pbjbear Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Women say they want men with emotions and who aren't only after sex. But if a guy doesn't try to screw her within a month she'll either think he's a V, lacks exp, or isn't into her. It couldn't possibly be because when you have sex too soon the blinders come up and red flags tend to be ignored and the guy wants to wait a little. I'd GLADLY wait 2-3 months for sex but that's not gonna work with most women IMO. She'll be telling her GF's you're a scared punk or something. You would not scare me off. It annoys me when a guy tries to go all the way with me in the first 5 dates...I like some action but not that much... 1
Woggle Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 It's not that men are emotionless and unfeeling creatures but many of us have learned the hard way that it is not always a good thing to wear your emotions on our sleeves. Gain our trust and you will see another side of us. 1
Titania22 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Ok, I get the protecting themselves from showing deeper emotions and letting themselves be vulnerable too early thing with men. But a frustration both my daughter and I had recently, were guys that don't show enough of a range of emotion, so it seems like everything they do is "ok", but nothing is really good or bad, so you don't know what they actually enjoy doing. Nothing seems to make them excited. And in my case it even went as far as sex. me: how did you like the sex? him: it was fun (completely deadpan) It come across as lifeless when a guy can't at least show some range of emotion, and it is a huge turnoff, because it is a huge frustration. So I wonder if this accusing men of having no emotions, it not actually thinking men don't have them, but rather expressing frustration at men for not expressing them. It kind of sux to spend time with someone who only shows a monotone neutral emotion unless they actually get angry and they show that. I am very expressive, and I don't expect other people to be as expressive as me, but I can't cope with a person who won't give anything away. (But as Kaylan said maybe it's a people thing not a male/female thing)
ErosOcean Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 The saying that women are more emotional than men, is purely made up. It's a lie, more than ever in our present time. Perhaps, in the past it may have been true because women were oppressed but now it should be more evident, if it's not obvious already, that it is not true at all. Some will argue that women are emotional when it comes to buying. But think about the buying decisions of men, you will see that they too are ruled by their emotions when they buy the gas guzzling muscle car that is not economically or financially smart. Or they buy name brand clothing when a more cost effective article is just the same. When it comes to relationship, don't some men act very much like women in being overly romantic with candles and love poems. And when they break up, don't these same men get emotional and become heart broken. So you are right Kaylan. When you stop looking at just the particulars of one gender (or one incident) and generalize them as a whole. You will realize that emotionally, we are not so different. Anatomically we are two separate beings, but on the level of human behavior, there is very little that differentiates our genders.
crude Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Men and women are pretty much the same, we're just forced to play different roles.
TouchedByViolet Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I think men and women are fundamentally very similar just express it in different ways. Some women are more emotional when it comes to decision making, like buying something. However, when it comes to relationships men are just as emotional.
El Brujo Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Point being...I wish these outdated gender stereotypes would die. So do I. Problem is, there are still way too many people who think it's their job to keep the stereotypes alive.
Author kaylan Posted February 1, 2013 Author Posted February 1, 2013 Mabey I didn't i wasn't clear in my post. Men and women have different things they are attracted too, right? So why are goodlooking shy guys not the ones that get tons of ONS? They still look for an emotional connection. WHy are their no windows, streets full with men prostitutes? Um...my goodlooking friends got women in college and in our 20s now with or without being shy. In the shy guys case, women would approach my one friend a lot. They were NOT looking for emotional connection at all. I ask you the same thing someone else asked. What planet are you living on? There are no male prostitutes because women can get sex when they want it, not because they choose sex partners that much different than men.
Author kaylan Posted February 1, 2013 Author Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) Most women tie emotions to sex which is why I am not a fan of men. Men dont become attached to a woman through sex, even ones they really care for. It doesnt mean much, its "just sex" to them. There are some women that act like men though just not very many...Gay men do what hetero men would do if they had the options. Guys act like they care to get sex. Its feigning though some later do start to care but its a gamble us women have to take. I have met very few men who dont do this. Its gotten to the point where even though I love sex, I now associate it with emotional pain (often delayed though...) so I havent been desiring it much lately This is so not true...and this is the point of my thread. The assertion that most women, or more women are emotionally tied to sex than men is just old school stereotypes that need to go away. I know too many guys who want emotional connection in sex, and too many women who want to just have no strings fun for what you say to hold too much merit. Ive seen this for years, and so have many friends of mine. Not very many women who treat sex as "just sex"? Thats laughable. Theres many many women like that nowadays. However, some of them are not honest about it, especially with people who would judge them badly for it (people like you tbh). Again, whats happened to you in your dating life is a product of your poor choices. So is mine. I know there are good women out there, I just have had crappy choice making so far. At least I can own that reality and own my mistakes. You refuse to and simply blame men.Yeah women arent robots, men are. Men seriously think of women as holes its so ridiculous. It scares me how men say stuff on this forum to convince me this attitude is ok...I hope I never have daughters I read 50 shades and that guy was not fun nor safe feeling provoking either... Women arent robots? Gtfo with that. Just as many are as men. Ive met plenty of women who see hot guys as simply a sexy body with a dick attached. Some of the girls Ive had flings with didnt give one CRAP about me as a person or about any sort of emotional connection at all. They simply saw something they liked and wanted to have some fun. PS - 50 shades of grey is garbage. Edited February 1, 2013 by kaylan
KungFuJoe Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I have to agree with kaylan. I know a LOT of women who are able to separate sex from love. I think it is a "stereotype". Do I think men, in general, are more apt to separate the two? yes...but the gap is is much much smaller than people think it is.
Author kaylan Posted February 1, 2013 Author Posted February 1, 2013 My standards go way up in looks for casual sex. If that's all I am doing, he better look like a model Ive become the same way over time. I used to lower my standards just a bit for hookups (hell it seems most people do), but why should I?! lolol
SJC2008 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Look at all the men and women who have sex or date casually when they're not over their exes, ie; rebounds. What's the point of having sex when you're not over an ex? Ummm to have sex!
Mrlonelyone Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Haven't read the whole thread but clearly I agree with the OP. 90 to 95 percent of gender stereotypes are nothing but made up cultural norms which have nothing to do with any biological basis. 99% of people are born clearly male or female in every biological sense. For those males and females the only things that are mandated by heaven are that the female gives birth and the male protects the female while rearing children. Our bodies show us this. The remaining 1% are folks like me who can, to some extent do a little of both roles. Everything else is just culture. Proof: Today every one of these men would be called a crossdresser. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Godfrey_of_Bouillon_from_Histoire_d'Outremer.jpg 1
AD1980 Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 Um...my goodlooking friends got women in college and in our 20s now with or without being shy. In the shy guys case, women would approach my one friend a lot. They were NOT looking for emotional connection at all. I ask you the same thing someone else asked. What planet are you living on? There are no male prostitutes because women can get sex when they want it, not because they choose sex partners that much different than men. Yeah my good looking friend has had women in bars and lounges come up to him out of nowhere and try to kiss him.. Now that hes divorced and single and seeing how many women want a ons with him i now see how wrong i was thinking women were wired completely different then men when it comes to unaatatched sex.. I also learned beign aorudn him that women are much creepier then men when it comes to how they act around very good looking members of the opposite sex but there not called out on it because men dont mind for the most part:laugh:
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