JuneJulySeptember Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 So, I had a date on Thursday, and I hooked up. This confirms some truths that many on this site refuse to admit. 1) Nobody in real life can tell that you are bitter or whiny, lack confidence or self-esteem, are a misogynist, etc online. All of the people here who are telling you that your personality sucks, and that women can smell bitter men from a mile away, and that's why you are not getting women, don't buy into it. That is not the reason. I'm pretty sure your real life personality is fine. 2) It's mostly about looks and women are picky. Just keep at it and try and stay reasonably within your stretch on the food chain. Do that, and take your rejections. 3) I wish there was more to life than #2, but that's pretty much it. It's a dog eat dog game on the food chain.
KungFuJoe Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 So, I had a date on Thursday, and I hooked up. This confirms some truths that many on this site refuse to admit. 1) Nobody in real life can tell that you are bitter or whiny, lack confidence or self-esteem, are a misogynist, etc online. All of the people here who are telling you that your personality sucks, and that women can smell bitter men from a mile away, and that's why you are not getting women, don't buy into it. That is not the reason. I'm pretty sure your real life personality is fine. 2) It's mostly about looks and women are picky. Just keep at it and try and stay reasonably within your stretch on the food chain. Do that, and take your rejections. 3) I wish there was more to life than #2, but that's pretty much it. It's a dog eat dog game on the food chain. LOL at you got lucky ONCE and all of a sudden NOBODY can tell you're bitter or whiny. Great sample size there, pal. 2
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 LOL at you got lucky ONCE and all of a sudden NOBODY can tell you're bitter or whiny. Great sample size there, pal. Lol. Getting lucky ONCE would change life for a lot of these guys. Remember? I'm just saying. Posters ride down on these whiny, frustrated guys with low self esteem, and pretty soon they start thinking they're horrible people and women don't like them because they're off-putting and horrible. It ain't true. Those guys are like that BECAUSE women rejected them. Not vice versa.
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 Are you gonna call her again? Of course. 1
sillyanswer Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 So, I had a date on Thursday, Great news!
KungFuJoe Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Lol. Getting lucky ONCE would change life for a lot of these guys. Remember? I'm just saying. Posters ride down on these whiny, frustrated guys with low self esteem, and pretty soon they start thinking they're horrible people and women don't like them because they're off-putting and horrible. It ain't true. Those guys are like that BECAUSE women rejected them. Not vice versa. Let me put it this way. If you got lucky even with your bitter attitude...imagine how much BETTER you would do with a positive attitude. Posters aren't riding down on anyone around. You guys joined this forum already with your bitter and frustrated dispositions LONG before. Most of us have been trying to tell you to change your attitude and outlook but you guys don't want to hear that. You just want to be spoonfed and burped. 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Lol. Getting lucky ONCE would change life for a lot of these guys. Remember? I'm just saying. Posters ride down on these whiny, frustrated guys with low self esteem, and pretty soon they start thinking they're horrible people and women don't like them because they're off-putting and horrible. It ain't true. Those guys are like that BECAUSE women rejected them. Not vice versa. Women can sense insecure, inexperienced, bitter, etc. men because evolution has honed their traits to sense and not be attracted to those guys. Evolution never honed their skills to turn away from more dangerous "dutchbaggy" guys (though some do have that skill) because traditionally those were the types of men who had favorable traits and thus were more attractive.
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 Women can sense insecure, inexperienced, bitter, etc. men because evolution has honed their traits to sense and not be attracted to those guys. Evolution never honed their skills to turn away from more dangerous "dutchbaggy" guys (though some do have that skill) because traditionally those were the types of men who had favorable traits and thus were more attractive. Bitter, no. Insecure and inexperienced, yes, if you are dumb enough to let on those things in real conversation. Like continuously putting yourself down or saying how bad you are with women. Don't do that. What I'm saying is if I can do it, you can do it. You don't have completely overhaul your personality. Just go out and do it.
fortyninethousand322 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Bitter, no. Insecure and inexperienced, yes, if you are dumb enough to let on those things in real conversation. Like continuously putting yourself down or saying how bad you are with women. Don't do that. I think women can literally sense it. Without you saying anything. Like a sixth sense. Actually considering how many extra sense women have it's probably their 8th or 9th sense...
somedude81 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Congrats JJS. And yes, nobody can tell somebody is bitter unless that person is actually acting like a bitter fool. I also agree with you that they can tell if a guy is insecure and inexperienced
superb Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Of course. I'm glad youre calling her back. Good luck!
SJC2008 Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 I've personally never been accused of being bitter on this site but at times my frustration has come accross that way IMO. I'd say I'm cynical, a realist that se live in a dog eat dog world,but I beleive and know there are good people out there. As far as women having these magical powers to read men that's just not true. If they could "read" men so well they'd know joe blow was gonna stick around after they shagged on date 3.Unless you make comments against the other gender you won't come accross as bitter. Women do have an advantage over men in a major area and it's reading body language, this is a fact, albeit on an unconscious level. If you have nervous body language like being tense or making jerky, non fluid movements they will notice it and may be turned off by it since they're 'security seeking creatures'.
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Congrats JJS. And yes, nobody can tell somebody is bitter unless that person is actually acting like a bitter fool. I also agree with you that they can tell if a guy is insecure and inexperienced Thanks. It could be you. Just remember the rules of the game and play the odds. I'm glad youre calling her back. Good luck! Lol. Funny how you automatically assumed I would dog her. I don't do that. I may be whiny and lack self esteem at times, but I always treat women with respect. I'm never in it for a cheap hookup. It's mostly the other guys who are desired, with non-ending self confidence and chutzpah and never whine, never get fazed by rejection that pump and dump women. Being bitter and whiny has nothing to do with whether you are a good guy or not. Edited February 2, 2013 by JuneJulySeptember
KungFuJoe Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Thanks. It could be you. Just remember the rules of the game and play the odds. Lol. Funny how you automatically assumed I would dog her. I don't do that. I may be whiny and lack self esteem at times, but I always treat women with respect. I'm never in it for a cheap hookup. It's mostly the other guys who are desired, with non-ending self confidence and chutzpah and never whine, never get fazed by rejection that pump and dump women. No...it's not. You guys and the guys who "pump and dump" are the extreme opposite ends of the spectrum, but you each have your own "issues". It's illustrated in that show Two And A Half Men. Both brothers have mommy issues, but one brother is more attractive and has a more "aggressive" nature than the other and he becomes the womanizer while the other is more passive. But each has their own issues with women and relationships. MOST people fall somewhere in between in the "normal" spectrum. 2
superb Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Thanks. It could be you. Just remember the rules of the game and play the odds. Lol. Funny how you automatically assumed I would dog her. I don't do that. I may be whiny and lack self esteem at times, but I always treat women with respect. I'm never in it for a cheap hookup. It's mostly the other guys who are desired, with non-ending self confidence and chutzpah and never whine, never get fazed by rejection that pump and dump women. Being bitter and whiny has nothing to do with whether you are a good guy or not. I didnt assume. Not trying to be mean but 1st date sex failed me, even with a mature/grown/respectable man so I'm skeptical.
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 No...it's not. You guys and the guys who "pump and dump" are the extreme opposite ends of the spectrum, but you each have your own "issues". It's illustrated in that show Two And A Half Men. Both brothers have mommy issues, but one brother is more attractive and has a more "aggressive" nature than the other and he becomes the womanizer while the other is more passive. But each has their own issues with women and relationships. MOST people fall somewhere in between in the "normal" spectrum. Of course. Nothing is ever black and white. But unsuccessful and 'nice' guys are much less likely to dog women. I didnt assume. Not trying to be mean but 1st date sex failed me, even with a mature/grown/respectable man so I'm skeptical. Oh. I didn't think you were being mean. I think women can ALWAYS pick a man who doesn't dog them. For me, as a guy, it is very easy to tell which guys will dog a woman which guys won't. I would certainly never dog you, even if you were MUCH less attractive than you are.
Keenly Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 I'm still going with confidence and personality is the name of the game. My looks come into play later on. Say, after the first date or so, that's when they truly start to kick in. Before that even happens though, I would have already established that I am intelligent, charming, witty, and a gentlemen. That is why she would have said yea to the date in the first place. Then when I show up to said date, looking damn sexy, that's when it all comes together.
superb Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Of course. Nothing is ever black and white. But unsuccessful and 'nice' guys are much less likely to dog women. Oh. I didn't think you were being mean. I think women can ALWAYS pick a man who doesn't dog them. For me, as a guy, it is very easy to tell which guys will dog a woman which guys won't. I would certainly never dog you, even if you were MUCH less attractive than you are. Hah, well I've been known to turn off men who would otherwise adore me-by speaking my mind.
ThaWholigan Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Maybe this girl actually thinks you're attractive. Simple theory. Not every girl will think of you as lowly as you apparently think of yourself. Chin up and smile, my friend . 1
StanMusial Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 Good job. On a side note, I think everyone gets frustrated now and again. If not with dating and relationships then maybe in their career or professional life or some other pursuit. I guess LS is a good a place as any to vent. With that being said, constant bitching without doing anything about it is definitely not going to garner much sympathy. Also, sometimes we just have to accept our limitations if we can't find a way to work around them. 2
serial muse Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 So, I had a date on Thursday, and I hooked up. This confirms some truths that many on this site refuse to admit. 1) Nobody in real life can tell that you are bitter or whiny, lack confidence or self-esteem, are a misogynist, etc online. All of the people here who are telling you that your personality sucks, and that women can smell bitter men from a mile away, and that's why you are not getting women, don't buy into it. That is not the reason. I'm pretty sure your real life personality is fine. 2) It's mostly about looks and women are picky. Just keep at it and try and stay reasonably within your stretch on the food chain. Do that, and take your rejections. 3) I wish there was more to life than #2, but that's pretty much it. It's a dog eat dog game on the food chain. So, you had a happy experience, and you decided to come here and spread your message of...um, joy? What exactly are you saying about this particular woman with whom you hooked up? That she's picky but that you stuck with it and she's reasonably within your stretch on the food chain? Sweet. Come on, man, can't you muster up a little happiness at least? You had a good date, why diminish it with the above? What would it take for you to be happy?
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted February 2, 2013 Author Posted February 2, 2013 So, you had a happy experience, and you decided to come here and spread your message of...um, joy? What exactly are you saying about this particular woman with whom you hooked up? That she's picky but that you stuck with it and she's reasonably within your stretch on the food chain? Sweet. Come on, man, can't you muster up a little happiness at least? You had a good date, why diminish it with the above? What would it take for you to be happy? Her story remains to be seen. Hey. I don't make up the rules of the game. But I learn how to play better every day. 1
Necris Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 Let me put it this way. If you got lucky even with your bitter attitude...imagine how much BETTER you would do with a positive attitude. Posters aren't riding down on anyone around. You guys joined this forum already with your bitter and frustrated dispositions LONG before. Most of us have been trying to tell you to change your attitude and outlook but you guys don't want to hear that. You just want to be spoonfed and burped. I think JuneJulySeptember has a point its highly unlikely secret bitterness and negativity is making him unattractive to women, they aren't psychic, and unless you display these traits openly they won't even think about them, negativity only effects things in a long-term relationship when the person knows you better not when they first see you. Think about it even straight up psychopaths can attract women. Anyway congrats JuneJulySeptember. I'm quite sure I'm not going to be doing any of that anytime soon, I maybe lucky enough to get a single date some time in the near future that will in all likelihood not go anywhere. Some people might call this overly pessimistic but I call it realistic, nothing wrong with being realistic here. 2
ltjg45 Posted February 3, 2013 Posted February 3, 2013 2) It's mostly about looks and women are picky. Just keep at it and try and stay reasonably within your stretch on the food chain. Do that, and take your rejections. Well, that explains why I'm a 26-year old virgin, now does it? Oh well.
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