xxoo Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Your assumptions about this couple say more about you than them. 5
crude Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 According to statistics, more than 1/2 of all medical students in many countries are now female. It's time for macho men to drop the foolish pride and get themselves a nice doctor to marry. Nothing wrong with a woman being able to give a man a nice life like men have been doing for women. Are you men up to the task of being homemakers?
Treasa Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 What's really sad is that I am completely optimistic about people, and tend to usually see the good in them, but despite knowing nothing about you, such as what you look like, what you do for a living, what your economic status is, etc., I don't see you as being attractive in any way, shape, or form. You've actually managed to convince me that you aren't worth dating, and that is something that is ridiculously hard for someone to convince me of. I guess if that was your goal, well done you?
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 Your assumptions about this couple say more about you than them. What's really sad is that I am completely optimistic about people, and tend to usually see the good in them, but despite knowing nothing about you, such as what you look like, what you do for a living, what your economic status is, etc., I don't see you as being attractive in any way, shape, or form. You've actually managed to convince me that you aren't worth dating, and that is something that is ridiculously hard for someone to convince me of. I guess if that was your goal, well done you? I just don't live in denial. That's all.
Yamcha Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 I see your point, June. I would have immediate repulsion to anyone who just sees guys as a walking ATM machine. But the others are right that you're not seeing the full picture. Sure, maybe she is just looking to bleed him dry. Time will tell, on this one. We shall see if divorce rape is down the road. But let's face facts, bro. There are a ****-ton of dudes that ain't exactly rolling in the dough that are still in successful relationships. My brother and several of my friends are among them. They almost certainly make less money than you. And only one of 'em is more physically attractive than me, before you bring that up. Have you seen DJ Tiesto's pic and read about the money he makes? Don't really wanna single the dude out, but he's the perfect example of how a negative attitude is the problem.
Treasa Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 I just don't live in denial. That's all. Yet, ironically, the one time you jokingly commented about us going out for Ethiopian food I thought to myself that you were attractive. Nothing has changed except for your continuing negative attitude.
KathyM Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Women are attracted to men who are high achievers, intelligent, accomplished, etc. He likely has other great qualities too. The more qualities the guy has, the more attractive he is to women, and accomplishment/prestige is definately a quality. It's not just looks that attracts people. I know several beautiful women who are with average-looking men because of the guy's personality. There are many things that attract a woman, and accomplishment is one of them. 2
StanMusial Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 I see your point, June. I would have immediate repulsion to anyone who just sees guys as a walking ATM machine. But the others are right that you're not seeing the full picture. Sure, maybe she is just looking to bleed him dry. Time will tell, on this one. We shall see if divorce rape is down the road. But let's face facts, bro. There are a ****-ton of dudes that ain't exactly rolling in the dough that are still in successful relationships. My brother and several of my friends are among them. They almost certainly make less money than you. And only one of 'em is more physically attractive than me, before you bring that up. Have you seen DJ Tiesto's pic and read about the money he makes? Don't really wanna single the dude out, but he's the perfect example of how a negative attitude is the problem. Pyro exposed DJToaster as a fraud. The photo he posted wasn't him; he lifted it off a bodybuilding forum. The other photo posted by Pyro was a different person altogether. These things were confirmed by other posters who followed him here from another forum. He probably lied about his income as well... rumor has it he is a used car salesman. DJT's problem with women is that he wants the upper middle to top tier type of girl and he is in a lower range himself. Back OT, I have seen this scenario play out so I get where JJS is coming from. I'm neither inspired or depressed about it. It is what is is. You have to have something to offer whether it be money or looks or you can't attract someone. 3
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 Yet, ironically, the one time you jokingly commented about us going out for Ethiopian food I thought to myself that you were attractive. Nothing has changed except for your continuing negative attitude. Just because I point out the truth of the way the vast majority and how they live by the food chain rules doesn't mean that I do the same myself. Also, I am capable of seeing that a select view do not live by those rules. I have made that evident here. Remember. When I first saw the couple, I thought it was a positive example. Only later when I found out he was a doctor did I realize that it was just another food chain example. If somebody thinks that's a coincidence, then I just think that's blind.
normal person Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) So, one of my Facebook friends who is about 33 years old or so is fairly attractive, probably a solid 6. A 7 maybe if you're into her type. So, a while ago, pics started showing up on her page with this guy. He's short, and a little pudgy, and dresses pretty badly. Pretty nerdy looking actually. And I was like, "Wow, are they dating?" I mean, it wasn't even THAT glaring of a difference. Same race, same height. But still, she could do better physically, you know. You should be inspired -- to become a doctor, achieve something, or have some nice quality that's attractive to other people. Instead you're sad to learn that the girl didn't like the guy for no reason at all? Am I the only one that's perplexed by this? With all the threads started just to complain about how girls only date good looking guys, I'm surprised to see one complaining that a girl's (supposedly) only with a guy because he's a doctor. What's there to complain about here? That you didn't become a doctor and therefore it's unfair? That girls like guys with skills and aspirations as opposed to those that don't? As someone else said, becoming a doctor is something that's within your control. You think this situation reaffirms the belief that girls like guys for the their money, when in it's really reafirming the fact that if you work hard enough or have some desirable attributes, girls will overlook the fact that you're not a male model. Plus to just assume that he's a doctor and is therefore no more than a walking wallet is a huge snap judgement. You know how he got to be a doctor? He had to go through years of med school and study his ass off. It's pretty evident that he's incredibly smart and diligent if he did that. Those are nice qualities, I'm sure his fiancé recognized them. You don't even know this guy, you can't even look at his facebook page (like that would give you the whole picture anyways), how do you know he's not a great person overall? Medicine is a pretty compassionate field, I've never met a doctor who was a jerk. I don't see how you can't give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Resentment towards good looking guys and the girls who like them for only that reason, I understand even if I don't necessarily agree. Resentment towards guys who do something great rather than sit around complaining? That's something I'll never comprehend. What's next? A thread titled "Girls only like guys who are handsome, have nice jobs, work hard, are reasonable, and don't complain about stupid crap" ? Edited February 7, 2013 by normal person
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 You should be inspired -- to become a doctor, achieve something, or have some nice quality that's attractive to other people. Instead you're sad to learn that the girl didn't like the guy for no reason at all? Am I the only one that's perplexed by this? With all the threads started just to complain about how girls only date good looking guys, I'm surprised to see one complaining that a girl's (supposedly) only with a guy because he's a doctor. What's there to complain about here? That you didn't become a doctor and therefore it's unfair? That girls like guys with skills and aspirations as opposed to those that don't? As someone else said, becoming a doctor is something that's within your control. You think this situation reaffirms the belief that girls like guys for the their money, when in it's really reafirming the fact that if you work hard enough or have some desirable attributes, girls will overlook the fact that you're not a male model. Plus to just assume that he's a doctor and is therefore no more than a walking wallet is a huge snap judgement. You know how he got to be a doctor? He had to go through years of med school and study his ass off. It's pretty evident that he's incredibly smart and diligent if he did that. Those are nice qualities, I'm sure his fiancé recognized them. You don't even know this guy, you can't even look at his facebook page (like that would give you the whole picture anyways), how do you know he's not a great person overall? Medicine is a pretty compassionate field, I've never met a doctor who was a jerk. I don't see how you can't give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Resentment towards good looking guys and the girls who like them for only that reason, I understand even if I don't necessarily agree. Resentment towards guys who do something great rather than sit around complaining? That's something I'll never comprehend. What's next? A thread titled "Girls only like guys who are handsome, have nice jobs, work hard, are reasonable, and don't complain about stupid crap" ? That is a valid point. And I do agree with you. I could have become a doctor. In general, you're right. I don't feel resentment towards guys who are doctors, because they did earn it. This thread was just more to point out the never ending 'get the best you can get food chain' but your point is valid.
serial muse Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Just because I point out the truth of the way the vast majority and how they live by the food chain rules doesn't mean that I do the same myself. Also, I am capable of seeing that a select view do not live by those rules. I have made that evident here. Remember. When I first saw the couple, I thought it was a positive example. Only later when I found out he was a doctor did I realize that it was just another food chain example. If somebody thinks that's a coincidence, then I just think that's blind. I think it's interesting that you absolutely assume that it's just his money that got him the girl. You don't know anything about them, but this is what you choose to assume. And anyone who points out that this is an assumption is met with "I don't live in denial." But you do. You're denying any other interpretations than the grimmest one. You think that makes you a realist? Because I don't. You are busily digging a hole for yourself. 1
sweetjasmine Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 What's next? A thread titled "Girls only like guys who are handsome, have nice jobs, work hard, are reasonable, and don't complain about stupid crap" ? That's basically all these threads are. "Why do women like men with positive qualities that I don't have?!?!? It's not fair!!!!!". Okay, so assume OP is absolutely right and that this is an example of his "food chain" or whatever you want to call it. Assume this "food chain" exists and that every relationship fits that pattern. Assume it's an indisputable fact, a law of nature. ...now what? Complain about it some more? Might as well complain about Newton's laws of motion and Planck's constant being, like, totally unfair. 3
xxoo Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 This thread was just more to point out the never ending 'get the best you can get food chain' but your point is valid. Based on your assumptions of their relationship as a facebook voyeur You have no idea how she feels about him, or why she loves him. You just assume the worst. That is not realistic. That's cynical and contemptuous. 2
Estate Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Could we just hold up a minute here.... So the OP is claiming the undeniable truth(?) that only 2 things matter in life: 1. Looks 2. Career Nothing else in the spectrum of human emotions, qualities or abilities matter in any inconceivable way??? So here are a few things we can do which we conveniently ignored first time I posted in this thread: 1. Looks: Looks are subject, what I like, you won't like and we can't change our physical features... granted. But style, exercise and diet account for such a HUGE portion of how someone is perceived. ALL of those things are completely within anyone's grasp of fixing. But I'm guessing going out for a run is too much trouble for the OP when he could be on LS.org for hours bitching about how the world is against him. 2. Career Again, totally within the OP's control. So this guy is a doctor. Women only like doctors and no man of any other profession has ever had a hookup, girlfriend or wife in the history of humanity before apparently. So we tell the OP to go do something about it, study to become a doctor. Apply yourself and there's no reason you can't be a doctor. So again, the OP didn't reply to that of course. But he DOES say that he has a high profile career so that we don't think he's just a garbage man... thus negating his whole point... women like status, so he can't get women... then he goes on to tell us how well educated and what a great career path he's on... So tell me again why this doctor has a fiance and the OP doesn't? Because we've just covered why the 2 points above are BS. My guess is that this doctor guy has a great career and fiance because he's a great guy, probably friendly, nice, treats her well, is well educated, applies himself and has a positive attitude. He spent his years studying and working hard to get where he is and YES that is perceived in a very positive way by women.... whereas the OP is spending the same time posting thread after thread whinging that he can't get the same woman he didn't even want 5 months ago. Come on people.... can we get back to real life now????
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