tbf Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Don't the direct quote, was more in the grand scheme of our debate. TBS harder how? That you have to shoo away a couple of pervs before you meet the guy your attracted and is attracted to you? Not too much of a trade off IMO.Who wants 1500 ding dongs if you only like twinkies?
iKING Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Who wants 1500 ding dongs if you only like twinkies? You could take said ding dongs and trade them to a dealer of sweets for an equal share of twinkies (whatever that conversion rate may be).
JourneyLady Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Most women, if they have male "friends" have several that want to be with them in some way, shape, or form, even if they don't outwardly express it. A week ago, I didn't think that was possible for me. Here I was trying to recover from last relationship, going NC with ex. Out of nowhere (it seemed to me) a guy I had been acquainted with only online at a distance for 5 years starts giving me lots of supportive feedback, cheering me up and I find myself developing a "thing" with him. It's long distance (at the moment), but he's wonderfully supportive and definitely nice and I could never have forseen in a hundred years he was/would have been interested in me. And just to follow up, I am "average" myself... Maybe somewhat less than average as I am older too, and on the heavy side... One extreme disadvantage is being much of an introvert - it just so happened that we met because of a group of people that share the same interest. Introverts don't necessarily have a large circle of friends where they might have potentials hanging around. So that should go into whatever equation as well. I certainly did not expect to find a potential someone so soon...
tbf Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 You could take said ding dongs and trade them to a dealer of sweets for an equal share of twinkies (whatever that conversion rate may be).The forex buy rate for twinkies is 10,500 ding dongs so this means that one would be 9000 short.
iKING Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 The forex buy rate for twinkies is 10,500 ding dongs so this means that one would be 9000 short. Per analysis finding a perfect mate is like finding a needle in a haystack. Math why hast thou diminished our hope? 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Per analysis finding a perfect mate is like finding a needle in a haystack. Math why hast thou diminished our hope? Nah, it's a 50-50 shot. Either you'll find your perfect mate or you won't.
iKING Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Nah, it's a 50-50 shot. Either you'll find your perfect mate or you won't. Tell that to me and everyone else I know who have been through about a million (give or take) relationships and have yet to find a perfect mate.
Anela Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 That's my point, If a woman is constantly flooded with attention from smucks, she will eventually start to automatically assume any guy that approaches her is a smuck. Hence your job got just got harder, because first you now have to convince her your not a smuck. You still have to connect with her, and do all the stuff you used to do, but you have this new step to do as well. Exactly! I thought about expanding on that, but I'm not in the mood.
fortyninethousand322 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Tell that to me and everyone else I know who have been through about a million (give or take) relationships and have yet to find a perfect mate. Ever flip a coin and keep getting tails? I hate it when that happens....
iKING Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Ever flip a coin and keep getting tails? I hate it when that happens.... Ah the dreaded biased coin. As if the almighty himself wants you to fail. The 50-50 proposition is actually more of a 51-49 proposition, if not worse. The sacred coin flip exhibits (at minimum) a whopping 1% bias.
ltjg45 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Who wants 1500 ding dongs if you only like twinkies? Now I want a Twinkie.
iKING Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Now I want a Twinkie. If you had said ding dong instead, I would've worried. This thread turned into utter shenanigans.
ltjg45 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 If you had said ding dong instead, I would've worried. This thread turned into utter shenanigans. Even if I wanted a ding dong, I couldn't see myself saying it with a straight face. Actually......this has gotten weird. Thanks a lot.
Monm82 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Women will always have more dating options than guys. Most average women want to find the right guy. A lot of average guys just want any moderately attractive woman who is into them. 1
ltjg45 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 By the way, what would you consider as a "smuck"? *Referring this to Lonely Ronin personally but anyone can answer*
iKING Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Noun Schmuck or shmuck in American English is a pejorative meaning an obnoxious, contemptible or detestable person, or one who is stupid or foolish.
ltjg45 Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Noun Schmuck or shmuck in American English is a pejorative meaning an obnoxious, contemptible or detestable person, or one who is stupid or foolish. Hmm..... .....that can't be me.....or is it? I don't know. I tend to be avoided so I guess it has some bearing to me, I guess.
Necris Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) I still stand by MY theory that guys all go after the same girls, goofy/weird looking guys would never settle for a goofy/weird looking girl. I approach goofy weird looking girls, and just because they maybe goofy doesn't mean she'll be interested, she still has her ideal guy in her mind and if you aren't him she'll reject you just like every other girl. People seem to automatically assume that guys who can't get girls are going after only the most desirable women, and ignoring the rest. What baffles me is why would you think a goofy weird looking girl be more interested in a guy that no other woman is interested in she'll reject him just like the rest. Same with "advice" people give to go after obese women, just because a woman is obese doesn't mean she'll find you attractive her weight has no bearing on how she feels about you. Edited March 8, 2013 by Necris
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I think the hidden assumption is that even though there are 17 girls who didn't pair off, some of them will later try to hook up with one or more of the top 3 guys in ONS/FWB fashion while waiting to find guys they (the girls) do want to pair off with. I don't see how else the math can work . . . No, the 17 extra girls have an all-girl orgy, which they video and distribute in order to lure the top .00001% of alpha male tall guys to their sides. Alpha guys all go bonkers for girl on girl sex. 3
iKING Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 No, the 17 extra girls have an all-girl orgy, which they video and distribute in order to lure the top .00001% of alpha male tall guys to their sides. Alpha guys all go bonkers for girl on girl sex. Whoa.. It's the roman era all over again.
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Women will always have more dating options than guys. Most average women want to find the right guy. A lot of average guys just want any moderately attractive woman who is into them. If a person's only requirements in a partner are that they are "moderately attractive and into them," then that person has NO business even thinking about getting into a relationship. You guys talk about "getting" a girlfriend as if it were similar to going out and buying a new shirt.
fortyninethousand322 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 If a person's only requirements in a partner are that they are "moderately attractive and into them," then that person has NO business even thinking about getting into a relationship. You guys talk about "getting" a girlfriend as if it were similar to going out and buying a new shirt. Why? I mean if you value being in a relationship with someone you may not be a good match for more than you value being lonely, and the other person values being in a relationship with you more than they do being lonely, who cares? There are far far worse things to be worried about. Besides, someone with that attitude (low standards) is probably never going to be in a relationship anyway, as there's a lot of overlap between people who have those opinions and those who are undesirable. Getting a girlfriend isn't like buying a shirt. It's like climbing Everest barefoot and shirtless, without extra oxygen. 1
Green Light Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Exactly! I thought about expanding on that, but I'm not in the mood. I can't expand when I'm not in the mood either.
GoodOnPaper Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 If a person's only requirements in a partner are that they are "moderately attractive and into them," then that person has NO business even thinking about getting into a relationship. You guys talk about "getting" a girlfriend as if it were similar to going out and buying a new shirt. what is a struggling guy to do, then? If he filters out everything but the ideal characteristics he wants in a woman, it would be months or years between even asking a woman out. Then multiply the cycle by 10 or 20X before one of these women says yes. That's no way to live. As far as the shirt analogy goes -- well, that's how the successful guys make it look. They pick out a woman at a bar or party, turn on the charm, talk way more suggestively than I could ever get away with having my looks, and go home with her.
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 what is a struggling guy to do, then? If he filters out everything but the ideal characteristics he wants in a woman, it would be months or years between even asking a woman out. There are light years of distance between looking for "only ideal characteristics" and being in an actual relationship with someone solely because they are "moderately attractive" and they seem to like you. That distance encompasses things such as actually liking a person; admiring them, respecting them, them reciprocating those things; being compatible, having good communication, shared values, "getting" each other, etc. Just because a person's "moderately attractive" doesn't have a damn thing to do with any of these things. Of course physical attraction is important, but no matter how "struggling" you think you are, simply finding a person moderately attractive will not be a foundation for any kind of relationship.
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