Woggle Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I see a lot of comments who say that a woman would never sacrifice her life like that guy did in the Aurora shooting and her is proof that some women do. Hero mother of three pushed husband of 42 years to safety before she was struck and killed by 'drunken driver' | Mail Online 3
RudeAndNotGinger Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Anyone who genuinely believes that simply never watches the news. And is also sexist.
gaius Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I think I'd rather get hit by a car than have news headlines about how my wife pushed me to safety. 5
TaraMaiden Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 And the GUY who jumped from a hot-air balloon when it burst into flames - but left his wife behind? (He survived, she died). What did he think, that she would follow suit? Forget the common phrase "Women and children first!" It's "Every man for himself!"
Author Woggle Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 I think I'd rather get hit by a car than have news headlines about how my wife pushed me to safety. True but a common complaint I here from men on here is that woman don't really love their partners and this article clearly shows an exception. 1
MidwestUSA Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Love is dragging him into the path with you because neither of you can live without the other.
Soxfaninfl Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I see a lot of comments who say that a woman would never sacrifice her life like that guy did in the Aurora shooting and her is proof that some women do. Hero mother of three pushed husband of 42 years to safety before she was struck and killed by 'drunken driver' | Mail Online It should have been the other way around in this situation. The sad part is my ex wife wouldn't have cared if I did it for her.
crude Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 It should have been the other way around in this situation. The sad part is my ex wife wouldn't have cared if I did it for her. Why should it have been the other way around? The woman loved her husband and had the chance to save him. Would you make it illegal for a woman to love her husband. Very few love their men , instead of praising a rare one who does, you make it sound like her selfless instinct was somehow wrong. And to Woggle, it wasn't 1 guy. 4 died shielding their girlfriends, 2 others got wounded draped over a woman, the black teenager who got wounded was arguably shielding that woman whose BF ran, and another guy might've blocked an aisle with his body to shield a woman and died. There might even be more.
Soxfaninfl Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Why should it have been the other way around? The woman loved her husband and had the chance to save him. Would you make it illegal for a woman to love her husband. Very few love their men , instead of praising a rare one who does, you make it sound like her selfless instinct was somehow wrong. I would never want the women I love to sacrifice herself for me if I was in danger. Her life would be worth more than mine.
xxoo Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Wow, they'd been married 42 years, and she was only 58! And still so beautiful, too. Tragic event, but it sounds like they had a blessed life together. IMO, their years together are the best testament of her love for her husband--not her death. 1
Disenchantedly Yours Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I see a lot of comments who say that a woman would never sacrifice her life like that guy did in the Aurora shooting and her is proof that some women do. Hero mother of three pushed husband of 42 years to safety before she was struck and killed by 'drunken driver' | Mail Online I think the story is heartbreaking but shows unselfish love. I think the way you are presenting the story is bullcrap and petty. Now all the guys that whined that men saved their female partners can feel better because this woman sacrificed her life for her husband? Really? Something about this seems entirely jacked up. The only way certain men can feel okay with other men sacrificing their life for their partner is if other women do the same? These people, men or women, that have died to safe someone they love could teach a lot of us what real love is. It isn't keeping a 6 O'Clock News Scorecard about how many men and how many women risk their lives for someone they love.
serial muse Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 IMO, their years together are the best testament of her love for her husband--not her death. Totally agree! I found this whole thread surreal, from the part where we need an example of a woman actually sacrificing her life in order to prove her love (!!!), to the part where people actually believe most women don't love the guys they're with , to the part where guys say they wouldn't want a woman to sacrifice herself for him anyway...not because they don't want her to die but because it's emasculating? Only on LS. Never change.
Soxfaninfl Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 the part where guys say they wouldn't want a woman to sacrifice herself for him anyway...not because they don't want her to die but because it's emasculating? Only on LS. Never change. That's bull****! Emasculating??? Are you kidding me!!! I loved my wife more than I loved myself. I valued her life more than my own than mine.
serial muse Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 That's bull****! Emasculating??? Are you kidding me!!! I loved my wife more than I loved myself. I valued her life more than my own than mine. Obviously, I wasn't referring to you. So, chillax. 1
crude Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 There are different factors here. If 400 out 1000 men would be willing to sacrifice for their wives and girlfriends, but only .1 women would do the same, isn't that worth mentioning? On the other hand, the emasculation guys who could never live it down are bizarre. If a woman truly loves a man and her instinct is to save him, what are you gonna do, condemn her as a Feminazi and say you're glad she's dead because she assumed a man's role?
BetheButterfly Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I see a lot of comments who say that a woman would never sacrifice her life like that guy did in the Aurora shooting and her is proof that some women do. Hero mother of three pushed husband of 42 years to safety before she was struck and killed by 'drunken driver' | Mail Online Thanks for sharing Woggle It would have been awesome to have met Teresa Marquard. She sounds like an awesome Wife and Mom!!! True love is giving and selfless, and it is so beautiful how her first thought during an emergency was for her husband. 42 years married!!! Wow!!! I am so sad for the loss and pain that her family is suffering due to the actions of a drunk driver and I very much hope they feel comforted in her love, spite of the pain of missing her.
Soxfaninfl Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Obviously, I wasn't referring to you. So, chillax. I'm sorry! I loved my wife soo much. Eventhough she left me and put me through hell, my love for her has never dwindled. She was the love of my life. My everything. I'm crying as I write this. It still hurts to this day how she couldn't see how much I loved and always will love her. Edited February 28, 2013 by Soxfaninfl
serial muse Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 There are different factors here. If 400 out 1000 men would be willing to sacrifice for their wives and girlfriends, but only .1 women would do the same, isn't that worth mentioning? On the other hand, the emasculation guys who could never live it down are bizarre. If a woman truly loves a man and her instinct is to save him, what are you gonna do, condemn her as a Feminazi and say you're glad she's dead because she assumed a man's role? Well, leaving aside the made-up statistics for a second, you're assuming all things being equal when it comes to the choice for sacrifice, which they clearly aren't, because (as we see in this thread) there are societal forces at play. For example, I would venture that this particular paradigm (men more expected to lay down their lives for family than women) isn't global. Thus, it isn't genetic; it's societally driven. Again, I point you to the responses in this very thread. But back to logic. As I said, those are made-up stats that you plucked out of the air because you're already convinced that men love more than women, so none of this is really worth rational argument anyway. I don't know why you believe that women love less than men; I assume you have some personal history that you are extrapolating to the global. But if the only true proof of love, in your book, is dying for your SO, then I highly recommend the Lifetime movie channel. It's got the melodrama you're looking for.
Author Woggle Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 I just simply wanted to post a thread about a woman performing a selfless act for her partner instead of the usual back and forth sniping we see on here. Believe me in no way was it meant to say that I am glad she is dead or any of that. I am actually trying to prove the misogynists wrong.
Soxfaninfl Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Well, leaving aside the made-up statistics for a second, you're assuming all things being equal when it comes to the choice for sacrifice, which they clearly aren't, because (as we see in this thread) there are societal forces at play. For example, I would venture that this particular paradigm (men more expected to lay down their lives for family than women) isn't global. Thus, it isn't genetic; it's societally driven. Again, I point you to the responses in this very thread. But back to logic. As I said, those are made-up stats that you plucked out of the air because you're already convinced that men love more than women, so none of this is really worth rational argument anyway. I don't know why you believe that women love less than men; I assume you have some personal history that you are extrapolating to the global. But if the only true proof of love, in your book, is dying for your SO, then I highly recommend the Lifetime movie channel. It's got the melodrama you're looking for. The statistics show that women file for divorce more than men. "According to a study published in the American Law and Economics Review, women have filed slightly more than two-thirds of divorce cases in the United States.There is some variation among states, and the numbers have also varied over time, with about 60% of filings by women in most of the 19th century, and over 70% by women in some states just after no fault divorce was introduced, according to the paper. Evidence is given that among college-educated couples, the percentages of divorces initiated by women is approximately 90%."
man_in_the_box Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Do you think you could give your life for your loved one when the situation would present itself? I don't think any of us can be sure - humans tend to react different from what they would expect themselves when suddenly faced with the real situation. Some for the better, some for the worse. Instinct takes over... 1
runningfar Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 The statistics show that women file for divorce more than men. "According to a study published in the American Law and Economics Review, women have filed slightly more than two-thirds of divorce cases in the United States.There is some variation among states, and the numbers have also varied over time, with about 60% of filings by women in most of the 19th century, and over 70% by women in some states just after no fault divorce was introduced, according to the paper. Evidence is given that among college-educated couples, the percentages of divorces initiated by women is approximately 90%." Filing doesn't mean you're the cause or even necessarily the one who pushed for divorce. I filed. My ex husband asked for the divorce. A man cheating might push a woman to file. That jives with the more files by college educated women, they feel better able to take care of themselves single in that situation verse put up with cheating because they are afraid of how they and their kids will live. Not saying that's every case... Just saying that who filed, is meaningless.
Soxfaninfl Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Filing doesn't mean you're the cause or even necessarily the one who pushed for divorce. I filed. My ex husband asked for the divorce. A man cheating might push a woman to file. That jives with the more files by college educated women, they feel better able to take care of themselves single in that situation verse put up with cheating because they are afraid of how they and their kids will live. Not saying that's every case... Just saying that who filed, is meaningless. Not in my case. I didn't believe in divorce. I forgave my ex for quitting on us and cheating, but she still filed for divorce.
Janesays Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Filing doesn't mean you're the cause or even necessarily the one who pushed for divorce. I filed. My ex husband asked for the divorce. A man cheating might push a woman to file. That jives with the more files by college educated women, they feel better able to take care of themselves single in that situation verse put up with cheating because they are afraid of how they and their kids will live. Not saying that's every case... Just saying that who filed, is meaningless. Seconded. My ex DEMANDED the divorce. I was the one who filed even though I didn't want a divorce, but I had no choice since he was leaving me for another woman. However, He said he didn't want pay the fee for filing, so I had to.
Eternal Sunshine Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Do you think you could give your life for your loved one when the situation would present itself? I don't think any of us can be sure - humans tend to react different from what they would expect themselves when suddenly faced with the real situation. Some for the better, some for the worse. Instinct takes over... I know that there are people in my life that I would sacrifice my life for. It has never been "tested" and I hope it never does but I know what you mean.
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