Author Leigh 87 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 And also - he has a thin for petite girls with breasts and long hair.... and you know, nice teeth and skin help you to be attracted to your own type of girl... When we met I was 110 lbs and 5 '5 with a very curvy build nd large boobs, and he also liked being around me. He found me to be different and he was interested in getting to know me more. I guess back THEN I fulfilled his physical ideal, and it is that hard to find a super slim girl who is also curvy, who is pretty to you, and who you like to be around. I think it is rare for women to be the way I once was - you know, quiet thin looking with curves and a face he also liked, in addition to a ncie personality.... He is a guy who really prefers thin girls, and I CAN TELL he is the type who still settles for curvier and normal sized girls, in spite of his true attraction to smaller girls.... Maybe he had enough of settling for girls he was not very attracted to, and went after me, the type he truly likes? (I have gained 16 - 20 lbs since we met, so I doubt he would pay good money to sleep with me no anyway)
Author Leigh 87 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 I just think he wants to have sex with "you" at all cost... if he just wanted to get laid he can go to the local hoe for much less than 1500$.. He has always liked me since we met. He is only sexually attracted to thin girls; put it this way, a normal sized girl would have to be pretty damn hot, as in a super model, for him to be attracted to her sexually. I was super slim when we met, and he also found me cute/pretty; he had never managed to find a girl who fit his very strict physical criteria, and who is also liked a lot as a person.. He was sort of... taken aback that he met a girl like me online, who was really thin and he also liked a lot. I think he was annoyed I did not see him again after. I think he has to lower his standards, and.... I mean geez, is it THAT hard for guys who like thin girls, to settle for a normal sized girl:mad: OR, maybe get a thin girl who is not pretty, but he falls for because of her personality? I wonder how this guy can be happy in the end? Perhaps he can just wait and have sex with girls he is not attracted to until the right girl comes along?
Author Leigh 87 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 Sadly, I got the feeling he genuinely is not attracted to most girls who are available to him. That is just he general feeling I get from him, I could be wrong. My reaction was: sorry, my boyfriend is worth way more than 1500 dollars" Another guy asked me to strip for him, a year or so ago, and he had a girlfriend at the time!? He was not that good looking and his girlfriend would not be considered hot to very many guys; she would be considered unattractive to the majority of men. She was overweight and not attractive to him, where as I was his physical type (he prefered thin blondes with big breasts) My boyfriend and I had a threesome or two in our relationship, before we got serious, but he never did it because he was not attracted to me, and needed to find girls who he was attracted to... I am not being a hypocrite then, when I think he was wrong for being with a girl he as not physically attracted to... That was the driving force behind him wanting me to strip for him. ......Another annoying thing is: I am a good girl, and I do not sleep around or casually hook up, so I have no idea where those guys got the impression I would do it!? They said I sounded "open" to that sort of thing, because I had a threesome before. Oh well I have blocked both guys and am not going to tell ANY more men anything about my sexual past, it is totally not appropriate, I need to change and NOT be so open to guys about my sex life.
Author Leigh 87 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 I just wanted to add - it was wrong of ME to even have told any men that I had a threesome; the subect of sex came up and they ended up finding out I had a threesome. It was my fault they thought I was the type of girl who would strip and sleep with them for money, but I DID have a boyfriend at the time. Just because I was too open about my sex life, it does not mean I sleep around... I was inappropriate by talking to guys about my sex life, but I still have dignity and integrity, and I DO NOT cheat on people. It seams that the fact I was "open" about sexual things, led them to believe I would just cheat on my long term boyfriend?!?!?!? Is there some stupid correlation between girls who are open about the subject of sex, and girls who cheat and lie? I have always liked talking about sex, but I do not sleep around, and I would never cheat.... I think thew guy was a jerk, the one who had a girlfriend.... It happened recently again too at a party a few months back, when i guy had a girlfriend, and yet still wanted to have sex with me?!?!?!?!!!!! I feel so sorry for those girls. Luckily one of the guys who wanted to be intimate with me has no broken up with his girlfriend! Yay for her. I hope she finds a guy who is crazy about her and is sexually attracted to her too!
Author Leigh 87 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 Animal lover - I have been told I am too nice to guys. When guys want to be intimate with me, I should tell them to go away! Instead, I say " thanks but I love my boyfriend, please have a think about what your doing" I guess I should not be nice or friendly to guys who try to have sex with me?! I always want to teach them a lesson and explain to them that hey, maybe they should not be with their girlfriend if they want to go and have sex with other people they meet at parties. And please keep my own relationship out of this discussion; my boyfriend and I had a few threesomes before we got into a serious relationship, he does not go around wanting to have sex with girls he meets at parties or clubs... I need to ignore guys and tell them to GO AWAY!
sid3 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Your subjective 'hotness' has become a recurring theme among your posts. I'd guess any external validation you obtain from certain replies is only a temporary fix. I'm betting there are some deep seated self esteem issues that really need to be addressed. 3
Author Leigh 87 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 I also want to add - my boyfriend gets VERY upset because some of his friends have even tried to kiss or have sex with me! All because: I am very caring and nice to people, even guys, and they thought that I was being too nice..... I treated them how I treat all people, and they got the wrong message... My boyfriend is very sick and tired of guys trying to have sex with me. It is so different for him! Guys do not normally have girls asking them to have sex, I would be upset if he also had girls who tried to have sex with him! I try to put myself in his position; i would be annoyed too... He is happy that I am honest with him; I have told him about every time a guy has tried anything with me. .................................. We have both agreed that from now on, I simply cannot let my caring nature lead guys to think I want them. ALSO - I can NOT talk about sex with any men, because it is inappropriate. Unless I am sitting around with my good friend and her boyfriend, who is also my friend. They are really in love and want to get married, and we happen like talk about sex occasionally...
Author Leigh 87 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 Your subjective 'hotness' has become a recurring theme among your posts. I'd guess any external validation you obtain from certain replies is only a temporary fix. I'm betting there are some deep seated self esteem issues that really need to be addressed. Not really. I have found it interesting how one can think I am attractive, while another one thinks I am ugly. It is interesting. ..I do not have any self esteem issues right now that would hinder me from having a great life, so I am not worried. I do not go around thinking that I do not deserve to be happy, or have a loving boyfriend, or anything like that... I associate bad self esteem with women who put up with men who do not like or care about them much, but stay with them because they do not think they can do better... And insofar as talking about my looks - there is no way in hell I would carry on about what I look like to people I talk to in my real life; I want to be pleasant to be around, not some person who bores people by talking about their looks, or themselves too much... This is why the internet is great.. you can talk about things that you would not talk about with people in real life. I am sort of over the shock that you can be ugly to some and hot to others. I do find it interesting though how, for instance; the girl, who's boyfriend wanted me - she was truly not good looking, and I cannot see any many guys thinking she was a hot babe. Where as with me, I always do have guys who tend to find me "hot" to them... I truly do think there are women who do not have many guys at all who see them as "hot" or "attractive" I feel lucky that I am at least attractive to some people. At least I have hopes of easily finding a guy who is attracted to me and also loves me in a relationship. I would actually find it hard living the life some women do, where very few men, if at all, actually find them attractive at all.
TaraMaiden Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 A propos of no-one or nothing at all... I'm just wondering if it's true that everything DOES have a price. If someone were to hand me £600 to go to bed with them, I'd be as insulted and horrified as has been indicated in this thread.... But if some guy came up with £35,000 and handed it over, and said - now have sex with me - I confess, that would be very useful.... (Trust me, not that anyone would!) It reminds me of the joke.... Man and lady having an animated jovial discussion in a bar.... He says: "Tell me, if I offered you $5,000,000 would you consider having sex with me?" She smiles coyly, and lowers her lashes.... "Sounds interesting, " she murmurs.... "You have that in mind....?" "Well, he replies, "I was thinking more in the line of $200..... Indignantly, she sharply retorts - "Hey buster! What kind of a woman do you think I am - ?!?" "That, we have established, " he responds, conspiratorially, "Now we're just negotiating a price....."
Els Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Leigh, I am in no way doubting how hot you are, but don't you find it worrisome that TWO guys whom you personally know (you have mentioned two - are there more?) have propositioned you for sexual services in exchange for money? I dunno, I know several really, really hot girls, and none of their friends have ever tried that with them! I don't think this is about your hotness at all, and I'm concerned that you think that is the main point in all of this. Those two guys were extremely messed up to do that. And you need to think about why, really, such a messed up guy would say something like that to you: Could it be vibes that you give out? I'm not saying you act like a whore, obviously, but perhaps you seem insecure enough that they think you, of all girls, might consider being asked for sex in exchange for money to be flattery? 1
xxoo Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 We have both agreed that from now on, I simply cannot let my caring nature lead guys to think I want them. ALSO - I can NOT talk about sex with any men, because it is inappropriate. Sounds like a good start. Boundaries, Leigh! Being offered sex for money is not flattery. These guys view you as a whore. 1
Els Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Also, one curious question, since you mentioned your bf being the reason you wouldn't do it. If you had been single would you have taken up the offer?
man_in_the_box Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Another guy asked me to strip for him, a year or so ago, and he had a girlfriend at the time!? He was not that good looking and his girlfriend would not be considered hot to very many guys; she would be considered unattractive to the majority of men. She was overweight and not attractive to him, where as I was his physical typek (he prefered thin blondes with big breasts) I think you have a very clinical and cold approach to relationship dynamics Tbh. Men that sollicitate other women for sex or stripteases while they are in an exclusive relationship do that irrrelevant of how attractive their partner is/they perceive. Its just because that's how they are. Similarly men that are really committed also don't suddenly drop their morals if their selected partner isn't exactly the bees knees. Many of us aren't that subjected to our primitive instincts. 3
Revolver Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Men paying for sex(or prostitution)is something that will never ever stop.
Author Leigh 87 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Elswyth and Animalover - Thanks for your concern, I am concerned! My boyfriends OWN FRIENDS and one guy that was around him at a party, have tried to ... well, have sex or kiss me. I will briefely tell you how it happened with each guy, just a quick run down.. Maybe you can help me figure out how I can stop this from happening again: - first friend: good friend of my boyfriend for 6 years. Lets call him " idiot" LOL.....He just broke up with his long term girlfriend and was depressed and upset about it. They were fighting om the phone. I was sleeping at his house with my boyfriend. I was in under pants and a teeshirt, and went to the kitchen to get a drink. I did not know " idiot" would be there. He was screaming on the phone to his "girlfriend" who he was in the process of breaking up with. When he hung up, I said " are you okay, that sounds nasty, I am sure yelling on the phone will only make things worse" idiot says: " your right, your right.." me: " do you want to sit down, and talk about it?" idiot: " yeah.. actually that might be nice, I am pretty messed up right now" He acted like NO GIRL had ever acted this friendly or nice towards him. I WAS in my underpants and tee shirt, but so what, I honestly did not think it was a very big deal? MISTAKE ONE. Some guys are just hornbags who cannot control themselves I guess! I sat down next to him, and I treated him the same way I have treated ALL my friends and people who I have tried to comfort. He eventually says " Leigh, no girl has ever been like this before.." At one stage he cried, so I patted his leg with my hand, to go " there there, it's okay!" Then he leaned forward and tried to kiss me. .............................................. OF COURSE I immediately dodged him.. He then says: SORRY sorry sorry PLEASE do NOT tell your boyfriend! He is a best friend, I have just lost my long term girlfriend, I do not want to lose your boyfriend too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He made me PROMISE to not tell my boyfriend, who was fast asleep in the bedroom nearby:sick: Man, I tried to keep it a secret because i do NOT like getting other people in trouble; I HATE causing drama. Of course my boyfriend found out. He knew something was up. I would have told him anyway. I couldn't have kept it to myself. I was not trying to be a bad person - I just hate getting people into trouble. "idiot" denied doing it, and he went around telling everyone that I am such an ugly girl, and that he would never touch me with a 20 foot pole. .................................................................................................... Lesson: do not act nice to guys or comfort them or give them any reason to mistakenly think they can kiss me or make any sort of sexual advances on me!!!!!!!!!!!! This is all very upsetting, because I am quiet a nice person, and I like to comfort and help people who are upset!!!!!!!!!!!!
Author Leigh 87 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Idiot and my boyfriend are no longer friends, obviously. My boyfriend just stopped talking to him altogether. No explnatation, he just stopped talking. Idiot tried incessantly ringing my bf too.... ONE more example I will give: One guy who did not know my boyfriend, and who was in a long term relationship with a girl who was GOOD FRIENDS with my boyfriend. The guy, " fred" sees me at a party. He realises he is not that happy with his girlfriend, and he decides that I am his type. He talks to me for a few minutes and says that he has been looking at me and following me around all night, because he wants me. I explain to him that if he feels that way (not that I believed it was necesarily true I might add) I said he should not be with his girlfriend, if he feels this strongly about other girls. He said " your right, you have made me realise this (that he is obviously NOT crazy enough about his poor girlfriend....) MY MISTAKE: I still talked to him, and tried to just change the subject when he turned things sexual. BIG BIG MISTAKE. Next time I KNOW I need to just walk away, and say, " I have a boyfriend, and it is inappropriate for us to talk" .......................................... The main motivation I had for talking to him was: I wanted him to see that his girlfriend deserves to find a guy who is crazy about her! GRRRRR I am sad to say that this guy is still with his girlfriend! My boyfriend TOLD "freds" girlfriend about him. Then I saw his girlfriend at a party, and I felt SO awkward; I confronted her and tried to be very nice. I told her that I loved my boyfriend very much, and had NO intention of making any moves on her boyfriend, "fred" I apologised, saying " you must have felt terrible about the situation, I am very sorry that I happened to be part of it" She was TOTALLY nice to me! She just said " yeah it's fine Leigh:) I am not mad at you at all, and regarding "fred", I will just keep him on a tighter leash" :sick: GEEZ what a great relationship, she has to keep an EYE on her jerk of a boyfriend, to ensure he does not go off with another girl. WORST BIT: the night he wanted to have sex with me, he rang his girlfriend, to get a lift home. She always picks him up when he has a night out:sick: Just WOW. I feel sorry that she is with him.
RachR Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I never said I thought I was super hot. That is not why I think he asked me. I think he asked me, because to HIM I am hot ( I do not think I am some model who all guys want) and I am a decent girl also; he cannot find any girls like me who want a casual sex arrangement or FWB. He wouldnt have paid that much I doubt, he was just trying to convince me to DO it after I said no way, I have a boyfriend.... There is no need to act shocked that some guys actually find me hot. Lol dude, wtf? Where did I even reference your looks? o_O My post had nothing to do with whether you are "hot."
sid3 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Lol dude, wtf? Where did I even reference your looks? o_O My post had nothing to do with whether you are "hot." I've yet to see a self proclaimed "hot chick" that was anything but. Staying on topic, as always, I'd suggest being offered a :love:mere $1,500 should be considered extremely offensive. I've paid more for dinner with my friends.
hppr Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Yes it is that hard if the guy doesn't have a lot of free time or is very shy/not into partying, not a social butterfly. Also he may not think that he's cute or even do-able looking, he may think that he's hideous simply because of his difficulties in finding a woman to have a relationship with.
hppr Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Just WOW. I feel sorry that she is with him. Why? She obviously chooses to be with him. Some women really get turned on by jerky guys, maybe they figure it's better than being with a nice but boring nerdy guy or something who knows.
Author Leigh 87 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 I've yet to see a self proclaimed "hot chick" that was anything but. Staying on topic, as always, I'd suggest being offered a :love:mere $1,500 should be considered extremely offensive. I've paid more for dinner with my friends. Look, I am not winning any beauty contests, but I am hot to some people. I am treated like I am attractive IN GENERAL by society around me. I am not treated like I am some ugly or plain girl (to the majority of men). I am not commonly overlooked by the "hot" guys the way totally ugly or universally "butter face" girls are. I have friends like that and I get 100% more male interest than they do. I am just an average/cute girl who is hot to some, and not to others; but I do get noticed by enough men to not be ugly to the "majority". Sheesh. Get over it. I am not saying I think I am that hot; I am sayin that I do not get ignored or overlooked by men, and if I was single, I would not have an issue getting attractive men to date me.
Author Leigh 87 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Why? She obviously chooses to be with him. Some women really get turned on by jerky guys, maybe they figure it's better than being with a nice but boring nerdy guy or something who knows. He joked to me that she did the chasing... He moved to a remote mining town, totally accross the country to where he is from; the girl followed him over there I think, and tried to start something. He didn't turn her down. He obviously liked her enough. I think that she liked or even loves him:sick: too much to accept that he has and WILL continue to seek out girls who he is more into, and go after them for sex or possibly a relationship. I could not stand it if every time my partner went out, I would worry about wheather or not he found a "better" girl than me, that he would possibly try to have sex with:sick: I never get a bad gut feeling about my partner and I just know he would not get around with other people. I could not be with a guy who i felt I had to " watch" carefully:sick: I mean... I dunno. Maybe some people hate being single, and like being in a relationship so much, that they would rather risk it with a guy who has shown genuine interest in being with other women; it is better than being alone to them.... All I can say is: I DOUBT she gets off over it! I think she just prefers to be in a relationship, than to be single and OR she is too invested in him to let him go.... I have yet to meet a women who gets off over men who are jerks to them.....
snowflakes88 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Look, I am not winning any beauty contests, but I am hot to some people. I am treated like I am attractive IN GENERAL by society around me. I am not treated like I am some ugly or plain girl (to the majority of men). I am not commonly overlooked by the "hot" guys the way totally ugly or universally "butter face" girls are. I have friends like that and I get 100% more male interest than they do. I am just an average/cute girl who is hot to some, and not to others; but I do get noticed by enough men to not be ugly to the "majority". Sheesh. Get over it. I am not saying I think I am that hot; I am sayin that I do not get ignored or overlooked by men, and if I was single, I would not have an issue getting attractive men to date me. The point is that no one questioned your looks or your "hotness." You seem VERY insecure about your looks and are going on and on and on and on and on about how some hot guys find you hot and blahblahblah when no one even questioned that or brought it up. You're the one who should get over it. I've seen you post this same thing over and over again in thread after thread. Some guys find you hot. We get it. Great. 1
Author Leigh 87 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 The point is that no one questioned your looks or your "hotness." You seem VERY insecure about your looks and are going on and on and on and on and on about how some hot guys find you hot and blahblahblah when no one even questioned that or brought it up. You're the one who should get over it. I've seen you post this same thing over and over again in thread after thread. Some guys find you hot. We get it. Great. Your right. I have a bad nose and feel cr@ppy about it. But in general, I feel pretty happy with the way I look, because I am healthy and have decent guys want to date me (not that I want them, since I am in a relationship). I am sorry I misunderstood you guys, it is just a few people on here have been a little shocked and in disbelief that guys in real life actually can find me hot; you know, they basically call me dellusional, when they are actually strangers over the internet who have no idea of how guys treat me in real life. I guess that annoyed me, and I thought you were also in doubt that many men in real life would actually find me attractive. You know - I would get it, if I had terrible skin and shocking teeth... but I do not see why some people on here have been shocked that some guys find me attractive in real life. That is all pretty much.
Author Leigh 87 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 And pertaining to the original topic: I am not sure if I would have taken the guys money. I am a good person and I do not sleep around or have casual sex with various men normally. I am also poor and try desperately to get even basic food server jobs but fail to find ANY sort of employment, despite having experience in the retail and hospitality industries, and the fact I am good at and enjoy workin in customer service orientated positions.... I am too old for most menial jobs, and by my age they expect me to be a manager or to not need training due to being old enough to " just know how to do everything myself" I guess I am desperate for work, and I know I am a good person ( I do not lie, steal, or gossip about pepole behind their backs) I would probably agree to spend sexual time with him if he turned out to be normal and nice and was simply down on his luck, and was doing me a favour while I did him a favour. I do not care if it is considered prostitution really.. it is not like I sleep around or am a bad person in general. You gotta do what you gotta do to feed yourself sometimes. My parents help me out when welfare runs out, but I hate having to ask them for any money. I would have spent time with this guy for money, but I would not have slept with any other guys whilst sleeping with that guy; I do not sleep with multiple people at once:sick: I would have: used this guy for money, made sure we both had a good time around each other, and use him until I met the right guy for me to be with. I have always thought I would have a FWB if I were to become single again! I mean, I would not want to sleep around, but at the same time, i would not want to go without sex for a year or two - which is how long it would probably take to find a guy worthy of trying to have a long term relationship with (you know, a guy who is really into me, and who I also am really interested in!) If the guy could afford to pay me I would... probably do it a few times for money.
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