Disenchantedly Yours Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 This sentiment was to be reinforced over and over again. Throughout my life (I’m in my fifties) I’ve met a lot of women who I would consider 9’s and 10’s. ....Why would I waste my time on a 2 or a 6 for that matter when I can get a 9 or 10, especially when that 2 or 6 would just screw up my reputation. I thought the rating women on a scale from 1-10 thing was only something immature guys in their early 20s did. I really don't understand a 50 year old man who rates women on a scale from 1-10. Coud you share a picture of yourself? I am very curious what you look like after all this scale rating you've talked about regarding other women.
SteveC80 Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I often hear people make claims of really good looking guys getting a lot of action out of lower level women. I don’t believe that to be a rule and it certainly doesn’t apply to me. Primarily this is because of pride. Good looking men, just like good looking women, don’t just pop out of cereal boxes. They are good looking because they work at it, because their pride won’t let them be just average. Why would I waste my time on a 2 or a 6 for that matter when I can get a 9 or 10, especially when that 2 or 6 would just screw up my reputation. Besides, every woman who I’ve dated who seemed to be below me spent the whole relationship sabotaging it over her fears that I would leave her for a prettier woman. I never left one for a prettier woman but rather because she drove me nuts from her insecurities and petty jealousies. Exactly i always prided myself in my appereance why would i date some slob who barely dresses up or cares about her appereance? wed have nothing in common I was never one of those dudes who slept with tons of average women just because it was easier to get them to bed.They wouldnt evne get my dick hard so i had to stay with the 9's and 10's
Bristolius Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I thought the rating women on a scale from 1-10 thing was only something immature guys in their early 20s did. I really don't understand a 50 year old man who rates women on a scale from 1-10. Coud you share a picture of yourself? I am very curious what you look like after all this scale rating you've talked about regarding other women. Don't you remember that terrible movie with Dudley Moore and Bo Derek?
Anela Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Again you're making so many assumptions -- it's possible to have casual sex without lying -- as long as you're honest from the beginning I see no problem with it. I'm not going to rule out a huge segment of the make population, but then it seems that I don't have your puritanical values. My boyfriend is a GOOD person, he treats me like gold and did from minute 1, and he and I also started out casual. You want to judge people solely by heir sexual past, do it, but don't project your problems onto everyone else. Ugh I am so sick of all of the man hating here, it's just pathetic. It's like a bad Lifetime movie. It does sound like you have a problem with women. I'm not a man-hater, and that goes for others, too. Why would you hate on the women he was with, because you don't find them attractive? Why is that hatred acceptable? Because it's just as bad, and could be its own Lifetime movie. Some of us feel like we're living in Lifetime movies, because members of our family are idiots. I won't respond to you any more, because I'm seeing my sister in you: the man can do no wrong, and women are scum if they don't feel the same way.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Don't you remember that terrible movie with Dudley Moore and Bo Derek? I don't think I ever saw that one.
daylight Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Just being honest about it.... It's an American males rite of passage to bang a few fatties, uglies, and crazies. It's part of the maturing process. Most of the time when I was younger, it was simply convenience, she was there and available when I needed an outlet to plug into. Or I was drunk one night and didn't notice that what I was going home with was actually a beached whale. Sometimes even an ugly girl can be attractive in some weird niche way, maybe she was a cop and I've always wanted to bang a lady cop or something like that. It's the ugly truth but the truth nonetheless. As a guy, sometimes you just gotta get a nut and it builds your confidence level up quite a bit when you got all these women ugly or not chasing after you. I'm surprised he actually told you, most guys I know would take that **** to the grave.
Anela Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I want to make a few points here concerning the OP. First is that when I have feelings for a woman it seems that she looks prettier to me than when I don’t, or didn’t, have feelings for her. I suspect that this phenomenon is rather common. Second; every guy that I’ve ever met who claimed to be a player, a PUA, or a lady’s man seemed to me to mostly date ugly women. It may be that the less desirable women are more likely to fall for their crap. Third: I consider myself a good looking guy. When I was in high school, for a while I dated a girl that I used to describe as, “one of the girls who hung out behind the shop building smoking cigarettes.” She wasn’t at all pretty, had no graces, and had a personality that at times made me cringe. But when it was just her and I alone, I felt really good. There was this other girl, one of the more popular girls, a cheerleader – one of the mean girls. She pulled me aside one day and told me that I could do so much better than the other girl – made a big deal about how people like her and I didn’t have to mingle with the riff raff. Though I’m much nicer about it than her I agreed with her sentiment and soon broke off my relationship with the other girl, though I long carried feelings for her. This sentiment was to be reinforced over and over again. Throughout my life (I’m in my fifties) I’ve met a lot of women who I would consider 9’s and 10’s. With these women there always seemed to be a “hey you’re one of us” kind of feeling and interaction regardless if anything ever led to a relationship or not. Many times over I’ve heard these women make comments to the effect that the fact that I don’t carry on with less desirable women made me even more attractive to them. I often hear people make claims of really good looking guys getting a lot of action out of lower level women. I don’t believe that to be a rule and it certainly doesn’t apply to me. Primarily this is because of pride. Good looking men, just like good looking women, don’t just pop out of cereal boxes. They are good looking because they work at it, because their pride won’t let them be just average. Why would I waste my time on a 2 or a 6 for that matter when I can get a 9 or 10, especially when that 2 or 6 would just screw up my reputation. Besides, every woman who I’ve dated who seemed to be below me spent the whole relationship sabotaging it over her fears that I would leave her for a prettier woman. I never left one for a prettier woman but rather because she drove me nuts from her insecurities and petty jealousies. And you've confirmed any fears they may have had: you say that they ruined your reputation, and you're better off spending time with 9's and 10's. How were those other women below you? It seems like the cheerleader had the bad attitude here.
Bristolius Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I don't think I ever saw that one. 10 Characters
Anela Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Don't you remember that terrible movie with Dudley Moore and Bo Derek? I saw that movie when I was a kid. 10 (1979) - IMDb
Bristolius Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I saw that movie when I was a kid. 10 (1979) - IMDb The 1-10 scale has been around at least that long. It's also referenced in Annie Hall. A character says that, "All women are 10s." 1
Anela Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 The 1-10 scale has been around at least that long. It's also referenced in Annie Hall. A character says that, "All women are 10s." Did you see the comments on the board on that link? Someone called Bo Derek "average". 1
KungFuJoe Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Did you see the comments on the board on that link? Someone called Bo Derek "average". I wouldn't call Bo Derek a 10. Don't get me wrong...she's beautiful, but not my particular taste. And I was not a fan of her dreads or beaded braids or wherever she had going on in that movie, even though I liked the movie a lot (more to do with how awesome Dudley Moore was in it). A lot of people think Daryl Hannah is a 10 and my wife thinks she is straight up ugly.
Anela Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I wouldn't call Bo Derek a 10. Don't get me wrong...she's beautiful, but not my particular taste. And I was not a fan of her dreads or beaded braids or wherever she had going on in that movie, even though I liked the movie a lot (more to do with how awesome Dudley Moore was in it). A lot of people think Daryl Hannah is a 10 and my wife thinks she is straight up ugly. I found it funny. I never thought that Daryl Hannah was gorgeous, but I'm all for people seeing the attractiveness in people that aren't. Like Sarah Jessica Parker - so many people ready to insult her, and why? Why is so unacceptable to some, that she is a famous and in-demand actress? Just because she isn't a "ten" in their eyes? (that's a rhetorical question. It's something that bugs me, and I've encountered the attitude numerous times.) 1
Disenchantedly Yours Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 The 1-10 scale has been around at least that long. It's also referenced in Annie Hall. A character says that, "All women are 10s." Who cares. It's still stupid.
Content Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 When i go out i have my people put a velvet rope in front of me and only let 8's or up in 2
ImNotOliver Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I thought the rating women on a scale from 1-10 thing was only something immature guys in their early 20s did. I really don't understand a 50 year old man who rates women on a scale from 1-10. Coud you share a picture of yourself? I am very curious what you look like after all this scale rating you've talked about regarding other women. Actually I never think of women in terms of 1-10. I was just using it here because it is the convention that was being used. My own rating system is more binary - in the form of yes or no. At least 95% of women who I encounter are no's and personality and compatibility plays into my liking of a woman or not as much as looks. 1
ImNotOliver Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Just being honest about it.... It's an American males rite of passage to bang a few fatties, uglies, and crazies. It's part of the maturing process. Maybe a crazy but never a fat and/or ugly. Many times I've been thankful for the fact that I was good looking enough that I never had to have to settle for a fugly - ever.
Author DazedConfusedEtc Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 It does sound like you have a problem with women. I'm not a man-hater, and that goes for others, too. Why would you hate on the women he was with, because you don't find them attractive? Why is that hatred acceptable? Because it's just as bad, and could be its own Lifetime movie. Some of us feel like we're living in Lifetime movies, because members of our family are idiots. I won't respond to you any more, because I'm seeing my sister in you: the man can do no wrong, and women are scum if they don't feel the same way. Lol this is just getting funny. I absolutely don't hate women nor do I hate ugly women nor do I hate anyone ugly that my bf had sex with because I don't know any of them well. I was also very nice to this particular woman when I saw her. I'm sorry if your sister hates women or might have written something similar coming from a different place but that has nothing to do with me, your issues with your sister are your issues. Feel free to not respond though BC you seem to be looking for someone to take your problems out on. Anyway, to those of you who think a) that it's wrong to ever pass judgment based on someone's appearance or b)that it's wrong to pass judgment on a woman based on her appearance, you're entitled to your beliefs although I think you're being silly and completely unrealistic. Generally, people who think this way aren't very attractive, but not always -- sometimes they just have a degree from PCU.
Anela Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Lol this is just getting funny. I absolutely don't hate women nor do I hate ugly women nor do I hate anyone ugly that my bf had sex with because I don't know any of them well. I was also very nice to this particular woman when I saw her. I'm sorry if your sister hates women or might have written something similar coming from a different place but that has nothing to do with me, your issues with your sister are your issues. Feel free to not respond though BC you seem to be looking for someone to take your problems out on. I'm not looking for that. You're the one insulting these women on here. Anyway, to those of you who think a) that it's wrong to ever pass judgment based on someone's appearance or b)that it's wrong to pass judgment on a woman based on her appearance, you're entitled to your beliefs although I think you're being silly and completely unrealistic. Generally, people who think this way aren't very attractive, but not always -- sometimes they just have a degree from PCU. So, a hottie is a better person, just because of the way they look? I'm genuinely curious here.
Author DazedConfusedEtc Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 I'm not looking for that. You're the one insulting these women on here. So, a hottie is a better person, just because of the way they look? I'm genuinely curious here. Of course not! I'd even venture to say that a hottie is more likely to be a worse person because they've been socialized that way. I'm not talking about what makes someone a good person but what makes them a suitable partner -- attraction is only one piece of that but it's a prerequisite
ImNotOliver Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 And you've confirmed any fears they may have had: you say that they ruined your reputation, and you're better off spending time with 9's and 10's. How were those other women below you? It seems like the cheerleader had the bad attitude here. Throughout my life I’ve discovered that the women I get along with best and like the most tend to have professions such as teacher, dancer, singer, politician, model, spokesperson… That is they tend to have been women who made their living in the spotlight – which means I’m most attracted to a personality type. One thing that I’ve always thought is that how one is perceived and treated by others, especially as they were growing up has a profound difference on one’s personality. Just to simplify things let’s take the two extremes – a cute outgoing girl vs. a homely shy one. The cute girl, from the time she is born, growing up, and into adulthood is often treated nicely, often having people smile at her and give her compliments. To her this how the world works and in her interactions with others will often smile and be pleasant which only adds to her attractiveness. The homely girl on the other hand grows up without these positive enforcements which prevents her from developing socially as well as the cuter girls. I think the same goes for guys. I smile a lot because people tend to smile at me. I rarely see less attractive guys use their smile as a communication device. I always do. More than once I’ve been in situations where there was a woman who was getting a lot of attention from a lot of other men yet it was that looking at each other and smiling that set me, and thus us, apart from the other guys. Those girls that were below me were so because they couldn’t fit the role that I expected a woman in my life to play. The cheerleader and other girls like her played that role wonderfully.
tbf Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Can any guys explain this phenomenon to me? Any women get how I feel?I can't relate to the appearance issue but stupidity bothers me. It's difficult to respect anyone who would date stupid. 2
aMguilts Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Maybe a crazy but never a fat and/or ugly. Many times I've been thankful for the fact that I was good looking enough that I never had to have to settle for a fugly - ever. so the women you just described have no feelings and so should just be caste aside? I`m glad that you are `good looking` Your good looks will get you NOWHERE without a personallity keep on thinking you are a `player` noob aM
RedRobin Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 OP... There but through the grace of 'God' go you... Let's hope you never have the misfortune of getting into a car accident, or suffering an illness, or anything that might affect your precious looks and perhaps have the 'love' of a 'man' who uses women for fun seriously tested. 3
Author DazedConfusedEtc Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 OP... There but through the grace of 'God' go you... Let's hope you never have the misfortune of getting into a car accident, or suffering an illness, or anything that might affect your precious looks and perhaps have the 'love' of a 'man' who uses women for fun seriously tested. I've had an illness that left me looking horrible -- how is that relevant? I looked so bad that people averted their eyes, my skin wa sallow, I was losing my hair, I was covered in bruises. It didn't change my worth as a person but it made it very hard to attract a suitable partner. All PEOPLE, men and women, sometimes have sex for fun -- it's not using anyone unless you lie about your intentions
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