Lonely Ronin Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I find this thread amusing. Yea, It's starting to fill up recently with retarded Bro logic.......
Revolver Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) It's very simple Men try to get exclusive with girls they really like very quickly. The only girls who wait forever for that title of GF are ones that they deem mediocre and are on the fence about. He might eventually get exclusive with her but that's usually after finding out the girl he really is interested in doesnt want him. Edited February 28, 2013 by Revolver 1
ltjg45 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Nope men aren't programmed to NEED women. Your programming is screwed up. We're programmed to "Want" Players are programmed to "Want" because they are merely fishing and, even if they can't find one they want to settle with, they are fine with that. Men who desires commitment is programmed to "Need". That is why we are still looking 15 years after we first got started. Not all men are the same. Men dont NEED women... we want Women NEED security... they are miserable with out it That would imply that all men and women is the same. Which that is CLEARLY false. Stop lumping everyone of the same gender in the same category/stereotype. You want a women. I need a women. We are different. Regardless if I succeed or not doesn't change this. You date just to have fun. I date to find commitment to a woman. 1
CptSaveAho Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Credit to you Cpt for the title lol. You and the other guy are spining this into a don't need a woman but want one when that's not what this thread is about; Nor is it what asking to be exclusive is about. It's human nature to want a companion of the opposite sex. Yes, just becasue you are exclusive doesn't mean he/she won't cheat so thank you for stating the obvious. I'm not opposed to a woman asking to being exclusive before I do, I don't think I mentioned that earlier. But why is that not the mans job? It's part of progressing the relationship IMO. To go buy the rule of not asking first on purpose becuase if you do she'll launch like she was shot out of a cannon is down right silly to me. I think it takes more balls to ask first then to wait for the woman to bring it up! Keep in mind I'm talking about a time frame of 2-3 months here not like some sprung sap asking for it after 3 dates lol Try it, see how it works out for you.... stop theory crafting and date a girl for 3 months and see what happens.... report back to us
harnold Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I often wonder why many men and women don't ask questions or state thier dating goals early on in a courtship. Men are told to keep their mouths shut, ufck first and ask questions last for lack of a better term. Don't reveal any feelings or ask to be exclusive first becuase if you do all you'll see is a smoke trail. I don't understand this? I don't want to have to "back door" my way into a relationship by playing dumb and waiting for her to bring up the exlcusive talk. IMO an emotionally healty woman who had the same goals wouldn't ghost if a man told her he was looking for a relationship. TBS why are us men told NOT to do this? Am I missing something here? Yes I understand coming on too strong but I don't buy into the be a challenge/mysterious BS dating games. Thoughts on this?? lol that is my modus operandi
Author SJC2008 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Posted February 28, 2013 Try it, see how it works out for you.... stop theory crafting and date a girl for 3 months and see what happens.... report back to us As soon as I start dating again I will and I'll be happy to report the good/bad news, whatever it is!
dasein Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Time for the semantics "needs" repost. There are exactly three needs for human life, food, clothing, shelter. Maslow was trying to sell psychotherapy so ignore his hierarchy. Everything else is a desire.
ltjg45 Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 You NEED a woman and due to your NEED, I bet you have dated some real "gems" and took a lot of abuse as well. Example, you are getting the heisman from the Russian girl living with your mom and still believe she wants to date you but waiting for you to get a job. Assumptions is the mother of all ****-ups. She already moved on and I respect that. It's not like there wasn't a few red flags that I can't ignore. You are not even a Man yet and have little to no experience in dating so who died and made you the expert? No one. All I needed to do is to find out what I want/need and to go get it. I certainly don't need you getting in my way. With this attitude, mindset and approach to dating / relationships / love... You are going to attached your wagon to any women who will or will not have you regardless if she is worthy of it and it won't matter if she treats you like dog crap she scrapes off the bottom of her shoe. Keep dreaming. There you go again with assumptions. I will not be used as dog crap. I got enough of that from my mother. Besides, I see you got far more hatred towards relationships than I do. No wonder you got this stance. Let me guess: You promote this male lifestyle of stinging along women for sex, correct? I have a hard time believing otherwise that you are looking for commitment since you are out there looking for perfection otherwise you will drop her like a hot rock. Your cold-hearted stance tells me plenty in that regard. And if this is what you call "being a man", to hell with it.
clia Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I often wonder why many men and women don't ask questions or state thier dating goals early on in a courtship. Men are told to keep their mouths shut, ufck first and ask questions last for lack of a better term. Don't reveal any feelings or ask to be exclusive first becuase if you do all you'll see is a smoke trail. This sounds like PUA stuff. Who's telling you to do this? Every man I've ever had an exclusive/boyfriend/girlfriend (I don't see a difference between these, but apparently some folks around here do) relationship with has brought it up to me first within a month. IIn my experience, the men who really were interested are dying to take me off the market so they know I'm not dating anyone else. IMO an emotionally healty woman who had the same goals wouldn't ghost if a man told her he was looking for a relationship. They won't! You are absolutely right about this. But if you do it too soon, it can be a little strange. (I mean people who want to be exclusive after like one date.) I think a few weeks or a month (or later), provided you are seeing eachother a couple of times a week is fine. You should know if she is on the same page. There is no reason to play games, and if you are with the right person and she is feeling it too, this discussion will last about 15 seconds and you will both be beaming and happy at the end of it. For me exclusivity is IMPLIED from the very first moment I begin to date a woman... No offense, but I think this is such a strange and unreasonable viewpoint. Does this actually work for you in real life? So, let me give you a hypothetical. Say you and I are both on OkCupid. A guy, X, sends me a message on Tuesday and he and I start chatting. You send me a message on Thursday and we start chatting. I talk with both of you for about a week, and make a date to meet X on the following Tuesday and you on the following Thursday. I go out with X on Tuesday and have a good time. I'd like to see him again. I go out with you on Thursday and have a good time. I'd like to see you again. Both of you I've only known for about a week. Both of you seem nice and it seems like there might be something there, but since I've only known you about a week, I don't know which one of you I like better. Are you saying that after our Thursday date you would consider us exclusive and it would be unacceptable for me to go on another date with X? (I'm not talking about sex -- I'm talking about drinks, dinner, etc.) 1
clia Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I usually date women I already know for a while since I am VERY picky and not only about the looks. I see. So are you friends first then? Because I guess your position is more reasonable if you already know the woman quite well before you take her on the date. It sounds like you don't even take her a date until you've decided you want to be exclusive?
Lonely Ronin Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I'm with animal on this, I'm actually harsher than him in some ways I bet, and less so in others. I don't do old(thought I'm about to), and I usually end up dating women I have just meet, or know very casually. I Only date one woman at a time, and while I don't expect her to do the same initially, she has a limited period of time(handful of dates) to do so or I will walk. I'm also really strict about seeing strong interest from the woman early on as well. Depending on the woman she has 1 to maybe 5 or 6 dates, to start showing strong interest in me or I will walk. By that I mean: 1. initiating contact 2. asking questions that I perceive as "I want to know who you are questions". 3. expressing strong interest in seeing me again 4. show a capacity for affection towards me 1
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