IndianGuy87 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Aren't women more likely to do that? In younger years they go for the most attractive or tall guys they can get to fulfill their sexual needs and then when they get older they end up going for the ones with the most money they can get regardless of his average looks due to lack of attractive or tall men available for all women to fulfill their financial needs. Then somehow if the guy happens to have job issues later on and ends up having lesser money then most women quickly initiate divorce, hence the high divorce rates in our society. They forget the whole "personality" they say that attracted them to the man in a society where even women work so the money shouldn't be such an issue to support the family. No patience among majority of them before initiating divorce. So not only they leave the guy hanging who they said they loved for his personality because of his job issue, they also try to get as much money out of him as possible through court. I agree that a lot of men "settle" but I do believe that much more women "settle" in general.
Drseussgrrl Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Aren't women more likely to do that? In younger years they go for the most attractive or tall guys they can get to fulfill their sexual needs and then when they get older they end up going for the ones with the most money they can get regardless of his average looks due to lack of attractive or tall men available for all women to fulfill their financial needs. Jesus dude. I'll ask again where you come up with this stuff. Believe it or not, a lot of people simply FALL IN LOVE. Short, tall, fat, skinny, broke, rich, pretty, ugly, funny, serious, dorky. Are you failing a lot in your dating life right now? It's usually the men who make all of these assumptions that do the worst with women. Be honest.
IndianGuy87 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I think men and women do it equally. I just had a friend encouraging me the other day to just go on dates with guys I don't even like that much, just to have something to do. She told me she dated this one guy she had no interest in for quite a while, until he just quit calling her. I was just laughing like a loon at this - I mean, it's so far from my nature to behave this way, I can hardly fathom it. But if my friends (relatively sweet girls) are any indication, I'm definitely in the minority. Plenty of people seem pretty OK with just filling dead time and space with something, anything. I don't know. If after a certain age, the percentage of virgin females is much lower than the percentage of virgin males in our society then I can't help myself but believe that it's the women who end up settling later more due to the lack of available desired men. Personally though, I don't know anything about dates since I've never had a chance to been on one and now have given up on it a while back.
SteveC80 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Jesus dude. I'll ask again where you come up with Are you failing a lot in your dating life right now? It's usually the men who make all of these assumptions that do the worst with women. . and viec versa which is what most of this thread is..negative generalazations about men
Drseussgrrl Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 and viec versa which is what most of this thread is..negative generalazations about men Yeah I don't like those either. Really life just kind of boils down to people who are *********s and people who aren't.
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 I never said all men. There are exceptions to everything Generalizations about genders do exist for a reason there is def some truth to them 1
IndianGuy87 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Jesus dude. I'll ask again where you come up with this stuff. Believe it or not, a lot of people simply FALL IN LOVE. Short, tall, fat, skinny, broke, rich, pretty, ugly, funny, serious, dorky. Are you failing a lot in your dating life right now? It's usually the men who make all of these assumptions that do the worst with women. Be honest. Short, fat, skinny, ugly, serious, and dorky guys have women "falling in love" with them because of how much money they make. These guys just happened to be the richest men that those women could find. If women really did fell in love with these types of men then why are they so prone to initiating divorce if the money situation ends up not being as good as it was? Especially after knowing how much of a devastating effect it can have on children. If they really loved him then why divorce the guy to make his situation worse rather than supporting him with love through his tough times? Why also try to get the most money they can get out through court? How come these men never had women interested in them in High School and college? In their younger years when they weren't making money.
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 Short, fat, skinny, ugly, serious, and dorky guys have women "falling in love" with them because of how much money they make. These guys just happened to be the richest men that those women could find. If women really did fell in love with these types of men then why are they so prone to initiating divorce if the money situation ends up not being as good as it was? Especially after knowing how much of a devastating effect it can have on children. If they really loved him then why divorce the guy to make his situation worse rather than supporting him with love through his tough times? Why also try to get the most money they can get out through court? Just like guys that fall out of love when their girlfriend gains 20 lbs or when their wives generally dont look like they did when she was 25. Yes, that does happen. Midlife crises involving going for younger women and divorcing their older wife. Yes, that does happen. I know 3 examples in my life where a guy did that. This is what I mean about gender stereotypes. They exist for a reason. Women and men are wired to prefer different things but there are individual differences 1
Drseussgrrl Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Yeah you know what? Both of you. Sh*t happens and that's life. There are no guarantees in love. So what are you going to do about it? Mope around because women get fat and get dumped, a man loses his job and gets dumped? Seriously I want to know. You come on here with all of these doomsday outcomes. For what? Validation? A solution? Or wait - HERE'S a novel idea. You can accept that it's a gamble, TRUST that you deserve to fall in love and be loved, warts and all, and make an honest shot at trying to be happy. 4
IndianGuy87 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Just like guys that fall out of love when their girlfriend gains 20 lbs or when their wives generally dont look like they did when she was 25. Yes, that does happen. Midlife crises involving going for younger women and divorcing their older wife. Yes, that does happen. I know 3 examples in my life where a guy did that. This is what I mean about gender stereotypes. They exist for a reason. Women and men are wired to prefer different things but there are individual differences Looks are natural where money is just paper. It's like these women carry a price tag on their heads of at least certain amount of money like some sort of object. It would be completely understandable if women dumped men for gaining whole lot of weight. Taking care of health is important. And I never really said men didn't "settle" nor were shallow, men are very shall but I just happen to be believe women "settle" much more than men and it's quite obvious if you try to be highly observant. In High Schools and colleges these women didn't care about these type of guys and now when they are making nice amount of money then all of a sudden these guys are amazing and they are completely "in love" with them? No offense but I don't buy it!
TheGuard13 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Anymore, I think "settling" just means "being unhappy". Because if you're happy, and you settled for being happy, how is that settling? I don't really do "numbers", but for the sake of argument, I'm not going to go out and try to get a 9 just because I "only" have a 7, if that 7 makes me really happy, and if that 7 makes it so I don't want anything else. I don't really see the point in making a list of things I want in a girl and checking those off, because the things I want/appreciate in a woman might well change. Have changed. And there are other ways to settle besides looks. People are really hung up on looks. Which are important, but somewhat less important than you might think when it comes to the long haul. 3
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 Looks are natural where money is just paper. It's like these women carry a price tag on their heads of at least certain amount of money like some sort of object. It would be completely understandable if women dumped men for gaining whole lot of weight. Taking care of health is important. And I never really said men didn't "settle" nor were shallow, men are very shall but I just happen to be believe women "settle" much more than men and it's quite obvious if you try to be highly observant. In High Schools and colleges these women didn't care about these type of guys and now when they are making nice amount of money then all of a sudden these guys are amazing and they are completely "in love" with them? No offense but I don't buy it! Hmmm...I know women who dont look like they did when they were 25 and they are more health conscious now than they have ever been. My friend that gained 40 lbs after having a kid and has only been able to lose 20 so far I wouldnt consider fat either. I am in really good shape now, and I hope I am forever and I put the effort in, but most men that ask me out do it mainly because they like my bod and that worries me because even if I try very hard I wont look this way forever. There are these things called metabolism and hormones ya know that change as you get older. Once menopause hits, it is very hard for a woman to keep her figure. I know some at my gym that do, but it sure isnt easy esp. when you have kids and a husband that is lazy and you dont sleep enough. Rarely do men stay in decent shape too they just dont get flack for it the way women do because we are valued for our looks.
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 Yeah you know what? Both of you. Sh*t happens and that's life. There are no guarantees in love. So what are you going to do about it? Mope around because women get fat and get dumped, a man loses his job and gets dumped? Seriously I want to know. You come on here with all of these doomsday outcomes. For what? Validation? A solution? Or wait - HERE'S a novel idea. You can accept that it's a gamble, TRUST that you deserve to fall in love and be loved, warts and all, and make an honest shot at trying to be happy. Im not moping about it. Its just a discussion. Seriously, this is an internet forum for discussion. Im perfectly happy being single, I brought up men dumping their wives for younger women because both genders have bad things happen to them.
IndianGuy87 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Yeah you know what? Both of you. Sh*t happens and that's life. There are no guarantees in love. So what are you going to do about it? Mope around because women get fat and get dumped, a man loses his job and gets dumped? Seriously I want to know. You come on here with all of these doomsday outcomes. For what? Validation? A solution? Or wait - HERE'S a novel idea. You can accept that it's a gamble, TRUST that you deserve to fall in love and be loved, warts and all, and make an honest shot at trying to be happy. The percentage of men who stay with their wives even after they get fat is much higher than the women who stay with their husbands after losing their jobs. These are the same women who generally came they look way past looks and money and claim that what truly matters is the guy's heart. I don't need any statistics to really prove that. Divorce rates are so high and it's almost every time due to women initiating it. Majority of the time they do it because of job/money status.
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 LOLOLOL at the other poster. I have NEVER dated a super hot guy. Most of the guys Ive dated my friends didnt think were all that cute. So the jokes on you. I have my own apartment and job so I dont date men for their money. I probably pay for myself more on dates than the average woman does
Drseussgrrl Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Im not moping about it. Its just a discussion. Seriously, this is an internet forum for discussion. Im perfectly happy being single, I brought up men dumping their wives for younger women because both genders have bad things happen to them. I work in a very male-dominated industry and I don't know a single one who has done this.
TheGuard13 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 It happens. Though what usually happens in my experience is that the man has an affair with a younger or more attractive woman, the wife divorces him, the man sticks with the younger woman, and then people say he left his wife for a younger woman.
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 I work in a very male-dominated industry and I don't know a single one who has done this. Ive never met a woman who dumped their husband when he had financial issues. My comment was directed at the other poster and was done to illustrate a point. I know 3 men who have. 3 is not alot...
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 I think Indianguy and Kimberlydoll should date. Then you can get as fat and broke as you like. Reported you. No need to be mean when Im just trying to have a logical argument with someone. Just because you dont like what I say on here is a reason to be calling names Perhaps I would date him. Sounds like he is a respectable guy with good character and thats what I like. Shame on me for not liking guys with bad character who are rude to women and use them... 1
IndianGuy87 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Hmmm...I know women who dont look like they did when they were 25 and they are more health conscious now than they have ever been. My friend that gained 40 lbs after having a kid and has only been able to lose 20 so far I wouldnt consider fat either. I am in really good shape now, and I hope I am forever and I put the effort in, but most men that ask me out do it mainly because they like my bod and that worries me because even if I try very hard I wont look this way forever. There are these things called metabolism and hormones ya know that change as you get older. Once menopause hits, it is very hard for a woman to keep her figure. I know some at my gym that do, but it sure isnt easy esp. when you have kids and a husband that is lazy and you dont sleep enough. Rarely do men stay in decent shape too they just dont get flack for it the way women do because we are valued for our looks. What? Men aren't valued for their looks? You say men ask you out because of your body as if women don't reject men because they appreciate all types or majority of the types of bodies besides buff bodies? Yes, women are valued for their looks because it's a shallow world but men aren't? At least weight can still be controlled, men are valued for things such as height which can't controlled at all. If men cared so much about looks then why is the percentage of virgin males so high after a certain age than virgin females? I personally think it's much easier to control your body figure than to control your job salary. When money making men in a relationship who were never valued for their looks in High School and college, how come they always had girl problems back then but once they started making a lot of money they didn't? Because due to the lack of available men the women desire because of their looks and height. Due to that, they "settle" for their financial needs after continuously going for the good looking ones when they were young for having their sexual needs satisfied.
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 What? Men aren't valued for their looks? You say men ask you out because of your body as if women don't reject men because they appreciate all types or majority of the types of bodies besides buff bodies? Yes, women are valued for their looks because it's a shallow world but men aren't? At least weight can still be controlled, men are valued for things such as height which can't controlled at all. If men cared so much about looks then why is the percentage of virgin males so high after a certain age than virgin females? I personally think it's much easier to control your body figure than to control your job salary. When money making men in a relationship who were never valued for their looks in High School and college, how come they always had girl problems back then but once they started making a lot of money they didn't? Because due to the lack of available men the women desire because of their looks and height. Due to that, they "settle" for their financial needs after continuously going for the good looking ones when they were young for having their sexual needs satisfied. 1) Scientific studies show over and over again men place more emphasis on looks in dating than women do. We will have to agree to disagree on that one 2) Not everyone has a great metabolism so no, not everyone has an easy time keeping the slim figure American men seem to prefer. I also hope you never go on medications, lots of medications these days mess up a person's metabolism. My friend recently went on seizure medication and cannot lose weight though she nearly kills herself. She cant stop taking the medicine or even switch to a different kind either- its the only one that doesnt give her other awful side effects 3) The virgin men doesnt have so much to do with their looks. Most virgin men I know are shy, not confident and dont put themselves out there, or go for way out of their league in terms of women. Its easier for women to lose their virginity because when it comes to just sex (no relationship) most men will sleep with any woman as long as she isnt hideous. 4) I dont know any men who make alot of money that have issues getting women so we must live in different worlds. (except for one guy, my cousin, and he is sooo shy thats his problem) 1
IndianGuy87 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Reported you. No need to be mean when Im just trying to have a logical argument with someone. Just because you dont like what I say on here is a reason to be calling names Perhaps I would date him. Sounds like he is a respectable guy with good character and thats what I like. Shame on me for not liking guys with bad character who are rude to women and use them... You wouldn't. I'm not good looking, not tall, not rich (hopefully in the future), I'm Indian and we tend to be seen as the ugliest guys in the eyes of girls, etc. My roots are from a certain area in India that is looked down upon the most and rarely any Indian women would be willing to date an Indian guy from that place since we are seen as low caste people in their eyes. Not many Indians from the area of my roots migrated out of India. There aren't any positive attractive traits in me that a girl likes. If girls do look at personality which I highly doubt most girls do, do I really sound like a nice guy in all of my posts? I wouldn't blame anyone if they labeled me a sexist. I just can't help myself but believe in what I really believe.
Drseussgrrl Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I didn't call anyone a name. It was a joke.
Author kimberlydoll Posted February 26, 2013 Author Posted February 26, 2013 You wouldn't. I'm not good looking, not tall, not rich (hopefully in the future), I'm Indian and we tend to be seen as the ugliest guys in the eyes of girls, etc. My roots are from a certain area in India that is looked down upon the most and rarely any Indian women would be willing to date an Indian guy from that place since we are seen as low caste people in their eyes. Not many Indians from the area of my roots migrated out of India. There aren't any positive attractive traits in me that a girl likes. If girls do look at personality which I highly doubt most girls do, do I really sound like a nice guy in all of my posts? I wouldn't blame anyone if they labeled me a sexist. I just can't help myself but believe in what I really believe. Ive already stated most of the guys I dated werent lookers. Im more into personality and in the last few years Ive become picker with character. I grew up in a city- I like Hispanics, Blacks, Indians. You should try to find women who are more openminded. The only issue Id be afraid of when dating in another race is if their family would accept me. As long as you are respectful and nice, have a sense of humour, show interest in many different things (I tend to go for mentally stimulating guys...not necessarily smart...but likes different things) thats a good personality in my book. You prob have more good personality traits than you think- dont put yourself down! The guy Rajesh from Big Bang Theory? Id date him in a heartbeat
IndianGuy87 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 1) Scientific studies show over and over again men place more emphasis on looks in dating than women do. We will have to agree to disagree on that one 2) Not everyone has a great metabolism so no, not everyone has an easy time keeping the slim figure American men seem to prefer. I also hope you never go on medications, lots of medications these days mess up a person's metabolism. My friend recently went on seizure medication and cannot lose weight though she nearly kills herself. She cant stop taking the medicine or even switch to a different kind either- its the only one that doesnt give her other awful side effects 3) The virgin men doesnt have so much to do with their looks. Most virgin men I know are shy, not confident and dont put themselves out there, or go for way out of their league in terms of women. Its easier for women to lose their virginity because when it comes to just sex (no relationship) most men will sleep with any woman as long as she isnt hideous. 4) I dont know any men who make alot of money that have issues getting women so we must live in different worlds. (except for one guy, my cousin, and he is sooo shy thats his problem) 1. I disagree but okay. Women in general happen to be very less honest about what they like because they don't wanna be labeled. 2. I'm not saying it's easy for women to control their body depending on their metabolism but it's still easier for an average woman to control it than an average man controlling his work salary. 3. I know a lot of guys who try to be confident when they approach girls for date but due to their looks they couldn't get far. I know in the past I was quite confident from time to time but my looks aren't appealing to girls so I couldn't do anything. And yes, men seem like they are willing to sleep with anyone but that's because of woman's shallowness. Both want sex just as much but since your average woman happens to be so shallow in looks, in order to ease their sexual frustration the men just end up sleeping with "hideous" and fat women. 4. I never said anywhere that men making a lot of money ever have issues getting women. That is just so unlikely because women love money so much. I'd be shocked if I ever see a money making guy in my life having girl problems. That's like impossible!
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