Emilia Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Yup. Pretty crazy when you didn't appreciate his ambitiousness of wanting a more prestigious degree and chose to study rather than work because of it. Those exams are TOUGH!! How do you know he wanted a more prestigious degree?
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Whether you're aware of it or not, money has everything to do with it. Women wouldn't question about men being responsible or not if he was blessed to have all the money in the world but be one of the most irresponsible person on Earth. That's false. Many of us value responsibility and a good work ethic very highly. You know … you present yourself in a very poor light when you post things about what women think / do / feel (whether we're aware of it or not ) on a thread full of thinking, doing, feeling women.
Emilia Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 But hey, better late than never like they say which I already mentioned. Pretty ironic of saying I'm hard of hearing. They also say "you gotta keep your head up" and hope for the best. Actually this is not necessarily correct. He is 37, most people peak at around 45 in their career, some sooner. It isn't necessarily to his benefit to finish his graduate degree, could be wasting his time. Hence my question in my very first post whether he understands his potential career path.
IndianGuy87 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 How do you know he wanted a more prestigious degree? Because he wants to get in law school? He desires to become a lawyer and also sees it as one of the more prestigious degrees out there since it is.
IndianGuy87 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 That's false. Many of us value responsibility and a good work ethic very highly. You know … you present yourself in a very poor light when you post things about what women think / do / feel (whether we're aware of it or not ) on a thread full of thinking, doing, feeling women. I present myself poorly because I said earlier that she should not date him because she is questioning his actions and he deserves someone better who wouldn't? Okay
clia Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I'm 38, and I wouldn't date him because he's at a completely different place in life than me. It's the same reason I wouldn't date a 21 year old. I own my own house, am well settled in my career, and have substantial savings (retirement and otherwise). I also enjoy going out to dinner, traveling, and doing things that tend to cost money. I've worked my butt off since college graduation to enjoy those things. He is living with his parents, just starting out in his career, and very likely has just accumulated a bunch of student loans. He doesn't have any disposable income to do the kinds of things I'm interested in doing. By age 37, he should have had a decent amount of savings to eliminate any need to move in with his parents, and enough to float by for 6-9 months (minimum) while he finds full time employment. The fact that he doesn't is concerning. Why not? Was he frivolous with his money? Was he working full time since at least age 22ish? What happened to those earnings? Additionally, there are jobs out there. Too many people nowadays are so entitled that they think they have to sit around and wait for their dream job to show up at their door rather than working a job, any job to have some income. If he can't find a job, it makes me wonder a few things: (1) what field is he getting his degree in, and is it an in demand field; (2) how hard is he looking for a job; and (3) what jobs has he turned down. He must have some skills by age 37 -- at least enough to make some kind of a living. If he can't even support himself...well...let's just say that isn't a big draw for me right now. 3
Emilia Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Because he wants to get in law school? He desires to become a lawyer and also sees it as one of the more prestigious degrees out there since it is. In your opinion. There are plenty of people out there who never wish to finish anything or have a career or work for a living. We call them 'forever students'. Maybe that's what the poster referred to since she didn't seem to think the guy was going to do any work soon (and she is the only one out of all of us who knew him). 1
Drseussgrrl Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Because he wants to get in law school? He desires to become a lawyer and also sees it as one of the more prestigious degrees out there since it is. Ha - you're still talking about my ex. No he didn't want to go to law school to become a lawyer. He was doing it because he had the money to and didn't know what else to do with his life but earn fancy degrees with his family's money that he'll never use. Sorry - I'd prefer a blue collar hard-working dude with a little dirt under his fingernails to THAT. 1
IndianGuy87 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Actually this is not necessarily correct. He is 37, most people peak at around 45 in their career, some sooner. It isn't necessarily to his benefit to finish his graduate degree, could be wasting his time. Hence my question in my very first post whether he understands his potential career path. Like you asked me many times previously, do you know the man to know if it is necessarily beneficial for him to finish his graduate degree or not? Whatever the degree may be, maybe he really wants to use it to become something he long aspired to? Whether it may be to his benefit financially or not, that we don't know but at least he'd use it to become something he wanted to be after all those years of studying for it.
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I present myself poorly because I said earlier that she should not date him because she is questioning his actions and he deserves someone better who wouldn't? Okay No, you present yourself poorly when you say things like: Originally Posted by IndianGuy87 Whether you're aware of it or not, money has everything to do with it. Women wouldn't question about men being responsible or not if he was blessed to have all the money in the world but be one of the most irresponsible person on Earth. Which I quoted for you already, but I guess you missed it the first time. Also, I think you need to own what you're doing here. Quit trying to backpedal and pretend that you are not intentionally insulting the OP and implying (or saying outright - I'm not going back to look right now) that she's a superficial, creepy bad woman for considering this man's job status and living situation at this stage of his life when deciding whether to date him. Please just answer this: Is there ANY aspect of a woman that you consider when thinking about dating her aside from her interior goodness? Or is any age, career, physical characteristic, lifestyle, number of children, etc. part of what concerns you? Well? 1
Estate Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Like you asked me many times previously, do you know the man to know if it is necessarily beneficial for him to finish his graduate degree or not? Whatever the degree may be, maybe he really wants to use it to become something he long aspired to? Whether it may be to his benefit financially or not, that we don't know but at least he'd use it to become something he wanted to be after all those years of studying for it. Sure, that's very inspiring... but then lets meet the guy in 5 years time. What sort of a care giver will be be now? In her mid-late 30's a woman will probably be looking for a guy who's got his act together, is financially stable and she can probably settle down with. Is a 35 year old woman going to move in with this guys parents? Get real!
clia Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Like you asked me many times previously, do you know the man to know if it is necessarily beneficial for him to finish his graduate degree or not? Whatever the degree may be, maybe he really wants to use it to become something he long aspired to? Whether it may be to his benefit financially or not, that we don't know but at least he'd use it to become something he wanted to be after all those years of studying for it. I don't think anyone is arguing that he shouldn't follow his dreams and get a degree. That's his choice. The question is whether we would date this person. I would not.
Emilia Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Like you asked me many times previously, do you know the man to know if it is necessarily beneficial for him to finish his graduate degree or not? Whatever the degree may be, maybe he really wants to use it to become something he long aspired to? Whether it may be to his benefit financially or not, that we don't know but at least he'd use it to become something he wanted to be after all those years of studying for it. * facepalm * I don't know! I said many many many many many many times that this is the question I asked in my very first post in this thread. It's there, you can see it. It's YOU who is making the assumptions
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Like you asked me many times previously, do you know the man to know if it is necessarily beneficial for him to finish his graduate degree or not? Whatever the degree may be, maybe he really wants to use it to become something he long aspired to? Whether it may be to his benefit financially or not, that we don't know but at least he'd use it to become something he wanted to be after all those years of studying for it. So what. That doesn't mean a woman NEEDS to date him. By the way, please remember that the original responses to this OP were along the lines of inquiring about the reasons for this situation than advising her not to date him. 2
IndianGuy87 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Ha - you're still talking about my ex. No he didn't want to go to law school to become a lawyer. He was doing it because he had the money to and didn't know what else to do with his life but earn fancy degrees with his family's money that he'll never use. Sorry - I'd prefer a blue collar hard-working dude with a little dirt under his fingernails to THAT. Well, she asked and I answered. I know few guys like these but no matter how lazy they are, they never have a problem dating girls they like. It's more often than usual that it's them who dump the girls that they date rather than the girls, no matter how lazy they are or how much money they overly spend of their parents. It's good you prefer a blue collar guys though. They deserve more love than they usually get.
yongyong Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Don't listen to what they say. watch what they do. Bring anything here. I am paralyzed. I stutter. I am unemployed. I have this and that........would you date me? Who would say mean things like me? I once said, I wouldn't date a girl who has very ill parents. (meaning she has to take care of them physically and financially) and people got outrageous. Would it be harder for me to find a gf if I have to sit by my parents all the time? 100% Yes. bottom line, you are wasting time by asking questions here. People will throw some B.S and it will make you feel better for now. But you are the one who will have to deal with the harsh reality.
Emilia Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Well, she asked and I answered. I know few guys like these but no matter how lazy they are, they never have a problem dating girls they like. It's more often than usual that it's them who dump the girls that they date rather than the girls, no matter how lazy they are or how much money they overly spend of their parents. It's good you prefer a blue collar guys though. They deserve more love than they usually get. I think you need to get away from the keyboard and go out to experience real life a bit more. 3
Drseussgrrl Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Well, she asked and I answered. I know few guys like these but no matter how lazy they are, they never have a problem dating girls they like. It's more often than usual that it's them who dump the girls that they date rather than the girls, no matter how lazy they are or how much money they overly spend of their parents. It's good you prefer a blue collar guys though. They deserve more love than they usually get. I don't know where you get your information. Seriously. I don't "prefer" blue or white collar. It all boils down to work ethic which makes up someone's CHARACTER. 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 It's good you prefer a blue collar guys though. They deserve more love than they usually get. How would you even know how much love blue collar guys usually get? Aren't you a med student? This country is overflowing with blue collar guys and women who pair up with them. I'm married to a truck driver, for example. There is love a-plenty for stand-up blue collar guys. 2
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I find it frustrating that EVERY SINGLE TIME I ask, on ANY thread, why preferences are fine for men but render a woman to be a superficial wench, it is NEVER answered. Explain this, please! 3
Els Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I find it frustrating that EVERY SINGLE TIME I ask, on ANY thread, why preferences are fine for men but render a woman to be a superficial wench, it is NEVER answered. Explain this, please! You and me both, sister. 1
Emilia Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I find it frustrating that EVERY SINGLE TIME I ask, on ANY thread, why preferences are fine for men but render a woman to be a superficial wench, it is NEVER answered. Explain this, please! Probably because we tend to end up arguing with men who have very little relationship and/or general life experience. ie they have no idea what they are talking about. 4
Drseussgrrl Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I find it frustrating that EVERY SINGLE TIME I ask, on ANY thread, why preferences are fine for men but render a woman to be a superficial wench, it is NEVER answered. Explain this, please! Because they falsely assume that we all want tall, rich, gorgeous confident men who treat us like crap.
jma500 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Huh? For the record I'm a chick and I've been laid off. I went out and got a crappy serving job, because you know, I'm an adult and need to take care of my sh*t. Not sure where you got I think it's "ok" for women to do this. I'm just going to assume that you live at home or can't keep a job. I have been a property manager for nearly 16 years thank you. yeah I don't have a job right now but through no fault of my own. new company bought the building I managed and used me to get all the tenant info I had and so they could understand the paperwork. Once this was accomplished they got rid of me. my old company is looking for new properties and would rehire me immediately. I spent nearly 13 years with them. guys like myself are not losers. we just get stuck in untenable situations.
StanMusial Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 For the outraged guys on this thread: In the world where I've been living all my life, men also take how a woman's been supporting herself and how she chooses to live her life into consideration when deciding whether pursuing a relationship with her would be a good idea for them. Don't you guys do this too? Tell the truth. I would not seriously consider a relationship with a girl if she had huge debts. If you marrry, that shyt suddenly gets all over you as well. I have ditched girls before because of it. Some people just want to live beyond their means, I'm not going to get along with someone like that. 1
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