charlietheginger Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 So i begun my experiment 18 months ago. I was 24%bf bloated and miserable looking. No women looked at me often times seemed to Go the other direction. So i took a yr off social activities. Cooked my own Food . Meat eggs fish fruits and veggies. Pulled My body fat down to 7%. I decided i was to thin And decided 10%bf was how i looked my best Being my face has highcheek bones and wide jawline To thin i looked anorexic. So here i am viens in biceps and visible abs when flexed. Ive been approached by a women at the park,gym and Grocery store. The last one is my current girlfriend. Out at about people call me "boss , chief, bro " Im a very shy quite person. Having low self esteem My entire life. My girlfriend adores me tells me She loves the shape of my face and body. I'm So happy as im finally becoming extroverted I make eye contact with people and socialize My personality is really taking a change for the best. The old me was very quite very not into people Around me becuase i always felt so ugly my conclusion is looks do matter. 7
mesmerized Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Thanks for making some sense into the lazy crowd here who are convinced having a good body won't change anything in their dating lives. Also, good job.
tealwindex Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 My conclusion is that confidence matters. (Looks don't hurt either though .) 3
its a lifestyle Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 I was at 7% last year, I'm upto 9% now after christmas and my birthday, plenty of alcohol and binge eating... my v-line has faded I'm not happy about that I'd like it back, so 7 is my goal again, I look my best at 7 because I've got the muscle to compensate so I don't look skinny.. I think it's to do with the gym too, lately I've been in the gym my workout have been 100% calisthenics since the start of 2010, so being in the gym I'm not burning those last few calories... I'll be back on the bar soon.
Author charlietheginger Posted February 12, 2013 Author Posted February 12, 2013 Thanks for making some sense into the lazy crowd here who are convinced having a good body won't change anything in their dating lives. Also, good job. i think the biggest change was as my body transformed My face transformed as well. My neck slimed down Helping my jawline show. my cheeks lost fat revealing cheekbones. As bodyfat drops and muscle builds your Face also becomes muscular or masculine as well
e40 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Thanks for making some sense into the lazy crowd here who are convinced having a good body won't change anything in their dating lives. Also, good job. Having a good body can make a big difference. But if a guy is awful in other ways, having a good body may not be enough.
mesmerized Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Having a good body can make a big difference. But if a guy is awful in other ways, having a good body may not be enough. obviously it's not enough but it gets your feet in the door. You want women to lust after you? Give them something to lust after for god's sake.
Author charlietheginger Posted February 12, 2013 Author Posted February 12, 2013 I was at 7% last year, I'm upto 9% now after christmas and my birthday, plenty of alcohol and binge eating... my v-line has faded I'm not happy about that I'd like it back, so 7 is my goal again, I look my best at 7 because I've got the muscle to compensate so I don't look skinny.. I think it's to do with the gym too, lately I've been in the gym my workout have been 100% calisthenics since the start of 2010, so being in the gym I'm not burning those last few calories... I'll be back on the bar soon. My problem was at 7%bf my viens really showed While working out it looked ugly. And my calves has Viens going down them into the ankles. At 10% i have Some viens in the biceps forearms i look not so Veiny as at 7%
Eternal Sunshine Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Congrats OP. Yes, having a good body is something anyone can do and it makes a HUGE difference. Even those who say that they prefer face over body; face transforms so much once you lose the extra fat. Bloated look is gone, your eyes and lips look bigger, your neck is slimmer. Not to mention clearer skin, glowing eyes, and many more subtle changes. Eat clean and lift heavy 1
MrNate 2.0 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 obviously it's not enough but it gets your feet in the door. You want women to lust after you? Give them something to lust after for god's sake. You mean my jelly rolls won't cut it?
its a lifestyle Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 My problem was at 7%bf my viens really showed While working out it looked ugly. And my calves has Viens going down them into the ankles. At 10% i have Some viens in the biceps forearms i look not so Veiny as at 7% The definition of my abs a 7% is absolutely beast compared to 9%-10% which I'm at now, when I shed the extra layer I get a really protruding v-line which I like... but it's hard to maintain because tuna gets boring after a while.. But like I said, it's because I've just started going to the gym after being strictly calisthenics for 3 years so I'm losing out on lots of cardio, that's why I'm finding it hard to get my v-line back how I want it.. but winter is almost over so I'll be back out on the bar soon enough Sorry for turning your thread into a fitness fanatic topic btw - stay motivated
Author charlietheginger Posted February 12, 2013 Author Posted February 12, 2013 Congrats OP. Yes, having a good body is something anyone can do and it makes a HUGE difference. Even those who say that they prefer face over body; face transforms so much once you lose the extra fat. Bloated look is gone, your eyes and lips look bigger, your neck is slimmer. Not to mention clearer skin, glowing eyes, and many morete subtle changes. Eat clean and lift heavy Eternal that exactly what happened. When i was Fat my eyes were puffy my face swollen neck swollen. Before losing the weight my eyes look more open. My lips Fuller my skin cleared up eyes actually glow. I swear the eyes have more color as well. I can see my adams apple and crease in my chin As well. after Message Boards 3
fortyninethousand322 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Thanks for making some sense into the lazy crowd here who are convinced having a good body won't change anything in their dating lives. Also, good job. Hasn't changed my dating life. I look like a white Ray Lewis and I couldn't get a date if my life depended on it. Heck, I got more attention when I was fat.
Jane2011 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 I was at my fattest at age 18/19. (Even though I first started working out at age 16, something happened around age 18 and 19 where I sort of stopped and let myself eat like crazy again and not work out; I started working out again at age 20 and have never stopped since then). Anyway, at age 18/19, I was so bloated looking. I have lots of pictures of myself from then, and when I look at them, I'm like...damn, I was so roly poly and there was so much flesh on my face. My eyes were all squished up. And it's true about how your skin gets worse. (When I started working out again at age 20, my skin got so glowy and pretty, eyes more sparkly, etc.) Being in shape is a huge part of what makes good-looking people good-looking.
Author charlietheginger Posted February 12, 2013 Author Posted February 12, 2013 I actually can see my eyes now Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
Eternal Sunshine Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Woah, what a change. You went from below average to hot 2
LittleTiger Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 All human beings are programmed to be attracted to the healthiest and, in general, more confident of our species - because they are the most likely to survive the longest. Overweight (and underweight) people are not healthy and very often not confident either, that's why they are less desirable as partners. External looks do matter because they give us a fair indication of the internal health of that person - it really is that simple. Confidence matters because it suggests emotional strength - also pretty simple. Add to that the fact that someone who takes care of their own body clearly values themselves and you have a very attractive combination. Congratulations on your transformation OP. You look fantastic.
camillalev Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Eternal that exactly what happened. When i was Fat my eyes were puffy my face swollen neck swollen. Before losing the weight my eyes look more open. My lips Fuller my skin cleared up eyes actually glow. I swear the eyes have more color as well. I can see my adams apple and crease in my chin As well. after Message Boards Wow, congrats Charlie! You're a very handsome man I love an 'ugly ducking to swan' transformation. I used to be considered below average and grew into my looks as I got older - I still think I look better with every passing year. I'm glad I didnt peak in high school, or wasn't always considered pretty or beautiful. It grounds me and made me an empathetic, non-superficial person. 1
Imported Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 i think the biggest change was as my body transformed My face transformed as well. My neck slimed down Helping my jawline show. my cheeks lost fat revealing cheekbones. As bodyfat drops and muscle builds your Face also becomes muscular or masculine as well I don't understand how this wasn't obvious to you 18+ months ago. Every time someone post yet another 'good face or good body', I am always amazed by people that would pick face. Most anybody leaned out has an attractive enough face.
SJC2008 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 From a fellow ginger: Man you're a good looking dude! 2
Author charlietheginger Posted February 12, 2013 Author Posted February 12, 2013 I don't understand how this wasn't obvious to you 18+ months ago. Every time someone post yet another 'good face or good body', I am always amazed by people that would pick face. Most anybody leaned out has an attractive enough face. Becuase i dont see whats in the mirrors or pictures. Atleast i didnt see it. the image when i looked in the Mirror was not me. I would see it for a second while Looking. Then as soon as i turned away i mentally Became fat again. At times i look at my girlfriend After we had sex and think im in a dream. when I wake up in the morning she will be gone and Ill be fat again...
pbjbear Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) I get told I am a 7 or 8 (a few 9's but I think they are lying) most of the time. My body fat is around 19 or 20% I have had little luck in dating. I have a Masters degree, pay for myself on my dates, get told I am funny, nice and kind too, with funny being the most common one My bodyfat hasnt really given me an advantage Edited February 12, 2013 by pbjbear
e40 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 obviously it's not enough but it gets your feet in the door. You want women to lust after you? Give them something to lust after for god's sake. Point being it doesn't necessarily get you in the door. Some guys have to do much more to even get their foot in the door.
pbjbear Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Point being it doesn't necessarily get you in the door. Some guys have to do much more to even get their foot in the door. False Looks arent as important to women Men place more emphasis on looks than women do and are pickier about their partners' looks overall. Did you know studies show men place looks in the top 3 traits for a woman who he will consider marrying...for women, its in the top 10. Studies show marriages where the wife is more attractive than the husband are rated the most satisfactory by both the husband and wife. A guy needs to have a hotter woman than him to be happy I feel no sympathy for men who bitch about their looks. If you want to look good, fine, do the stuff to make it happen. The things women are attracted to? You can always cultivate those traits. You obviously dont know much about women, women look at things other than looks. A good personality can make up for looks with women. Not with men. How many men do you know that have girlfriends that are below their league looks-wise? I have known two. Nowadays men feel entitled to a woman HOTTER than him, her being on the same level isnt good enough it seems. I see women with men below their looks all the time and these men aint rich or famous either. They have a good personality. Being a woman sucks, because we are valued for nothing more than our looks. Even a woman who takes care of herself in her 40's wont be deemed valuable anymore. We have a set window for our prime and when its over, thats it, its done with. Men dont have that. For women, it doesnt matter how smart, nice, confident we are, or how much $ we make...its all about the looks. Edited February 12, 2013 by pbjbear 2
e40 Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 False Looks arent as important to women Men place more emphasis on looks than women do and are pickier about their partners' looks overall. Did you know studies show men place looks in the top 3 traits for a woman who he will consider marrying...for women, its in the top 10. Studies show marriages where the wife is more attractive than the husband are rated the most satisfactory by both the husband and wife. A guy needs to have a hotter woman than him to be happy I feel no sympathy for men who bitch about their looks. If you want to look good, fine, do the stuff to make it happen. The things women are attracted to? You can always cultivate those traits. You obviously dont know much about women, women look at things other than looks. A good personality can make up for looks with women. Not with men. How many men do you know that have girlfriends that are below their league looks-wise? I have known two. Nowadays men feel entitled to a woman HOTTER than him, her being on the same level isnt good enough it seems. I see women with men below their looks all the time and these men aint rich or famous either. They have a good personality. Being a woman sucks, because we are valued for nothing more than our looks. Even a woman who takes care of herself in her 40's wont be deemed valuable anymore. We have a set window for our prime and when its over, thats it, its done with. Men dont have that. For women, it doesnt matter how smart, nice, confident we are, or how much $ we make...its all about the looks. It's terribly frustrating but aren't you being harsh towards men? I have seen it all. Women looking better, men looking better, but most often similar looking. Women do look better on average so there are more with the woman looking better. There are also men who can't get a girlfriend if their life depended upon it. Being a man is no picnic either but we are what we are. I've seen women in their 40s do just fine so it doesn't have to be hopeless at that age. It can be a jungle out there but don't let that discourage you. You have a lot to offer and the right guy will not just appreciate it, but love it.
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