Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 NYC culture is shallow but the shallowness is spread around quite evenly. Modern day NY is not a good environment for relationships. At least Manhattan isn't. I find people in NYC are actually more open minded about things then people who may live in smaller communities. And I actually think that even though people can be more abrupt, they are actually good-hearted. Whenever I use to visit my brother in Texas, people had nice manners and all but sometimes it felt insincere. At least in NYC, people don't pretend to have manners but if you really need help, they got your back. Although, I do think dating is tough in any city and even in rural areas. It's not like NYC lives in a vaccum the rest of remain untouched by. Especially since we all have access to the internet. It really opens the world for everyone.
Woggle Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I find people in NYC are actually more open minded about things then people who may live in smaller communities. And I actually think that even though people can be more abrupt, they are actually good-hearted. Whenever I use to visit my brother in Texas, people had nice manners and all but sometimes it felt insincere. At least in NYC, people don't pretend to have manners but if you really need help, they got your back. Although, I do think dating is tough in any city and even in rural areas. It's not like NYC lives in a vaccum the rest of remain untouched by. Especially since we all have access to the internet. It really opens the world for everyone. NYC used to be like that and many areas are. It's just upper Manhattan that gives people the snobby and shallow image. NJ is much nicer than people think. My state made me proud with the way people pulled together after Sandy. Anyway back to the original topic.
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 PERSONALITY = SUCCESS WITH WOMEN. Looks hardly matter in the long run, you simply have to make the best with what you got. I wouldn't go that far. You'll still be the shapeless piece of meat who won a woman over, but yes it can work. After all, I've done it. But she'll still tell her girlfriends and perhaps post on online forums that "When I first saw my current boyfriend, to be honest I felt like throwing up in my mouth a little. But now, OH GOD, he's the sexiest man in the world!" 1
SJC2008 Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I'd say both men and women value looks equally. If a man is with a significantly more attractive women he probably "makes up for it" with his wallet. This doesn't necessarily make her a gold digger. She could be a good woman who wanted to be a stay at home mom and is faithful. If the women here really beleive they aren't into looks as much as men then come to houston texas. If you see a couple where one is skinny and the other is chunky, more often than not, the woman is the chunky one. I've said this before, yall know this. And when I say more often than not I'm guestimating somewhere around a 70% chance that the guy is the skinny one.
alphamale Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 PERSONALITY = SUCCESS WITH WOMEN. Looks hardly matter in the long run, you simply have to make the best with what you got. Looks has got the most to do with getting chicks easily
charlietheginger Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Alot of women pass on the tall handsome studs. Many women know tall handsome men have alot of Chances to cheat . Stud man can find another girl and Is less likely to be a pushover Many women pick the average guy becuase she will Be worshiped by the guy pushhim over and even walk On him but average joe will put up with it 1
KungFuJoe Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Alot of women pass on the tall handsome studs. Many women know tall handsome men have alot of Chances to cheat . Stud man can find another girl and Is less likely to be a pushover Many women pick the average guy becuase she will Be worshiped by the guy pushhim over and even walk On him but average joe will put up with it Sadly, some women are like this. I avoid them like the plague.
nofool4u Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Truth.....everyone looks at looks when making dating decisions but with men, personality doesnt overcome looks the way it can with women. Oh it does with me. Sure, looks attract, but if a woman if full of herself, its a huge turnoff. The last woman I dated was actually what I'd consider about 20 pounds overweight, had nice facial features, but not a raving beauty. I loved her personality. Thats what attracted me to her the most.
nofool4u Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Lol, I spend over 50% of my time here saying I wish I could find a decent man I think alot of the decent men are now cautious of who they date. Like me, especially after getting divorced, I'm very cautious and selective, and looks don't have as much to do with it as the kind of person a woman is. If I know a woman that has been historically attracted to the "bad boys", then I won't give her much consideration.
pbjbear Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Manhattan is probably the second largest cesspit of vanity' date=' promiscuity, and recklessness right after L.A. Nice city, but all the ****ing yuppies and hipsters have gentrified it to ****. If you want a relationship, you better move.[/quote'] I agree, I have met a few who arent like this but most are. I feel like a fish out of water here.
KungFuJoe Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 C'mon, you guys don't watch Sex And The City?
pbjbear Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I'd say both men and women value looks equally. If a man is with a significantly more attractive women he probably "makes up for it" with his wallet. This doesn't necessarily make her a gold digger. She could be a good woman who wanted to be a stay at home mom and is faithful. If the women here really beleive they aren't into looks as much as men then come to houston texas. If you see a couple where one is skinny and the other is chunky, more often than not, the woman is the chunky one. I've said this before, yall know this. And when I say more often than not I'm guestimating somewhere around a 70% chance that the guy is the skinny one. Where do you live? There are tons of beautiful women in NYC
kaylan Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) I think alot of the decent men are now cautious of who they date. Like me, especially after getting divorced, I'm very cautious and selective, and looks don't have as much to do with it as the kind of person a woman is. If I know a woman that has been historically attracted to the "bad boys", then I won't give her much consideration. This too. When a good guy gets burned, he learned to be cautious and selective about women. Ive made bad choices in the past, and have gotten much better with them. If I tell you about this one girl I dated the summer before last, youd shake your head in amazement that I put up with such crap behavior. I said this before...and it bears repeating. Guys take much notice of the type of men a girl used to date. If shes dated a lot of idiots, or if she seems to have a highly negative attitude towards men, a decent guy is going to be weary of her. His antennae will go up and he will be wondering what kind of drama shes capable of bringing into his life. Or whether or not she will screw him over emotionally. In other words, who you date says a lot about you. Lets stop the bull***** women and men are equally as shallow.people are as shallow as their options.. You end up with an average man because you are average yourself im tired of some women acting like they could have had a 10 but went out with the 5 because women are less shallow and look more inside the perosn then men, its nonsense This. Having had the pleasure of spending much of my life with a number of good female friends...women are very much just as a shallow as guys when it comes to looks. And its rarer for them to have to dip below their standards because guys are the pursuers. I dunno how anyone can say they never see good-looking guys with chicks under their supposed attractiveness level. Ive seen it A LOT. Of course a woman will notice the hot-girl/average guy couple more so than the opposite if itll confirm her world view. Also, with the exception of my best friend, my inner circle of guy friends told me I could do better when I was with my ex. Are me and my best friends anomalies since we cared more about personality? My other friends didnt find her cute...but I definitely did. And sure I thought my ex was hot, and she did have a great body...but that didnt factor into why I fell for her. It was how our personalities clicked. And Ive known a bunch of other guys whove done the same thing. People act like its such a common thing for hot girls to date average guys, and that hot guys never date average girls. Truly be objective...step outside of yourself and your biased opinion....and truly see the world and observe. There are PLENTY of hot dudes dating girls who are supposedly under his league. When I stop seeing groups of women vying for the attention of the hottest guys in the bar and club, and when I stop seeing laundry lists of physical attributes wanted on a girls profile, then and only then will I believe women are less shallow than man. As of now, they are just as shallow, and sometimes even more so, because I dont see guys acting like that in social settings as much, nor do I ever see requirement lists in profile for a girls physical attributes and dress style. Girls own that last one...and then play it off by saying "Im not picky, or a bitch, I just know what Im worth and what I want." More women treat dating a lot more like a shopping catalog than men do. For everything many women say here about a guys expectations regarding looks...tbh all a guy wants is a cute, in decent shape girl whos personality he clicks with. And when you consider how guys find a varied amount of women cute and attractive...it aint that hard to satisfy a good deal of us. For as much as I have my own expectations of a girls fitness level, and sometimes even her style....it goes out the window if she treats me well and we click. Hence how I fell for December girl, even though she wasnt the gym rat I am (though I still found her much attractive), and even though I could have gone after "better looking women". The girl was cool, treated me great, and was fun to be around. /transmission Edited February 9, 2013 by kaylan 1
Woggle Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 This too. When a good guy gets burned, he learned to be cautious and selective about women. Ive made bad choices in the past, and have gotten much better with them. If I tell you about this one girl I dated the summer before last, youd shake your head in amazement that I put up with such crap behavior. I said this before...and it bears repeating. Guys take much notice of the type of men a girl used to date. If shes dated a lot of idiots, or if she seems to have a highly negative attitude towards men, a decent guy is going to be weary of her. His antennae will go up and he will be wondering what kind of drama shes capable of bringing into his life. Or whether or not she will screw him over emotionally. In other words, who you date says a lot about you. /transmission This right here. With the exception of horny idiots who think with the wrong a man's number one factor in how to decide who is and isn't relationship material is if she will make his life better or if she will bring more drama into it and the best way to tell that is how she acted in the past. If she brought drama into other's men's lives then chances are I am no different.
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