singlelife Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 Is it possible to match up with someone who is on a different plain than you?
Author singlelife Posted February 10, 2013 Author Posted February 10, 2013 In 1. Dating 2. Decision making 3. Career paths
JuneJulySeptember Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 For romantic and platonic, yes. For most people.
Author singlelife Posted February 10, 2013 Author Posted February 10, 2013 Of course. Everyone is a product of their environment, and socioeconomic status affects your environment pretty drastically. Even people who do manage to attain some class mobility (which is increasingly difficult in the US, by the way) are still shaped by where they came from; I don't see how that could not effect their dating, career path, or decision-making. Which is not to say that people from different SES backgrounds can never date successfully, just that it's an obstacle. A book that I might get around to reading some day is Crossing the Tracks for Love, by Ruby Payne. Please give detailed examples. I appreciate it ahead of time.
Casablanca Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 They sort of matter, but they don't I require a girl who is motivated and educated You can become educated even if you come from a poor background. I don't care if your parents are poor and your the first in your family to make it to and graduate college; if your educated and goal oriented we have a chance 2
todreaminblue Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 Is it possible to match up with someone who is on a different plain than you? I dont believe it should make a difference, i agree with the other poster that it is an obstacle, then obstacles were meant to be mounted....d.e.b
StanMusial Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 I think it varies between male and female. Females are more likely to go with someone from a higher socioeconomic status than themselves than males. I'm not saying it is right or wrong but that's what I've observed.
darkmoon Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 i'd be careful not to fund a moocher, men probably feel the same about women, just dating is ok but moving in and paying for all the bills i'd never do again, i wouldn't recommend it
soccerrprp Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 To me a girl having a college education is a dealbreaker. I only want to date working class girls. I'd much rather date a girl working at a mcdonalds than a girl who is getting her masters or whatever in college. WHY????? I'm dating a woman who didn't go to college and is very intelligent. As or more intelligent than most of the women whom I've dated with degrees.... Educated, yes, a must, but a degree doesn't guarantee that...
StanMusial Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 I understand your sarcasm, but I disagree with the message. Just because a person isn't educated doesn't mean that they aren't smart. I'm very highly educated and many of the people I met in college and grad school were not very intelligent. Some of the most intelligent people I've ever met don't even have a bachelor's. I have two college degrees. The job I do, I learned most of the skills I needed by doing the job, by studying on my own (AFTER school) and by hustling. But you can't get your foot in the door most places unless you have a degree. I'm convinced that college in this day and age is more or less a scam. 2
Woggle Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 It doesn't matter to me as long as she is not a snob who looks down on working class people because in reality they do the needed grunt work of society. 1
Pyro Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Is it possible to match up with someone who is on a different plain than you? In 1. Dating 2. Decision making 3. Career paths All depends on her passion, motivation, and dedication to the list.
callingyouuu Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Socioeconomic status will always matter at least a little. To what degree it matters depends on the person, and there's a pretty wide range. I find that those who grow up in families with long lines of college education tend to be more stringent in educational requirements for significant others. I'm convinced that college in this day and age is more or less a scam. This is off-topic, but for those reading who are on the fence about a college education, I disagree. College is what you make of it. Don't get sucked into an expensive school just for its name, but I regret absolutely nothing about choosing to go to college. Edited February 11, 2013 by callingyouuu
TaraMaiden Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Is it possible to match up with someone who is on a different plain than you? ('plane' not 'plain'.....#3... ) 1
StanMusial Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 This is off-topic, but for those reading who are on the fence about a college education, I disagree. College is what you make of it. Don't get sucked into an expensive school just for its name, but I regret absolutely nothing about choosing to go to college. I enjoyed my college experience. I think the scam part involves convincing people that taking on huge amounts of debt to finance an education will pay off in the long run. I was fortunate that didn't happen to me. I worked my way through college and went to an in-state school. I know people in their 40's that are still paying off college loans... and I know some people that have told me they never intend to repay. LOL. 1
Sanman Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Does it matter? Absolutely. Though different amounts to different people. Personally, it is very important to me. Both your background and your current status. I tend to mesh well with middle class/pper middle class people who ended up doing well professionally as that is my background. Hence, my gf and both know the value of a dollar and like to save. We are also both in careers that are more monetarily rewarding than our parents. Thus, we will be comfortable and have similar ideas about how we would like to use our money. A large part of a relationship comes down to expectations of settling down and raising a family. I have seen it become a problem for a number of couples when one person works harder, makes more, and wants more than their partner. I have also seen those from upper middle class/wealthy backgrounds that do not have the skills to make such incomes themselves. A taste for the finer things in life without the income to afford said things is a combination that I try to stay away from ( as I have been burned). To each their own though.
tbf Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Depends on the person and their comfort level within different environments. Some have the capability to chameleon to any environment, while others have greater, to much greater difficulty.
miss_jaclynrae Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 I have dated men in stable CAREERS, men who have already graduated from college, and men who merely worked in retail. It has never mattered to me. Compatibility is based on many factors, you can find a man who has a degree but has the worst work ethic ever, and I would rather date the man who works hard in retail. There is so much more than to where they lie, it's more so the maturity of the individuals, the goals, and the overall morals and characteristics of the man himself. As for where he lies on the socioeconomic scale, it doesn't matter much to me in the slightest. Everyone has their own views though. I have been on the lower scale [i don't make GREAT money, come from a middle class hardworking family though who does well, I go to school and work full time to support myself]. Do I want an educated man? Yes, do I require one? No, but how a man holds himself in societies eyes is also something that I care about. Educated doesn't always mean he needs a degree to me.
TaurusTerp Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 This is off-topic, but for those reading who are on the fence about a college education, I disagree. College is what you make of it. Don't get sucked into an expensive school just for its name, but I regret absolutely nothing about choosing to go to college. Right...even if it is a scam, it's necessary for 99% of the population to have any earning potential. Ie, not the Mark Zuckerbergs of the world.
miss_jaclynrae Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 As someone who just recently started college, I think it is something everyone should do. After 5 years working in retail, I look at those older who do it as a career and hate the idea of doing it for the rest of my life. Thus WHY I am getting myself a college education. To get a career in something I love, I am lucky though, because as of now, I don't have to pay for school due to federal aide. My boyfriend however has 30000 already out in student loans and he isn't even onto his masters yet.
Leigh 87 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) I don't care if their from the worst town and are dirt poor, AS LONG as: - They aspire towards a career, either a college education or a legitimate job that will allow them to support themselves - They have to be in the PROCESS of getting their education and/or career on track ....Poor people from bad backgrounds can have hopes and dreams too; if they work hard towards it why not date them, if you feel a spark? Edited February 11, 2013 by Leigh 87
Leigh 87 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 As someone who just recently started college, I think it is something everyone should do. After 5 years working in retail, I look at those older who do it as a career and hate the idea of doing it for the rest of my life. Thus WHY I am getting myself a college education. To get a career in something I love, I am lucky though, because as of now, I don't have to pay for school due to federal aide. My boyfriend however has 30000 already out in student loans and he isn't even onto his masters yet. Me too. I have recently started college, at age 26. I tried and deferred before, because I was not totally sure what I wanted to do with my life, and I assumed there must be a quicker way to getting a good career that does not requre a college degree. There are other good career options that do not need a college degree, but you have to be: - a man, and be very good at driving escavators. This pays 2000 - 2500 plus per week. - get into a mining site. That is also well paid, if your a male or a female who would be a good candidate to be a dump truck driver. I also know young women who make a living from: - child care - as travel agents - from retail related jobs -from bar work. - as waitresses ...The thing is, retail and bar work... you need A LOT of experience to get a good enough reputation for people in Australia to hire you. You MUST start when your young, age 18, or NO ONE will hire you if you have no experience and your in your mid 20s looking or bar work.... Seriously - I have ten years experience in hospitality, with a year experience behind a bar - AND I CANNOT EVEN GET INTERVIEWS for bar work, or waitressing positions. Not at age 26. They want younger people. Or people my age with even MORE experience than myself. And I have a professional resume made.
Leigh 87 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Childcare, community service/charity work, and travel sales (being a travel agent) are the ONLY career paths would be interested im, minus a college degree. They all take at LEAST two years to attain a cert 2 or 3 in anyway! A degree is not much longer and I can go on and get a masters and be really qualified and have more job security. Plus there are more degree related careers that I am more passionate about than the certificates I mentioned.
miss_jaclynrae Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 You forgot sales, you can make a ton of money working in sales without a college degree I got a friend who is a multi millionaire (started as sales agent, became an executive) with no college degree and a former boss who was 24 years old and making 130K a sales manager with no college degree Honestly to get any job that makes decent money without a degree, it requires networking. What exactly are those people selling btw? It takes a lot of work and almost no personal time to truly be successful in sales. You always talk about sales and how much money you or people you know make... but never say what KIND of sales.
miss_jaclynrae Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 The multimillionaire worked in business to business sales...selling GPS devices to financial companies to secure their assets. I know a lot of guys in car sales who earn 80-150K and above with no degree Also strongly disagree about "no personal time"... he never worked more than 40-50 hours a week. Networking is important in some areas but not really in other areas. Business to business sales, networking is not important because how many people are you going to meet who own businesses? That all comes down to confidence, work ethic and social skills Really? Please tell me whether he was in independent sales and tell me the name of these gps devices and the companies he sells them too. I can tell you right now that at the beginning of his career he had NO social life, there is no way any sales person goes straight into sales and makes thousands of dollars while still only working 40-50 hours a week. I am in car sales and in a month where I made 5000 I was at work almost every day bell to bell and was also on the phone quite a bit with customers outside of work as well. I call bull****. Any sales requires a customer base, and unless you get lucky, or work your ass off to build it... you can bet your bottom dollar you won't have any personal time for a while. So please, tell me, what do YOU do for work. Because I smell bull. 1
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