fortyninethousand322 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 There are some men who have to do everything right to get a girl to even think about dating them. You know if you're not one of these types of men. If you have to think about it, even for a second, you are that guy. Sucks, but that's life.
somedude81 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 This is actually really simple. You didn't make a move, didn't get her panties wet. This thread is a perfect example of how people over-analyze things that are actually VERY simple. Women tend to have very similar triggers and very similar turn-offs (people are people, after all). Sure it seems simple to you, but if a man doesn't know how to get a girls panties wet or what the triggers of a woman are, on or off, he will never get anywhere with women. That is the number one reason why men struggle with women. 1
ThaWholigan Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Sure it seems simple to you, but if a man doesn't know how to get a girls panties wet or what the triggers of a woman are, on or off, he will never get anywhere with women. That is the number one reason why men struggle with women. No. The number one reason is that they convince themselves that they will never learn.
tbf Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 irc333, you've made over 700 threads in 2.5 years. This doesn't take into account the hundreds of threads under other usernames. The majority of these threads pick apart one woman after another. Do you suppose that this type of nitpicking might come through in real life, that it might turn women off? 5
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Sure it seems simple to you, but if a man doesn't know how to get a girls panties wet or what the triggers of a woman are, on or off, he will never get anywhere with women. That is the number one reason why men struggle with women. If you don't know how to do something you want to do, how are you going to solve that problem? Learn how to do it.
somedude81 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 If you don't know how to do something you want to do, how are you going to solve that problem? Learn how to do it. I'm 31 years old. I've been interested in women since I was 13. Do you think I haven't tried to learn?
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I'm 31 years old. I've been interested in women since I was 13. Do you think I haven't tried to learn? No. I don't think you've tried to learn.
somedude81 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 No. I don't think you've tried to learn. You're wrong. And no I'm not going to take the time to amaze you with the stories of my failures, the time spent and money wasted.
Author irc333 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Posted March 9, 2013 I am thinking, that perhaps I have risen above the hype of the "getting her panties wet" goal. *shrug*
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I am thinking, that perhaps I have risen above the hype of the "getting her panties wet" goal. *shrug* Obviously not if you're not getting what you want and are actively seeking advice.
Author irc333 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Posted March 9, 2013 Obviously not if you're not getting what you want and are actively seeking advice. I'm reading through some of the advice in this thread. However, I'm skipping over the "you must get her panties wet" part. I completely ignore the advice that probably works when your in your wild college years, but that's about the extent of it. That being said, I'm looking for answers other than that.
Eggplant Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 The man should be my best friend, and we must also have chemistry. The chemistry part of the equation, however, is almost completely out of his control. For me it's almost entirely his natural scent.
Author irc333 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Posted March 9, 2013 The man should be my best friend, and we must also have chemistry. The chemistry part of the equation, however, is almost completely out of his control. For me it's almost entirely his natural scent. Believe you me, I have felt chemistry with some women before, and it was indeed mutual, even had been intimate on a first date (not sexually) because the sparks between the 2 of us were flying. Or the innuendo would indeed be rising....only never to score a 2nd date with her. One of them, I recall calling......she went "hot" from one night to "cold" the next time I tried to get a 2nd date with her. So it seems moot, apparently.
Lonely Ronin Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Believe you me, I have felt chemistry with some women before, and it was indeed mutual, even had been intimate on a first date (not sexually) because the sparks between the 2 of us were flying. Or the innuendo would indeed be rising....only never to score a 2nd date with her. One of them, I recall calling......she went "hot" from one night to "cold" the next time I tried to get a 2nd date with her. So it seems moot, apparently. Stop trying to approach the topic with pure logic, you will fail every time. Romance doesn't work that way.
rocketman122 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 chemistry/compatability and physical attraction are different things. you can be compatible with someone but not have physical attraction. the same with chemistry. chemistry can be with a good friend. when you have sparks then its mostly likely also physical attraction in there as well. many women from OLD I sent messages to who seemed to want the same things based on what they wrote in their profile simply said no thank you and the same happened with me. I looked and said to myself "this is too good to be true" everything was there but they werent interested. we may have wanted the same things but if I dont find her attractive, or she, me, there is nothing to talk about. dont take it personal. it happens all the time.
Els Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 If you shared the same sense of humor, etc, with a woman you didn't find physically attractive at all, would you be in a relationship with her? No. Well, it just works the same both ways. Attraction needs to be there and it's not usually as simple as sharing a sense of humor.
rocketman122 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) physical attraction is first and foremost. its primal. then the emotional/intellectual and spiritual connection after. otherwise it will go no where. between the 2 and if anything, you should want the physical attraction be there first, and not the compatibility. because when you have the physical you can try to work the other stuff out, but if you dont have the physical attraction, youre not getting in the door, no matter what! Edited March 9, 2013 by rocketman122
fortyninethousand322 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 One thing people need to realize is that human beings are governed nearly 100% by their hormones and biological factors . Even so called "logical" people are ruled by these things. That's why all the advice about self improvement and getting better at attracting the opposite sex is delusional. It's what people tell themselves to avoid telling the truth. If you are an evolutionary undesirable, well that sucks for you. If you're repeatedly getting the "I'm not attracted or let's be friends" line, it's a big indicator of where you stand biologically.
ThaWholigan Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 One thing people need to realize is that human beings are governed nearly 100% by their hormones and biological factors . Even so called "logical" people are ruled by these things. That's why all the advice about self improvement and getting better at attracting the opposite sex is delusional. It's what people tell themselves to avoid telling the truth. If you are an evolutionary undesirable, well that sucks for you. If you're repeatedly getting the "I'm not attracted or let's be friends" line, it's a big indicator of where you stand biologically. Well just be f*cking delusional instead
AD1980 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 physical attraction is first and foremost. its primal. then the emotional/intellectual and spiritual connection after. otherwise it will go no where. between the 2 and if anything, you should want the physical attraction be there first, and not the compatibility. because when you have the physical you can try to work the other stuff out, but if you dont have the physical attraction, youre not getting in the door, no matter what! Which is why all this work on yourself and its all about personality and chemistry stuff is a waste of time if a women is extremely attracted to you physically then all you have to do is not f it up and be somewhat compatible If shes not phsically attractde to you at all you can jump through hoops its not gonna change
Untouchable_Fire Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Believe you me, I have felt chemistry with some women before, and it was indeed mutual, even had been intimate on a first date (not sexually) because the sparks between the 2 of us were flying. Or the innuendo would indeed be rising....only never to score a 2nd date with her. One of them, I recall calling......she went "hot" from one night to "cold" the next time I tried to get a 2nd date with her. So it seems moot, apparently. Here are my guesses. I would bet that you are not aggressive enough and that you don't come across as passionate. I've noticed that women can get past a good many of your flaws so long as you display a truly burning desire for her... and not just physically.
Author irc333 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Posted March 9, 2013 Here are my guesses. I would bet that you are not aggressive enough and that you don't come across as passionate. I've noticed that women can get past a good many of your flaws so long as you display a truly burning desire for her... and not just physically. This makes a bit more sense, trying to reflect on some encounters with women.....I think that sometimes.....I would throw a flirt out at the person, or try to get a little closer, and they don't come back with a flirtaceous retort. I think there was a few times where women got upset with me for not wanting to be friends with them, though I wanted to date them. One was a State counselor, apparently she thought that since I could not be friends with her, it would set me up for some kind of problems with women in the future. Yeah, she was using her expert knowledge to "shame me" or make me think there was something wrong with me that I could not be friends with women. In fact, I had quite a few women think ill of me because I didn't want to be their friend. I said, "Just add on, "....that I'm attracted to." at the end...and it made sense to her. She said , "Yeah, I have experienced some men not wanting to be friends with me, because they wanted to date me....but...thankfully, they are STILL my friends today, and apparently they have no problem like YOU do with being my friend". Basically put....she made me think I was an ******* for not wanting to keep things platonic with her....while her other GUY friends seems to have no issues with it. I did turn it around by saying, "Well, you have a point, a guy could have several female friends...esp. in these group outings....but EVENTUALLY he'll come across a woman he won't want to be 'buddies' with......because he's ga-ga over her". I was making her feel the reality of the situation....eventually after so many men wanted to date her, she even accepted that fact. THis woman I'm about to see this weekend, she has had a few photos with her men out at "outings" together. One was at a fancy dinner club...both dressed very nicely....few photos up of them on Facebook. Her friends thought they were dating, and she had to disqualify that notion and explain "We're just friends" to everyone. Other men are left wondering, on her FB photos, I saw one with her with a guy, a bit more "close" to each other in the photos, I dunno, maybe trying to keep warm....but I might ask if she's seeing anyone....during our "date" and allure it to my interest in her by saying, "I just want to make sure, don't want to make your new boyfriend jealous, who ever he is, LOL!" Allude to my interest in her. I should get a T-shirt that says, "Don't think I'm an ******* for not wanting to be your friend, hon." lol.
Author irc333 Posted March 9, 2013 Author Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) If you shared the same sense of humor, etc, with a woman you didn't find physically attractive at all, would you be in a relationship with her? No. Well, it just works the same both ways. Attraction needs to be there and it's not usually as simple as sharing a sense of humor. I wanted to add, this could be a question......I thought that some people can over look your physical flaws, if you make it up in your personality (ie - humor, confidence, etc). many women from OLD I sent messages to who seemed to want the same things based on what they wrote in their profile simply said no thank you and the same happened with me. I looked and said to myself "this is too good to be true" everything was there but they werent interested. Right, you'd be suprised how many Geeky women who were into the same hobbies, interests, TV shows, movies....could recite lines to Monty Python (but I've seen them with 5 facial piercings....so I moved on from them) but if they seemed relatively cute....AND shared the same values, belief systems as well...that's a RARE find. Most Geeky girls are too "goth" for me, but some I've come across have been more compatible with me....but still "Sorry no not interested in even a short lunch date" You have to think going back on the physical, you see tons of ugly people dating...so what's their deal? lol I'm sure you've seen an ugly woman with an ugly guy....how do you think the ugly guy won over the ugly woman? Edited March 9, 2013 by irc333
Els Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I wanted to add, this could be a question......I thought that some people can over look your physical flaws, if you make it up in your personality (ie - humor, confidence, etc). Flaws, sure! Everyone has flaws anyway. But how about if there was literally zero attraction? Could you?
sillyanswer Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Can anyone explain this? She doesn't fancy you.
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