NapoleonNotSheep Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 Hi guys I am new here and I was reading forum and just couldn't help myself to create account and post this. I am sick and tired that i see people that are young and if they break up it is because one of them "realized" he is missing out on life. I mean what does missing out on life even mean? It means that you are missing out on fun? And by fun I mean what society assigned fun to be. Today if you are young you miss out on life if you don't go out, use drugs, have lots of sex with different people but for god sake do not start serious relationship young or better yet don't stay in it. Why the f*** are people nowadays so brainwashed by media and by some "popular" individuals? Also in this modern world we live in every retard has facebook which I think is the most useless piece of s*** that dude ever invented. Even Fyodor Dostoyevsky knew in time he lived knew people don't know how to think with their own head. And there are very little people that think with their own head "Napoleons" and some of them even lead "sheeps" which is majority of people. Everyone who is brainwashed please go read Crime and Punishment. Why can't people make their own goals in life? Why can't they do what they want to do when they are young and when they turn old that they won't look back and regret it? I think if people wouldn't know society they would think differently what fun is for them. Everyone should focus on himself and set his milestones that he wants to achieve and if he does he will be happy despite what anyone thinks. I am 19 and I am way more mature than 19 even my family can't believe that I am like this. My milestone was to meet perfect girl and be with her for the rest of my life but ofc she was sheep and society f***** me deep. Sorry for some bad words and for such a long topic but I just couldn't help it. Also I want your response to this what you think about whole drinking and having sex. Is that fun? Is this something you miss out when you are young if you don't do it?
SimonSerenade Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Hey, I had to reply to this because you made a lot of good points, I feel like this a lot of the time, nobody is brought up with values anymore, people are brain washed not just by media but by the general public to act in these ways, I grew up as a bit of a loner because I didn't really want to hang around with people who's only joy was to go out drinking and pulling women just to brag about it to people, it all seems so silly. People don't think for themselves anymore and society has people confused as to what someone of a certain age should want, relationships don't stand the test of time anymore because there's always something out there telling them how there supposed to be, how there supposed to act, how there supposed to be treated, how everything is supposed to be perfected in lots of different ways and if it's not then go out drink a lot and have lots of sex. I'm 25 now, I'll be 26 this year and I've never found fun in clubbing and I've never had any interest in meaningless sex with women, I was with somebody for around 4 years, had a kid with her and was all ready for settling down until she one day decided she hadn't gone for nights out or lived her life nearly as much as she wanted, I found it stupid how something so meaningless could be important so now I'm back in the same boat as you some years on, ultimate goal is to settle down, be married and be happy, just seems like that isn't an option anymore as most girls aren't interested in any of that and if they are they come with one hefty past trailing behind them. I've been seeing somebody for just over a year now who's had a bit of a past, the idea that guys used her and led her on for fun breaks my heart, most guys I come across now do nothing other than disgust me, I've never led anybody on or had meaningless sex which is why my numbers at this age currently stand at 2 and long may they remain that way, I hope society changes one day and these values are put back in place because it seems the important things in life are gone now and all that's really left for guys like us is the bitterly broken down scraps of a woman they've left behind. Your a good guy and I hope one day you have a good girl by your side, it might take some time but I'm sure it'll happen, you seem pretty mature to me and I was just like that at 19 years old and I got to say, I've never felt like I've missed out, it never seemed like fun and from how upset I've seen friends after a one night stand, I don't think they found it fun either, to me fun is playing a video game or going to the movies or just going for a nice walk on a sunny day, I've always been a fun day out kind of guy more than a dirty sleaze ball night on the town kind of guy and I'm proud of that and you should be proud of who you are too, there's not many like you around, take it in your stride Don't settle for any less than you feel you deserve, I'd never date anybody who lived that kind of life style, one of the best things about a relationship used to be getting to know somebody but damn.... if that's all I've got to hear about, the dirty things they did with other people, I'd rather just be single.
Author NapoleonNotSheep Posted March 7, 2013 Author Posted March 7, 2013 I am so happy that at least one person thinks the same. Its true. Women want to settle down when they know they are old, they had every d*** you can imagine in vagina, they are tired of being drunk and now they are ready and expect to meet a man on a white horse. Possibly thinking that they will be his first love and he will treat them like queen and even die for her. Well i say f*** off rly. If you choose to party and had sex and everything then stay that way. And u have kid with her and shes like that I have no words. I only hope you will tell your kid when he will be older what slut mom is and wanted other d*** and didn't care for him. I hate meaningless sex also. At first when I met my ex she wanted to have sex before we were together and ofc without love my penis didn't stand up and she started to cry... Pathetic. Others that can have meaningless sex don't know anything more than that and they are shallow. And the only brag with this because they can't brag about anything else but this useless thing. It hurts me more that she controlled me from the start. She wanted to be with me 24/7 and even at school we were in same class all the time. everything she wanted I tried to give to her. She was telling me that if I would leave her she would start to cut again and she would kill herself. And how without me she doesn't imagine life. She also talked how it would be to have kids together and about the future. And that she only looks for serious relationship. She was checking my phone my pc everything you can imagine. One day I went to buy shoes with my dad and she called me and I told her I was with my dad buying shoes and she got so mad because I didn't tell her that before I went and she hang up. One day I said hi to a girl neighbor and what my ex did was start running away as if I was cheating on her... But at the end she started to text some dude from work and she deleted texts (she was talking about places she had sex) and started to hide things and she was mad if I texted her. I found out and she was like she didn't do anything. I mean how you think you didn't do anything wrong if you got mad when I only said hi to a girl???? And yea with new friend you just met you talk about sex. I am just disappointed in life. I have too many thing in my head thats why everything is out of order. And she had dirty past you can't even imagine and it was soooooo hard for me to get over it. It took me a year. Sex to me is something you share with that special someone. Because what more can you do with that special someone than be inside of her? I just don't get this people today that have sex and its "normal". Even now if I talk to a woman I feel like I am cheating on her. She damaged me. Not only I became insecure but I became controlling like she did it to me and then she blamed me for it but after breakup she admitted she was wrong. I am just one big mess. It so weird at first she was invading in my life because I didn't want to get in a relationship because I knew young people are stupid but I let her inn because she presented herself that she was just like me. And then everything turned 180. She just changed and wanted to party and w/e and I can't live without her because I feel like my lungs are missing to breathe air.
SimonSerenade Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 We are a rare breed, most guys find girls who've had lots of sex attractive, I just find them disgusting and learning of there past always made me feel quite sad, I always wanted to find somebody who respected herself and wanted to wait for the right person but I learned there was nobody like that so for the longest time in my teen years just stayed single and even when I did find someone, my first long term relationship, I couldn't even have sex with her, I tried but got a horrible empty feeling from it and just had to stop and save my grace, it was weird because I lived with her for a long time and couldn't bring myself to do anything with her, she said I was picky, I said she was a total bitch lol, I tried it after that with other girls but I just couldn't go through with it with them either. I feel sorry for the women who are waiting till there older and waiting for the perfect guy because nobody in there right mind would stand by a woman like this, I couldn't sleep next to someone who'd had more sex than Christmas dinners for the rest of my life. I'm not really bothered about my ex girlfriend anymore, at the time it felt like I wasn't good enough and the life I provided for her wasn't good enough for her, gave her everything maybe somebody from the 1950's would of always wanted but in the end she just wanted to party around like an idiot and chase other guys and you know what, it was her loss and she'll regret that one day, preferably when she has to tell him the truth about why he hasn't got a family like a few friends at school have. Man I know how you feel on this part, My ex was just the same, at times I just wanted to leave her because she was so possessive but for years was so scared of what she would do if I did leave her as she used to cut herself too, it's so painful how you can go from meaning so much to somebody to feeling the cold touch of nothing at all, it feels like it happens all at once, she had a past, not so much sex but other things and I wouldn't say it was painful but more disgusting to say the least, I couldn't even touch her at times never mind have sex with her, there stupid to not think how these experiences would hurt there true lover one day, I kept myself to myself for this being one of the reasons. it's hard to get your head out of the gutter when you go through something like this, my relationship ended up the same way, I was so blind not to see it because she was secretive with her phone too, she'd quickly swipe it away from me if I even walked by it, other than that she'd be sat on the sofa tapping away, it was only after we broke up did I put the pieces together and find out the truth, I even saw the guy she was having fun with behind my back for months near the end of our relationship just after we broke up, he'd walk from her mums house where she lived and he'd do it any time I dropped my son off and she'd always be in her pjs or have next to nothing on so I wasn't stupid, her friend felt so bad she felt the need to tell me because it wasn't fair that I didn't know, funny how they can be so crazy about little things and go and do something huge like that. At the moment I'm not with my current girlfriend for something pretty similar, near the start of our relationship I got her a new phone and she gave me her old blackberry, she'd deleted everything on it but forgot to delete the saved messages folder and the stuff I saw on there instantly turned my stomach and had me in tears, I just couldn't believe what I was reading, she didn't seem like that kind of person at all but I was so in love with her I didn't have the heart to end it back then, since then I've never been able to get over what I saw and I think she thinks of it as nothing and that's heart breaking because to me stuff like that means a lot and effectively ruined my image of her, she hasn't got much of a past, she's a pretty innocent lovely girl in that way, before me there was 2 guys and a girl, her first time was with somebody my sister has been with, my god... picturing that was like seeing a dead rotting horse, my only hope now is to ride that dead horse to safety lol. Just like you I didn't want to let this girl in because the girl before her damaged me so far beyond repair but she came across to be just like me and shared all my views and values and unfortunately somewhere down the line it all went to hell, to her it was stupid mistakes, to me it was some guy slapping my girlfriends ass with his dirty ball sack >.<, it just breaks my heart because they were players with only one thing on there mind taking advantage of her innocence, I couldn't ever consider doing that to someone, it would be so vile and shameful, only she doesn't see it that way, I wasn't perfect though, I gave in to the pressure of society and lied to her about the people I'd had sex with, I told her there'd been a few and made some stories up to back it, I felt she wouldn't be interested in a guy my age with no sexual experience, I told her the truth just recently and she claimed to come clean about her 2 ex's saying she tried it with them but never went through with it but I feel she's just lying to me to protect my feelings, it may seem like a silly thing to be bothered about but it's just such an intimate thing that you should save for someone special and nobody else, like you said, there's nothing more special than being inside a girl, it's just a shame people don't see it that way anymore, people just see it as something you do with just about anyone for the sake of it. This girl doesn't deserve you, I don't feel there's anything wrong with how you feel and what you expect from somebody your with, she'll regret losing you and I bet my left nut she'll realise that soon, if you ever want to talk just message me on here, I have Skype too if you ever want to a heart to heart, I don't use facebook and all that social networking stuff though, that's yet another thing I can't stand about society now.
SimonSerenade Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 We are a rare breed, most guys find girls who've had lots of sex attractive, I just find them disgusting and learning of there past always made me feel quite sad, I always wanted to find somebody who respected herself and wanted to wait for the right person but I learned there was nobody like that so for the longest time in my teen years just stayed single and even when I did find someone, my first long term relationship, I couldn't even have sex with her, I tried but got a horrible empty feeling from it and just had to stop and save my grace, it was weird because I lived with her for a long time and couldn't bring myself to do anything with her, she said I was picky, I said she was a total bitch lol, I tried it after that with other girls but I just couldn't go through with it with them either. I feel sorry for the women who are waiting till there older and waiting for the perfect guy because nobody in there right mind would stand by a woman like this, I couldn't sleep next to someone who'd had more sex than Christmas dinners for the rest of my life. I'm not really bothered about my ex girlfriend anymore, at the time it felt like I wasn't good enough and the life I provided for her wasn't good enough for her, gave her everything maybe somebody from the 1950's would of always wanted but in the end she just wanted to party around like an idiot and chase other guys and you know what, it was her loss and she'll regret that one day, preferably when she has to tell him the truth about why he hasn't got a family like a few friends at school have. Man I know how you feel on this part, My ex was just the same, at times I just wanted to leave her because she was so possessive but for years was so scared of what she would do if I did leave her as she used to cut herself too, it's so painful how you can go from meaning so much to somebody to feeling the cold touch of nothing at all, it feels like it happens all at once, she had a past, not so much sex but other things and I wouldn't say it was painful but more disgusting to say the least, I couldn't even touch her at times never mind have sex with her, there stupid to not think how these experiences would hurt there true lover one day, I kept myself to myself for this being one of the reasons. it's hard to get your head out of the gutter when you go through something like this, my relationship ended up the same way, I was so blind not to see it because she was secretive with her phone too, she'd quickly swipe it away from me if I even walked by it, other than that she'd be sat on the sofa tapping away, it was only after we broke up did I put the pieces together and find out the truth, I even saw the guy she was having fun with behind my back for months near the end of our relationship just after we broke up, he'd walk from her mums house where she lived and he'd do it any time I dropped my son off and she'd always be in her pjs or have next to nothing on so I wasn't stupid, her friend felt so bad she felt the need to tell me because it wasn't fair that I didn't know, funny how they can be so crazy about little things and go and do something huge like that. At the moment I'm not with my current girlfriend for something pretty similar, near the start of our relationship I got her a new phone and she gave me her old blackberry, she'd deleted everything on it but forgot to delete the saved messages folder and the stuff I saw on there instantly turned my stomach and had me in tears, I just couldn't believe what I was reading, she didn't seem like that kind of person at all but I was so in love with her I didn't have the heart to end it back then, since then I've never been able to get over what I saw and I think she thinks of it as nothing and that's heart breaking because to me stuff like that means a lot and effectively ruined my image of her, she hasn't got much of a past, she's a pretty innocent lovely girl in that way, before me there was 2 guys and a girl, her first time was with somebody my sister has been with, my god... picturing that was like seeing a dead rotting horse, my only hope now is to ride that dead horse to safety lol. Just like you I didn't want to let this girl in because the girl before her damaged me so far beyond repair but she came across to be just like me and shared all my views and values and unfortunately somewhere down the line it all went to hell, to her it was stupid mistakes, to me it was some guy slapping my girlfriends ass with his dirty ball sack >.<, it just breaks my heart because they were players with only one thing on there mind taking advantage of her innocence, I couldn't ever consider doing that to someone, it would be so vile and shameful, only she doesn't see it that way, I wasn't perfect though, I gave in to the pressure of society and lied to her about the people I'd had sex with, I told her there'd been a few and made some stories up to back it, I felt she wouldn't be interested in a guy my age with no sexual experience, I told her the truth just recently and she claimed to come clean about her 2 ex's saying she tried it with them but never went through with it but I feel she's just lying to me to protect my feelings, it may seem like a silly thing to be bothered about but it's just such an intimate thing that you should save for someone special and nobody else, like you said, there's nothing more special than being inside a girl, it's just a shame people don't see it that way anymore, people just see it as something you do with just about anyone for the sake of it. This girl doesn't deserve you, I don't feel there's anything wrong with how you feel and what you expect from somebody your with, she'll regret losing you and I bet my left nut she'll realise that soon, if you ever want to talk just message me on here, I have Skype too if you ever want to a heart to heart, I don't use facebook and all that social networking stuff though, that's yet another thing I can't stand about society now.
Author NapoleonNotSheep Posted March 7, 2013 Author Posted March 7, 2013 I totally agree with you. My ex was embarrassed at what she has done in past and I was like ok I forgive you because you are really sorry and you would also like that your past would be different. And then what I discover? She gets job and first dude she sees she start texting with him and bragging where she had sex and everything. I mean how can you be embarrassed of your past and then go and brag to some stranger about it? If she would brag about it when we met for sure I would run away from her because I don't want used women. I don't get it why you have to have sex with many different people? What is the point in it? And when we had sex for a long time I had visions about her past and i got just soft. You can see that my heart won't let my penis even stand up when my heart is not happy. I have never thought about leaving her. Well only at start when we were 1 month together because she was talking about kids and I mean I was like you know me 1 month and you already think you know me and want to be with me for the rest of your life. But after that I would die for her if she would ask. I also thought that I meant world to her but one day that just change in blink of an eye. Maybe it has something to do with her parent because her father was a drunk and her mother just obeyed him and she wasn't allowed to even hang out with that 1 best friend she had and if she was late 5 mins she was punished and grounded for 2 months. Also she has depression and doesn't want to take meds. I mean yea she was checking my phone and everything. They do this probably because they are hiding something and they think you will do the same. And I still can't believe it how SHE could do this to me but before she would die without me. Let alone if I would do something like this to her she would kill herself. If I couldn't say hi to my neighbor and she started running away from me and get mad then I can't imagine if I would flirt behind her back. At the moment I'm not with my current girlfriend for something pretty similar, near the start of our relationship I got her a new phone and she gave me her old blackberry, she'd deleted everything on it but forgot to delete the saved messages folder and the stuff I saw on there instantly turned my stomach and had me in tears, I just couldn't believe what I was reading, she didn't seem like that kind of person at all but I was so in love with her I didn't have the heart to end it back then, since then I've never been able to get over what I saw and I think she thinks of it as nothing and that's heart breaking because to me stuff like that means a lot and effectively ruined my image of her, she hasn't got much of a past, she's a pretty innocent lovely girl in that way, before me there was 2 guys and a girl, her first time was with somebody my sister has been with, my god... picturing that was like seeing a dead rotting horse, my only hope now is to ride that dead horse to safety lol. I just can't believe why people want to be with you and lie to you and do stuff behind your back? Can't they just tell you how it is and ur done? And yea people expect you to be the nicest person ever and that you would tell the everything and that you wouldn't do anything to hurt them and that they mean world to you. And if you do something small it is like you have cheated and ur pig and what not. But they go and text some random dudes about sex and everything and then delete messages and think that thats ok. Women don't really know what they want and when they are telling you something and they lie they don't even know it. They think they are telling the truth. Maybe that is because of their hormones because their mood also swings by seconds. Just like you I didn't want to let this girl in because the girl before her damaged me so far beyond repair but she came across to be just like me and shared all my views and values and unfortunately somewhere down the line it all went to hell, to her it was stupid mistakes, to me it was some guy slapping my girlfriends ass with his dirty ball sack >.<, it just breaks my heart because they were players with only one thing on there mind taking advantage of her innocence, I couldn't ever consider doing that to someone, it would be so vile and shameful, only she doesn't see it that way, I wasn't perfect though, I gave in to the pressure of society and lied to her about the people I'd had sex with, I told her there'd been a few and made some stories up to back it, I felt she wouldn't be interested in a guy my age with no sexual experience, I told her the truth just recently and she claimed to come clean about her 2 ex's saying she tried it with them but never went through with it but I feel she's just lying to me to protect my feelings, it may seem like a silly thing to be bothered about but it's just such an intimate thing that you should save for someone special and nobody else, like you said, there's nothing more special than being inside a girl, it's just a shame people don't see it that way anymore, people just see it as something you do with just about anyone for the sake of it. Ye to them its oh nothing happened and its nothing. But to us its BIG DEAL. They have only pussy in mind thats reality. And they don't take girls innocence but her stupid mind on how great they are. And when they dump that girl and before she realizes it is to late. And then they are heartbroken and I don't know what. Think before you do something! It is your own fault! But it is weird because the first guy of my ex did cheat on her and then just left her via msn and she hasn't see him since. And she was in pieces and started to cut herself and I don't know what else. So I can't get my head around it how can she do this to me now when she knows how much it hurts? It doesn't make any sense. And yea this girl probably lied. I don't think it is something wrong with me but I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE WORLD! And I am mad about it.
SimonSerenade Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Man you really are speaking to my heart right now, I never understood either, it was like "okay yeah I can forgive that, this is what relationships are all about, understanding and forgiveness" then she goes and has my baby and all of a sudden she wants everyone bar me, I don't even know how I forgave her back then and got back together with her, I never slept with her in the year and a half that we were together afterwards, the images in my head were just too vivid, I mean there was one guy who was **** ugly and had horse teeth and I was like "well... maybe you were giving him a break, I can understand that, yeah we'll be alright" then she'd mention some player she met on a night out and I'd go ballistic, I knew then she just did it for the fun of it rather than because of some ****ed up place she was at in her mind or something like that, it was just disgusting. I hate that excuse that people make about there upbringing and there parents, both of my ex's had these problems, the first ex claimed her dad was a dick head with her mum and wouldn't let her do anything other than be a house wife, my 2nd ex said her dad used to mentally abuse her mother and never let her go out with friends and just generally make her feel worthless, I grew up without either of my parents, I was raised by my grandparents and that never bothered me, I was just grateful to have a roof over my head and some dinner on the table, I always promised myself I'd grow up to be my own person and not something my past had made me, one thing that bothered me about how my recent ex lost her virginity was when she was 14 she just let his friend talk her in to it and it was all a big meaningless laugh to all of them, it made me sick to think of that, I never wanted anything like that at that age, I just went to school, did my work, came home, played some video games, I had offers from girls in school but I knew very well nothing in high school would last so I wasn't going to give it up just like that to mean nothing, I couldn't stand how she didn't have a sharp enough mind to think the same thing. I always hated that, one rule for one, one rule for the other, I always stuck by my recent ex no matter what, even when I found those messages on her old blackberry, the whole thread started a month before we got together and ran on until a month in our relationship, she had a huge shouting session at me for it, as if it was my fault she sent those filthy messages to this random guy and I'm just supposed to believe that her past was all innocent, I even wound up taking her word on nothing happening while we were together and that took something out of me yet just last week it my kid's 4th birthday and she was such a dick about me having to explain to her why it was important to me that she at least get him a card or something, she wound up getting him nothing, she even said "maybe we shouldn't be together", like I could just get on with it over something so huge like that and she can't even handle me shouting at her for something I felt very passionately about, I couldn't believe what my ears were hearing, it's been like that through both relationships. I couldn't stand the lies, especially the ones they use to get you close to them so they can have what they want, with my first ex I didn't even want to have sex with her, she talked me into it after a few months of being together, I'd never take that back obviously because I love my son to pieces, he gives me so much meaning to my life but I just wish I could of had him with somebody who's aim was to settle down and be married, I had no problem having sex with my recent ex, I loved her from a far for so long before I even knew her and got together with her so when the time came to it I was ready and it felt special and meaningful, probably why it hurt so much to learn the truth about her, killed me knowing when I was admiring her from a far she was flirting and doing god knows what with the guys just before me, she doesn't seem to understand that, I think certain women only understand what they want to. It's like I'm picky, the next girl I'm with doesn't have to be a virgin or anything, just has to have some sort of a meaningful past sex life, I was getting to know someone before my recent ex and she was great, I mean, just a really down to earth lovely honest girl, I hated myself for ages that I turned her down because my recent ex came along and told me she liked me and stuff like that, this girl told me all about her past when I first met her and yeah there'd been a few guys but they were all long term relationships, she loved them and they loved her and there was something about the way she talked to me that made me feel alright about all that, made me feel secure hearing it and made me feel like if I got with her I could live with it and not be bothered by it because I'd mean something to her too, shame there's not many girls like that out there now. Thanks for talking to me about all this dude, I was feeling really bad about my recent break up but in light of everything we've talked about, I know I'm not alone now and it's normal to feel like way and you know something, you haven't seen the last of this girl, in my experience you have to wait a good while for them to come back but they do if you've been a good guy, my first ex came back after about a year and I'll tell you now there was no greater satisfaction than turning her down because I knew I deserved better, I never understood how my ex could leave me after all guys had put her through either, same with my recent ex, she never appreciated how different I was to her ex's and how much better I was for her and how well I treated her, I treated her like a little princess, made sure she knew everyday what she meant to me, I'm sure as hell you did the same and if that's not enough for these girls then they've got impossible standards and will never find happiness with anyone and they'll look back on us and regret how they've acted, I know right now you want to understand your girl but I don't think she understands herself and that's something she'll have to do by herself and you'll just have to wait it out on the side lines before you ever get an answer, in todays society nobody knows what how they feel, let alone what feelings are but to hell with them, with how they've been, why would we ever want them back?. We know what we want and we know what we expect, weather they give us that or weather somebody else gives it to us, we should never accept any less and stick to our guns.
Author NapoleonNotSheep Posted March 8, 2013 Author Posted March 8, 2013 Well what I have learned is that every women lies. Now maybe she doesn't know that she is telling lies because she just believes so much in what shes saying that it must be true even if its not. And when their hormones are somewhat ok they won't admit when you tell them that they lied. It just pisses me off. Sometimes I just wish I could be gay because then I wouldn't have this mood swings or even worse that they are "missing out on life". I think you can brainwash women easily because how their hormones work on their emotions. You can say she is pretty and all the sweet things you know she wants to hear and you are in her pants... I went out couple of times with my cousin because he said I will kill myself because I was thinking about her and stuff too much. And I didn't even have to say anything and women came up to me. I was so disappointed because that is someones daughter and I know they wouldn't feel good if they knew what she was doing. My gf also told me that she was "housewife" because she needed to clean up clogged toilet after her father. Also she needed to clean up piss and what not after him. Before we were together she also texted me that he came home drunk and that she is locked in her room with her mother because they are scared of him and I asked what can I do and she only told me that it was enough that I was worried for her. And he also punched her and verbally abused her every day when she was younger. My girl also lost virginity at 14 and how? She didn't have any friends so she went online in chat room and met some random dude and she just started to talk to him. And they decided to meet. And when they did they were in park and he just picked her up on big stone and just took her jeans off and pulled his dick out and put it in... It was painful but she was "in shock" so she didn't say anything. Now if she didn't like it why the hell did she meet with him again? Hell why did she even talk to him after that. Every time they met he was just ****ing her in public. An reason she did stay with him was because he was texting with her all day and was saying nice things to her and she thought he cared for her... Stupid as ****. What pissed me off was that when we were together if I grabbed her rear she got mad that someone will see it. I mean wtf? You f***** with some stranger on first day where other people were watching and you saw them (and he was ugly as f*** thats what she told me). And then she is worried that someone will see me grabbing her ass. Oh and not to mention that she also told everyone she talked to in school that she is horny girl that likes sex. I mean you just can't put this things together because they don't match. You can't have night and day together at same time as she would like. And with every other guy she initiated sex. She didn't like it with first guy she had so I don't know why did she want to have sex. From day I invited her to my home (her dad didn't let anyone in his home because other would think his daughter is whore) she only wanted one thing and it was sex and lying with me in bed. One day her parents went on holiday and I came to sleep over to her place and the whole day we had sex and I thought my penis would fall off. We did it 16 times and the bed was soaking wet. Even now when I saw her she told me she would like to have sex with me but not be with me. It was close that I almost punched her because that just got to my heart like a spear. She likes psychology and I think everyone that likes psychology and wants to study it is addicted to sex like Freud that based everything on sex. If you have strong mind and know your way with words then you can trick people in doing things you want them to do. I always hated that, one rule for one, one rule for the other, I always stuck by my recent ex no matter what, even when I found those messages on her old blackberry, the whole thread started a month before we got together and ran on until a month in our relationship, she had a huge shouting session at me for it, as if it was my fault she sent those filthy messages to this random guy and I'm just supposed to believe that her past was all innocent, I even wound up taking her word on nothing happening while we were together and that took something out of me yet just last week it my kid's 4th birthday and she was such a dick about me having to explain to her why it was important to me that she at least get him a card or something, she wound up getting him nothing, she even said "maybe we shouldn't be together", like I could just get on with it over something so huge like that and she can't even handle me shouting at her for something I felt very passionately about, I couldn't believe what my ears were hearing, it's been like that through both relationships. One thing is if she cheated on you but that she couldn't buy a present for her child that is just beyond belief. You can't make a child and expect that you won't have to raise him and give him good life. My dad also cheated on my mum and left us just 5 years ago. And he married to this slut year after this. Ofc she is in for the money and thats it. To make sure to get the cash she also "wanted" a child. He told me he is sorry but once you do something so huge you can't fix it is to late. Think before you do something to not hurt your loved ones. But these people only look after their ass. killed me knowing when I was admiring her from a far she was flirting and doing god knows what with the guys just before me, she doesn't seem to understand that, I think certain women only understand what they want to. Ye I don't see point in it anymore. You admire her like she is goddess but another guy is just there to use her and she lets him do it. In fact she wants him to do it. And that makes me feel worthless. And women don't know what they want that 100% sure. Now they want love and then second goes by and they want other guys penis. I wouldn't take her back because once was enough of what she did to me. I am just thinking how it could have been if this didn't happen and it makes me sad that I can only dream about it now because there is no way back. I don't event want to have any other girl because every girl will be same to me in my eyes. Because she was different from the outside but when her inside showed up after 2 years I know that I can't trust anyone and better to be alone.
ddlovexx Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) I agree with a lot of what you said. I'm also in a relationship right now where the guy doesn't seem to be ready to give up his "fun life" which to me is all a bunch of BS. I would never stop him from doing what he wanted to do or hold him back, I could only hope he would want to do most of those things with me by his side. You can be in a committed relationship and still have a great, fun life. You can have nights to yourself when you need them, but when you love someone don't you want to have a "fun life" with that someone? Whenever I do something fun or travel or do something new, I'm always pretty bummed when my guy isn't experiencing it with me. To me life is all what you make of it and for me, sharing that with the person I love just puts me over the edge in terms of happiness. I don't really understand it either, but I'm not sure there's anything that can be done about it. Edited March 8, 2013 by ddlovexx
SimonSerenade Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Women usually tend to tell white lies, like you said they don't mean to but there's some truth's to them that just shouldn't be told, hormones always confused me, I've never had a girlfriend who hasn't been controlled by them for some reason or another, being gay does seem like a good life style lol but most gay people always bothered me, like they put it all on to be different or something, I used to know 2 gay people at my old job who weren't like that what so ever, yeah they were gay but you couldn't tell the difference if they were or not, only thing different from them to any other guy was the fact that they slept with men and not women, got to admire guys like that, most other gay guys just seem to want to shove there sexuality in your face. I never understood my ex because she said so many bad things about her dad and how badly he treated her mum but yet she insisted on seeing him on a weekly basis and talks to him all the time, always baffled me how little respect she had for herself to do that, I know it's her dad and all but if my dad had done half of what he did to her mum, the only time I'd see him would be to spit in his coffin and dance on his grave. Aw man that must of been so rough, having to carry around that image for so long in your head, no matter what you do there's no getting that out of your head once you know, sure you could probably get to a point where it doesn't bother you anymore but it'll always be there in the back of your mind, there's no possible excuse out there that can make up for that, I always believed somebody under those sort of circumstances could control themselves and if she was doing that in a chat room then that was her own stupid fault, I felt like this with my ex, I mean, if she'd have just said "don't be so ****ing disgusting" she wouldn't of had sex at 14, having sex for those reasons just makes me feel so sick. My ex used to have problems with me showing her affection in public too, couldn't even hold her hand at first, when we first met up she did hold my hand then let it go when she saw some of her work friends, I felt she was ashamed of me, she wouldn't even go in to her work with me when I needed to nip in for some milk, these are just simple things yet she made it so hard but had no problem going out before me kissing guys and coming on to them and all that crap, like you said it's night and day, the difference between good public affection and really bad public affection. I think what really gets me is how I put in so much emotional effort for her, it was like I was the only one who cared, if something went wrong I'd be right there trying to fix it, even when it wasn't my place and just like with my previous ex, I was the one doing the hurting and feeling the desperation, literally carrying the back lash of the whole relationship on my shoulders while she didn't give a crap, it's such a hard thing to accept that your the one who feels stronger than she does, it's a worthless feeling when your taken for granted, all I ever really asked for was some understanding and for her to be there for me, she couldn't even do that. I respect your decision man, it's a tough one but it's the right one, things will one day get easier, your going to be carrying around a lot of hurt at first but it'll eventually ease up, just got to get used to not seeing her and all the daily things you did, I've cut contact with mine all together, I never want to know what she's doing or even who she's doing, whatever stupid mistakes she makes now are hers to make but as for me, I'm just going to take some time to myself and try my best to get through it, I'm not interested in anybody else either, I feel there's probably people out there who'll have something worse to tell me so I'm just not going to bother, I was always happy on my own and I was always perfectly content without anything that goes on in a relationship, never felt the sexual urges like most do when I'm not in a relationship, I loved this girl more than I've ever loved anybody and she was the only one who made me feel comfortable doing all that, just a heart breaker that it was like that for her yet the complete opposite for her because she could just go and throw herself away like that and talk to guys like she did, sure does help to know I'm not the only one who thinks like this, thanks a lot man, you truly are a great guy =]
SimonSerenade Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 I agree with a lot of what you said. I'm also in a relationship right now where the guy doesn't seem to be ready to give up his "fun life" which to me is all a bunch of BS. I would never stop him from doing what he wanted to do or hold him back, I could only hope he would want to do most of those things with me by his side. You can be in a committed relationship and still have a great, fun life. You can have nights to yourself when you need them, but when you love someone don't you want to have a "fun life" with that someone? Whenever I do something fun or travel or do something new, I'm always pretty bummed when my guy isn't experiencing it with me. To me life is all what you make of it and for me, sharing that with the person I love just puts me over the edge in terms of happiness. I don't really understand it either, but I'm not sure there's anything that can be done about it. I think you have the right idea here, in my experience it's hard when you have one idea like that and they have the opposite, it could possibly work, I think maybe he's going through a phase, I'd just let him do what he wants now and get it out of his system, obviously there has to be a limit to it and I think it goes without saying what that limit is. Just let him know your here for him and you'd like to share that with him like any of his good experiences in his life, you want to hold his hand smiling for it all, some of the best times I've had with a woman has been going for days out, somewhere like Blackpool pleasure beach or even just for a simple coffee and to do a bit of clothes shopping or something. I know how you feel, it's always better to share good times with the one you love, in recent years the football (soccer) team I've supported all my life just started going up a notch and playing some great football, doing well in cup competitions and I remember following them around in the champions league, going abroad and all that and man I should of been loving every minute but without someone to love and when your there on your own, you should be having fun but it just felt empty. Just stick to your guns, let him know your there for him and happy for him to go with all his friends and all that and be supportive about It so long as it doesn't get out of hand but at the same time put your foot down and let him know you won't wait around forever for a guy to give you the simple pleasures life can offer, life is what you make it, you don't have to love all the superficial things people would have you believe you have to like, sometimes old ways are best and there's everything right with that.
Author NapoleonNotSheep Posted March 8, 2013 Author Posted March 8, 2013 I agree with a lot of what you said. I'm also in a relationship right now where the guy doesn't seem to be ready to give up his "fun life" which to me is all a bunch of BS. I would never stop him from doing what he wanted to do or hold him back, I could only hope he would want to do most of those things with me by his side. You can be in a committed relationship and still have a great, fun life. You can have nights to yourself when you need them, but when you love someone don't you want to have a "fun life" with that someone? Whenever I do something fun or travel or do something new, I'm always pretty bummed when my guy isn't experiencing it with me. To me life is all what you make of it and for me, sharing that with the person I love just puts me over the edge in terms of happiness. I don't really understand it either, but I'm not sure there's anything that can be done about it. I don't know why they are like that. And I would like to know why do they need to go out alone without us? How do they "love" us so much but they want to have fun without us? I just can't figure it out why. And probably I won't because I am not like them. Tell him what you told here and if it bothers you too much ask him if he want you or does he wants to have fun and flirt with other girls. I was also happy on my own and I was happy when holidays came because I could play games and do whatever I want. But I just f***** up when I let her in my life. Because now I don't see any fun in anything. I left college and I just go in gym and workout and eat good food. I just don't see the point in future also. Because it will seem like retarded but I was at fortuneteller in december because my ex went a week before me. She asked if we would be together forever and fortune teller said no because she will leave me for another guy. When she started to talk to that dude I just ended relationship because I couldn't believe what she is doing and doesn't see anything wrong with it. Some time after that I went to fortuneteller and she told me that we won't be together also and the future she told me I will have and that can't be changed its just like w/e. What is the point in living if I know how its going to be? Now a lot of people were to this fortune teller and every day there is more people that come to her. And everyone told me that what she tells you it will happen. She also can't know some thing about me because when you go in you only tell your age and then she goes in to some kind of trans and tells you things. After she is done you can ask her questions. And she doesn't ask you anything. Now me, my mom and my cousin went to this fortuneteller on 3 different occasions and we got same answers when we asked for one another. So she can't be telling just some crap. So now every day I just don't want to look forward to anything really. I have read so many thing about fortune and everything that I am little insane.
Author NapoleonNotSheep Posted March 9, 2013 Author Posted March 9, 2013 Quite ashamed but mi life really came to the point I don't to live it anymore. I went out today and everything that happened was s***. I think I need to go to the other side as fast as I can go.
SimonSerenade Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 I know it's hard but no woman is worth your life and if she can make you feel like that the she's worth nothing!, tell me about your bad day mate.
Author NapoleonNotSheep Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 It not only because of her. I am sick and tired of world I live in. People are supposed to be smarter than back then but as they get smarter their value for life is going lower and lower. And once this happened to me I won't be ever able to trust to anyone again. I will always be insecure that maybe day is coming that this new person will f*** me. And for sure with that in my head I can't be myself and also I can't fully love new person. Friend asked me to go out with him Friday night so I went out. Everything was kind of ok but then when we came in to a club everything just went downhill. Music wasn't really good and on top of that there were chip and dales on stage. I mean what retarded club would order them because there was 80-90% of men and this isn't gay club. So we just went home. And while I was walking home I was just thinking how did I end up in this place and century. Why wasn't I born when family had biggest value in life. I was born and I didn't have choice but I have choice to die because I don't like this world not even a bit.
SimonSerenade Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 I know it's hard but you got to hang in there, society always changes, who's to say it won't improve again and values won't go up again, I hope it does, you got to believe somebody better is around the corner, I know some girls with values, some of them still virgins in there 20s still so there's still good people out there, this girl isn't the end of the world, I know it feels like it though but you got to believe somebody will come along and treat you right. That sucks about your night out, I had a few like that when I was getting over my ex, thinking about her ruined any night I tried to have on the town, I realised I just wasn't a go for a night out sort of guy though, there was more to life than that and the people you meet in these clubs, some of them are just awful, not exactly the best place to go to meet new people, especially if your looking for people with values. Don't end your life, your a good dude and you deserve to have a chance to really enjoy what life's still got to offer you, it will get better, might not seem like it now but it will, take some time for yourself and maybe stay solitary for a while, took me a while before I started socialising again,6 or 7 months even, started hanging round with some of the family, had some great days out just doing simple things like walking round a public park, having a coffee and just enjoying a chat, life's not always rosy but it's always worth living.
Author NapoleonNotSheep Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 I think it will be hard to understand because even I don't know what is missing in my life. It is strange feeling. I do miss my ex the most and I would like to have her by my side and I know if we would be together I wouldn't have any problems. But now that we are not I have problems. I don't know what is missing in my life for real. Because as I told you it has to do with fortuneteller. Since I went there and she told me my future and most importantly that you CAN'T change it. I have this weird feeling like what is there to live for. If I need to suffer 3 more years before I meet my true love there is no point in trying to get another gf. Because I know if I get it something similar will happen as with my ex. So I rly don't look forward to anything because if future is already set and can't be altered than what is there to live for? If I wouldn't have gone to fortuneteller or even better if you can choose your own path then I wouldn't be so depressed about my ex because I would be 100% that I would get her back or even we wouldn't have broke up like we did (also she said it was probably because of this we broke up but I don't believe anything she says). So now if I know we won't be together and that fortuneteller told her she would go off with another guy, it is no point that I get back together with her. Because what if I get back together and then she leaves me for another man? Then my heart would be broken even more and I would worry about it all the time. I know I am so f***** up. And I went to a club with friends and I don't want to meet anyone there because everybody is drunk so no point in it. I just went with them and I danced with them and we had some fun together. Well it has been 4 months and I am still crying at night because I don't have her in my arms. So I am damaged rly good. And I really don't want to get over her and wait till I meet another women and it will be impossible because I know I will think about her and that isn't fair to the other girl. I have read many forums how the guy is married for 20 years has kids and he still thinks about his first love and would give for her everything. How would his wife feel about that? I know I would go and hang myself if the one I loved and be with for 20 years would think about someone from the past and he would mean more than me. What I love is speed. And even when I drive really fast I think about her but before I would enjoy in the speed and not think about anything. I also bought myself little dog so I can walk around with him and also this doesn't help. I am going to gym 4 days a week for 2 hours a day and also this doesn't help me. Fortuneteller f***** me big time and since that day I can't stop reading all this things about future and fortunetellers and everything it is making me insane. And only proof if she was wrong is for me to end my life and there won't be anything happening that she told me since I would be dead.
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