ltjg45 Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 Any guys reading this thread should take this as very strong evidence as to how *un*-shallow women actually tend to be when it comes to dating. Yes, wahine's list was several items long. But EVERY item in the list was something that a guy could take care of for not that much effort. I guarantee you that any guy with options will have a list of superficial qualities that a woman he dates "must" have that is at least as restrictive as wahine's. What's more: As much as wahine's list was a fairly "low bar" that isn't that hard to get over, everyone jumped on her for her list saying that is was shallow. I actually don't think that is right. First of all, keep in mind that she wrote the post for the struggling guys, and if you take her post as "advice" she makes sense. You really believe that these guys wouldn't improve their lot with women if they paid some attention to things such as style and grooming and coming across more confident and less insecure? Secondly, she is *in college*. Weren't we all a little shallow at that age? Thirdly, there are plenty of women on this forum who didn't have any "standards" in their partner when it came to things like having his life together and well, look how those relationships turned out. Going by "chemistry" didn't work out so well either. My take on this.... No because the female was never initially attracted to him to begin with. Esp. since females doesn't value looks as highly as men does. If women values personality higher than looks, then he is a catch to the OP. Apparently, she does value looks higher than personality hence why this "awesome man" is still single considering her opinion on the matter. Which, in a nutshell, means that he doesn't need to change to actually get most females. He already got what most women would want out of him anyway.
Lonely Ronin Posted February 13, 2013 Posted February 13, 2013 females doesn't value looks as highly as men does. I would love to find what ever person started this myth and kill them... Ok I'm kind of kidding and kind of not. Women value looks & style just as much as men do. it seems the only people who ever reiterate this myth are young guys, or guys who have a crappy dating life. 1
Author wahine Posted February 17, 2013 Author Posted February 17, 2013 I don't get why so many guys don't get this. I bet she means something like thermals, henleys, polos, casual button ups etc. Thank you!
Author wahine Posted February 17, 2013 Author Posted February 17, 2013 Well this thread started a pretty decent dialogue, which I'm happy about. Just to clarify/elaborate on certain points that were brought up... Yes, these all included my own personal "superficial" preferences... and I mentioned that in my original post. "One girl's opinion on how to increase your chances", and that the dealbreakers could (but aren't certain) to be the difference between a "no" and a "yes". I don't think that anybody following my list would decrease their chances of getting a date out of a girl. It's about looking like you take care of yourself, and all of the things on my list have at one point or another caused myself or one of my female friends to be discouraged from giving a guy the green light. If you feel like you look like you take care of yourself and your looks contradict my list, then by all means, keep up the good work and good luck to you.
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