ascendotum Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Well that's the way it is in the world's biggest relationship market, China. BBC News - China's 'leftover women' One consolation is if you are an older unmarried woman, you are considered higher quality...too good for most men, even though there are millions of excess men. Its not just the family who puts pressure on women to marry over there, the govt gets in on the act. Local govt. gets involved in trying to match up single people. If they really want to help all the dorky 'nice' guys or country farmers there, and have these educated women breed, then they should make it so that if the guy writes to his local state party chief, then they can force any single woman over 30 of his choosing to marry him.
Keenly Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 China also has a one child policy. Hardly comparable to the rest of the world. 1
ChessPieceFace Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Making value judgments based on a society that kills female babies due to government restrictions. Yeah that's totally sensible. 8
Imported Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 You'd be a "D" quality man OP. The "left over women" are "A" quality. It wouldn't work. "A" quality women and "D" quality men are meant to be single forever.
laaddict Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 If they really want to help all the dorky 'nice' guys or country farmers there, and have these educated women breed, then they should make it so that if the guy writes to his local state party chief, then they can force any single woman over 30 of his choosing to marry him. Interesting idea....
ChessPieceFace Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 You'd be a "D" quality man OP. The "left over women" are "A" quality. It wouldn't work. "A" quality women and "D" quality men are meant to be single forever. Is this supposed to be a joke / sarcasm? Like even the leftover women still think they are top-notch, because society tells them so?
Author ascendotum Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 You'd be a "D" quality man OP. The "left over women" are "A" quality. It wouldn't work. "A" quality women and "D" quality men are meant to be single forever. I ain't Chinese nor rara'ing communism. I am just giving insight into relationship attitudes in what is the most populous country and soon to be biggest economy in the world. D, why because I link BBC and not DailyMail?
ls32ssibm Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Not to make this into a political thread, but didn't President Obozo say we should emulate these pinkos a few years back? 1
Dark Phoenix Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I dont disagree with that philosophy at all... 25,26, maybe 27 anything after that is a bust if i want to marry.
Imported Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 From the link "There is an opinion that A-quality guys will find B-quality women, B-quality guys will find C-quality women, and C-quality men will find D-quality women," says Huang Yuanyuan. "The people left are A-quality women and D-quality men. So if you are a leftover woman, you are A-quality." I don't agree with it of course. Plenty of single women left around that are obviously neither attractive nor smart. No possible way they are "A" quality. Plenty of single guys left around that are attractive, set financially and intelligent. Diffidently not "D" quality. Never believed for one second people that are married are automatically better. Many of them went from the frying pan into the fire lol. 1
rocketman122 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I dont believe theyre leftovers but I do believe people older than 33 are going to have a harder time finding the person theyd like. I think that most of the good ones are quickly taken.
Lani Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Looks like you're f*cked. Actually, it looks like I'm not. Which is even more depressing.. 6
rocketman122 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Looks like you're f*cked. haha! I dont know why I wrote 33. I think 30 and up will have it much harder. I think is more true for women than men. Im talking specifically about marriage and kids. the clock ticking and all. on jdate there is just a crap load of single woman who very desperate to find someone. women are very quick to settle and get the family going and they are very sharp when choosing men. they pick up the good ones VERY quickly and after looking at the competition (men) it was clear those men were the leftovers. nothing special. because I like companionship (I love to love) it bothers me to see all these woman who dont want it. I just think they will realize it too late. I saw many older single woman as well 40+ and they are on that site for a LONG time. I wouldnt date a woman 40+ who's single and without a child. it says something to me. big warning for me. especially those who never lived with someone.
Lani Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 hahahaha touche With a wit like that, I'm surprised men aren't knocking down your door in a fit of raging passion. The door is wide open, and they're still not coming in! 4
rocketman122 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Define "good ones". good looking , arent socially awkward, freaks, tend to be successful, tall, those who would be a good partner/parent, a go getter type, a good provider, serious and responsible. in my eyes, I think its self explanatory. this is what women seem to be choosing. not the clown who sits in his moms basement playing video games, eating pringles, being lazy and doing nothing with himself. doesnt have to be all those things in the list but if you dont know then you arent that type. 1
ChessPieceFace Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 women are very quick to settle and get the family going and they are very sharp when choosing men. they pick up the good ones VERY quickly and after looking at the competition (men) it was clear those men were the leftovers. nothing special. Wait... what? Define "good men" because I'm sure it's not MY definition. Alpha men that make a lot of money? If so then yes, but I just feel so sad for people who equate success with women with "being a good man." The successful, outgoing men are mostly taken, yes. Not all the good men. I saw many older single woman as well 40+ and they are on that site for a LONG time. I wouldnt date a woman 40+ who's single and without a child. it says something to me. big warning for me. especially those who never lived with someone. My older sister is in her 40's, divorced with kids and looks on sites like that. She finds no success anywhere. I try to find nice ways to give her advice to stop being so impossible to please, but it's hard to do.
rocketman122 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Wait... what? Define "good men" because I'm sure it's not MY definition. Alpha men that make a lot of money? If so then yes, but I just feel so sad for people who equate success with women with "being a good man." The successful, outgoing men are mostly taken, yes. Not all the good men. My older sister is in her 40's, divorced with kids and looks on sites like that. She finds no success anywhere. I try to find nice ways to give her advice to stop being so impossible to please, but it's hard to do. where did i write money? successful is not only linked to money. and success or money doesnt have to connected with alpha. out of all what I wrote in those traits, having a lot of money is something I dont have but im very successful with the women and all wanted a ltr relationship with me. always and all wanted to. I wont comment on your sister. I dont know who she is, what she looks like. what she has to offer. maybe shes too picky, too problematic, I dont know. but she doesnt pick any guys she finds to her liking and that successful guys dont choose her either. and as you see, my point still stand then that the good ones are already taken. its hard to find them after 35(roughly) because they are in relationships and many married. on the whole, its just crumbs. could be that some good ones got divorced and are back on the market but they get picked up very quickly. people have keen intuition. when you go on a date or 2 you quickly know who youre up against. also Seinfeld said that out of the whole population, only 5% are dateable, so I believe him HAHA also it gets harder and harder to find the right person because we know what we want when we get older and are much pickier..especially the 2nd time around. 1
uglie_mq Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 just one question for guys, age 23 and 33, which one would you prefer??
Els Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 This relationship mindset thrives in China because of: 1) An inherently chauvinistic cultural attitude, still, compared to the rest of the developed world (China has progressed in terms of economy and technology, but is still far behind in terms of gender equality) 2) The largest discrepancy in male:female population in the world, due to aforementioned female baby killings/abortions It's hardly comparable to the world as most of you guys know it. 3
candie13 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I'm 32... and I have been called worse ! 2
iKING Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 just one question for guys, age 23 and 33, which one would you prefer?? The former is youth, a physically attractive appeal, the latter is experience, a more mature appeal. Both are perfectly capable of the other's attributes and neither is less or more interesting. The gap there is relatively small, if it were 20s vs. 40s, it might be a different story, simply due to the 20 year age gap. Not to say It's impossible, just less likely. Stigma runs deep in culture, there's no need to worry about a "breaking point" of worth based on age. 1
truth_seeker Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 The hard truth is as women get older the tables get turned on them. Women in their prime (18-29) have the power. Above average to beautiful women can pick and choose, have boatloads of options at their disposal. Once their good looks start to slip that's when their power diminishes. They start to get over looked; all of those options are no longer available. Women have to cash in at the right time. If they don't, they're going to struggle to find someone as they get older. As for men, over the long haul, we have the advantage. Women may have more power and control for a small period of time, but men win in the longevity department. Of course, these men must be relatively good-looking and are financially secure.
Treasa Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I can't stop laughing over how seriously some of the people in this thread are taking this. I'm 38 and just found an amazing guy who is way better than any of my previous boyfriends. I wasn't even looking. That being said, I love my life so much that it doesn't even matter. 8
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