearly state that while my dating life is active, I dont feel its worth all the rejection and trial & error I go through. I dont wanna have to message 50 women just to get 3 dates. And Ive kissed as many women as I have slept with in the last few months. Which Im sure is more than you. Why dont you share your number since you always seem so interested in trying to put me down? b. blame that "problem" on your race and how white people discriminate against it. Lmao...dude, are you just ignoring OKCupids own studies on the matter? Are you just going to dismiss my own personal experiences, as well as that of others, who have come across women or men who will sex outside their race yet not date them? We arent just thinking these things up. Race plays a role in dating, whether or not some white people get butt hurt at those facts.
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