3 mins into the 1st phone conversation and she was already asking me what I had???

[Eggplant]

Meet more women and become less stunned by their shallowness and materialism LOL.

 

Is this true? Are most women materialistic? Just curious because I don't date girls.

[PhillyDude]

But men aren't supposed to drive?

 

 

Not if they can't afford it

[Eggplant]

I mean what is wrong with me liking a woman to walk on me if it's in my own home?

Nothing. Just don't bring it up until you're in a serious relationship. Never on the first phone meeting. It's too much too fast. Just a suggestion...

[Dark Phoenix]

So let me get this straight... an online dater asked you a question "do you drive" and it offended you and you hung up and came to LS to complain about it.

 

I see you referencing "MEN" a lot in this thread but yet you do not know a single thing about "MEN"

 

#1 Men don't online date

#2 Men don't come to the internet and seek internal validation from being offended by someone that asked a question to sort out a loser

#3 Men don't make excuses because of their situation and blame and say everyone else is like them. Men go out and fix their problems. If they dont have a job, they go find 2 crappy jobs instead of crying about it and venting their feelings on an online dating forum. I have personally seen men go work as a cashier at walmart and I respect him for working through the "hard" times instead of crying about it

 

The difference between a man and you is you choose to be miserable and complain about your situation and argue about it and try to convince not only others but yourself that you were right in doing what you were doing when deep down, you probably realize you are what your first phone conversation chick thought of you when you hung up the phone on her.... "another loser"

[ChessPieceFace]

If you're living in the US you're in luck. Women here will walk all over you.

[PhillyDude]

So let me get this straight... an online dater asked you a question "do you drive" and it offended you and you hung up and came to LS to complain about it.

 

I see you referencing "MEN" a lot in this thread but yet you do not know a single thing about "MEN"

 

#1 Men don't online date

#2 Men don't come to the internet and seek internal validation from being offended by someone that asked a question to sort out a loser

#3 Men don't make excuses because of their situation and blame and say everyone else is like them. Men go out and fix their problems. If they dont have a job, they go find 2 crappy jobs instead of crying about it and venting their feelings on an online dating forum. I have personally seen men go work as a cashier at walmart and I respect him for working through the "hard" times instead of crying about it

 

The difference between a man and you is you choose to be miserable and complain about your situation and argue about it and try to convince not only others but yourself that you were right in doing what you were doing when deep down, you probably realize you are what your first phone conversation chick thought of you when you hung up the phone on her.... "another loser"

 

 

I am not complaining just pointing out how silly some woman are in this economy to have all these expectations when so many people are struggliing

[rocketman122]

Why can't be normal life if he is a nice guy who works everyday and visits his family and just happens to like feet when he is behind closed doors?

 

I mean what is wrong with me liking a woman to walk on me if it's in my own home?

 

 

thats a fetish? thats nothing. the fact that many people arent open sexually want to make you seem like a freak. I wouldnt want to date a woman who was eww disgusted about a man having a very minor fetish. most people are boring in bed anyway.

[Dark Phoenix]

I am not complaining just pointing out how silly some woman are in this economy to have all these expectations when so many people are struggliing

 

"These expectations?" LOL to drive?

 

Do you need some cheese for your wine...

[PhillyDude]

"These expectations?" LOL to drive?

 

Do you need some cheese for your wine...

 

 

 

I;m going to say it one more time

 

"Most people cannot maintain a car and rent alone and need help in this new economy

[PhillyDude]

You can say it a million times, doesn't mean it's so. There are millions of cars on the road, and lots of their owners live (and pay rent or a mortgage) alone. Get over it.

 

You acted like a retard. Don't do it again.

 

 

Mortgage and a Car??? WOW, i know for a fact that is not easy lol

[Anela]

thats a fetish? thats nothing. the fact that many people arent open sexually want to make you seem like a freak. I wouldnt want to date a woman who was eww disgusted about a man having a very minor fetish. most people are boring in bed anyway.

 

I said that it would bother me, on a first phone call. I'm not into feet, and it would be weird to *me*. If it's mentioned by both parties on a dating site, that's a different story.

[PhillyDude]

I said that it would bother me, on a first phone call. I'm not into feet, and it would be weird to *me*. If it's mentioned by both parties on a dating site, that's a different story.

 

 

So why would it be a big deal for you to walk on your man's back?

[Anela]

So why would it be a big deal for you to walk on your man's back?

 

I've never walked on someone's back. I was saying that someone talking about my feet on a first phone call, would be weird to me.

[Locust]

I have to say you took it as judgement so I think it was a bit shady just to hang up. It depends where you live, if you live in the country or suburbs transportation is limited if any at all. I live in San Francisco and driving in the city is the worst experience, but we have 68 bus lines so we all good. But if you want to go to the suburbs of San Francisco also known as the San Francisco Peninsula is where you need to drive. I think this woman was not interested in your assets but wondering if you had transportation to meet her or no.

[rocketman122]

I said that it would bother me, on a first phone call. I'm not into feet, and it would be weird to *me*. If it's mentioned by both parties on a dating site, that's a different story.

 

ok, fair enough. I just think that if you liked these things, it wouldnt really bother you. I would just have said ok, but lets not talk about that so early on. OTOH, I wouldnt bring it up so early. I dont want her to think im a freak in bed..not yet.

[PhillyDude]

There is not a woman on the planet who will date a guy who behaves this way.

 

 

Seriously op... Describe to us exactly what it is you are looking for. From your post history, there does not seem to be a single thing a woman can do right, according to your opinion. So.... what exactly do you plan to do about this?

 

The main thing I want to be able to do during a 1st phone conversation is LAUGH

 

If there is no laughter there I will not set up a date.

[strawberryshortstack]

I feel that in this bad economy woman over 25 should be more understanding and less judgmental of a guy's financial and living situation

 

Asking if you drive is hardly being judgmental. Perhaps she just wants to see what options are available for a date.

[rocketman122]

Asking if you drive is hardly being judgmental. Perhaps she just wants to see what options are available for a date.

 

 

I guess its a sensitive issue for him because he doesnt have a car and he would like to meet women. im sure it bothers him and when it comes up it touches a nerve. whats the problem to understand.

[strawberryshortstack]

The phone call was for me to chat for 45 mins to an hour and then set up a date the following week

 

Clearly, she had other intentions for the conversation: to set up a date.

 

I thought anyone over 35 had no problem chatting on the phone

 

Most don't. But typically, the first phone call is used to set up the first date.

 

I know what's it for too

 

Developing Rapport

 

No, the first date is when you do that.

 

 

 

If I got it online I believe it had to do with her being attracted to me

 

And clearly, you weren't completely honest in your online profile.

 

We were not on the topic of meeting so why was that important at that point of the conversation?

 

Clearly, she was trying to STEER the conversation in that direction. But let me guess, only YOU are allowed to control the conversation, right?

 

Many grown men don't drive in this................NEW ECONOMY

 

Blame the economy all you want. All of the men I know, including my boyfriend, who does not make a lot of money, still manage to be able to drive. In California, near San Francisco. Gas prices are > $4 per gallon here. So yeah, keep blaming the economy.

Edited February 23, 2013 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[MyPoutine]

You know, just as an idea, you may want to make a list of things that people shouldn't do/say/think in your presence before dating someone and then see how many women will be willing to jump through all your hoops just for the privilege of dating you.

 

You assumed something of a woman you are just getting to know and reacted in a rude and childish way - by hanging up. If she had hung up on you I'm sure you'd have concocted a slew of reasons for it and been here with a slightly different thread title.

 

You are not fit to date, I say this because you don't deal or explain what goes on inside your head you simply react and stomp off, judging others based on your own insecurities and projections. But heres the thing: you are not telepathic!

 

"Do you have a car" usually means "Can you pick me up or would you like us to meet somewhere" I forget what the other thread was about but I remember it was something equally insignificant blown way out of proportion.

 

Relationships can have drama and arguments sometimes but with this dating you sounds like a nightmare filled with nothing but drama and a person who will be willing to do everything exactly as you want it to be and walk on eggshells 24/7.

 

I shake my head

[strawberryshortstack]

Well she lived outside the city and I figured that she was asking because it's was something important to her.

 

 

People ask only questions because they are important to them. Like I ask

 

Do you have sexy feet?

 

Do you like to watch TV?

 

Do you watch Sports?

 

Do you go to clubs and bars?

 

Well, I guess I'd be hanging up on you. You can ask a woman if she has sexy feet, but she can't ask you if you drive? Wtf?

 

Well I guess it depends on how far she is from you. Like I wouldn't meet a girl who didn't drive who lives in the suburbs.

 

Oh darn, I guess that means you and I can't date. I'm so thoroughly disappointed. Oh, and btw...hypocritical much?

 

Why can't be normal life if he is a nice guy who works everyday and visits his family and just happens to like feet when he is behind closed doors?

 

I mean what is wrong with me liking a woman to walk on me if it's in my own home?

 

Absolutely nothing. But this is hardly an appropriate subject for a first date, or a pre-first-date chat.

 

 

I don't know many people who can maintain a CAR and a APT in 2013 all by themselves

 

It happens. If you're struggling so much, perhaps it's time to focus your energy on finding a better job instead of finding women who just piss you off for being normal.

 

I;m going to say it one more time

 

"Most people cannot maintain a car and rent alone and need help in this new economy

 

Speak for yourself.

 

Mortgage and a Car??? WOW, i know for a fact that is not easy lol

 

Again, it happens. Because for some people, having both is important, and they do what is needed to make it work.

Edited February 23, 2013 by a LoveShack.org Moderator

[silvermercy]

Originally Posted by PhillyDude

 

Well she lived outside the city and I figured that she was asking because it's was something important to her.

 

 

People ask only questions because they are important to them. Like I ask

 

Do you have sexy feet?

 

Do you like to watch TV?

 

Do you watch Sports?

 

Do you go to clubs and bars?

These are the IMPORTANT questions? But driving a car is not? She was merely asking a way of arranging to meet up! I ask and get asked this question a lot of times on first-time communications! Nobody hungs up. And I have no problem if a man says that, no, he doesn't drive. Even if I had a problem (which would be weird) I'd never hung up. That's just immature and blowing something out of proportion. After reading other people's posts though it seems you do that a lot though.

 

And don't get me started on the first one about sexy feet! It would creep me out to no end for a first-time talk!!! Even if we both had met on a sexy feet fetish site!

 

Seriously, you're not ready to date. This is not how dating works. And this is coming from someone with limited date experience.

[TigerCub]

"These expectations?" LOL to drive?

 

Do you need some cheese for your wine...

 

Wine AND Cheese???? In this economy?!!!

Ugh!! you just don't listen do you??!!

[plethora]

I don't know many people who can maintain a CAR and a APT in 2013 all by themselves

 

My girlfriend does. She's 21.

[Eclypse]

Why didn't you tell her what you told us here? That you live in an area close to work and entertainment and presumably good public transport. I cannot think of a single woman who would have an issue with that, unless she lived really far away. She knows nothing about you at all dude, and is new to your city I'm guessing. Seriously grow up, or answer the question with "let me ask YOU a more important question - are your feet sexy?"