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Why you cant compare the struggles in the dating world between genders


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Yes they would. Because those men were in the bottom quintile of social status. That's reason enough.

 

Are you implying that's a bad thing? Because I don't understand why. I won't have sex with overweight women either so if women deem my social status as too low to have sex with me, isn't that kind of the same thing?

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Men struggle to get dates or get laid

Women struggle to find a good quality guy to have a relationship with

 

From reading the threads on this site and make some generalizations, that is the different I see with the genders whining

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Are you implying that's a bad thing? Because I don't understand why. I won't have sex with overweight women either so if women deem my social status as too low to have sex with me, isn't that kind of the same thing?

 

No I'm not implying that at all. I'm implying that there will be a segment of the male population who are "low status" no matter they do and no matter how people rationalize it. It's not because those men are bitter, or stupid, or have bad personalities, are ugly, etc.; it's because they are low status. Biologically or genetically. Often with traits that don't manifest themselves in ways that people can objectively perceive.

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Men struggle to get dates or get laid

Women struggle to find a good quality guy to have a relationship with

 

From reading the threads on this site and make some generalizations, that is the different I see with the genders whining

Am I correct in assuming that you infer, men do not struggle to find a good quality girl to have a relationship with? That is an issue that only women deal with?

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Am I correct in assuming that you infer, men do not struggle to find a good quality girl to have a relationship with? That is an issue that only women deal with?

 

Some, but most care about sex before anything else

 

Look at lakerman...his last post said a girl needs to throw herself at him sexually before he even THINKS about dating her. I use him as an example because hes being honest while the other men here lie out of their asses, yet post threads of them behaving in ways where they put sex first

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Some, but most care about sex before anything else

 

Look at lakerman...his last post said a girl needs to throw herself at him sexually before he even THINKS about dating her. I use him as an example because hes being honest while the other men here lie out of their asses, yet post threads of them behaving in ways where they put sex first

 

Why do you focus on the negatives and not the positives?

 

Have you NEVER come across a man who was a REAL man?

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Some, but most care about sex before anything else

 

Look at lakerman...his last post said a girl needs to throw herself at him sexually before he even THINKS about dating her. I use him as an example because hes being honest while the other men here lie out of their asses, yet post threads of them behaving in ways where they put sex first

 

I think you need to take your NYC blinders off.

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Some, but most care about sex before anything else

 

Look at lakerman...his last post said a girl needs to throw herself at him sexually before he even THINKS about dating her. I use him as an example because hes being honest while the other men here lie out of their asses, yet post threads of them behaving in ways where they put sex first

Be honest, you really don't know at all.

 

You're just trying to paint all men as creeps that only want sex.

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Be honest, you really don't know at all.

 

You're just trying to paint all men as creeps that only want sex.

 

Nope. Most non-creepy men want sex before everything else too.

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Nope. Most non-creepy men want sex before everything else too.

 

I hope you understand someday that not all men are like that.

 

Perhaps it's bad luck...perhaps it's the men in your area...perhaps you DO have blinders on as other people have mentioned.

 

But the FACT...the INDISPUTABLE FACT is...there are good men out there. A LOT of them.

 

I'm one of them. I have friends who qualify as the same. Good men, married, with families.

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As this forum is the only source of information I get about the struggles of women, I have no choice but to treat it as a sample.

 

You can still treat it as a sample that has bias.

 

You can.

 

Really.

 

I dare you. :)

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But the FACT...the INDISPUTABLE FACT is...there are good men out there. A LOT of them.

 

I agree, but I disagree with the implication that being a non-creepy man who wants sex before everything else disqualifies that man from being a "good man".

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Why do you focus on the negatives and not the positives?

 

Have you NEVER come across a man who was a REAL man?

 

Because a lot of us are programmed that way. By whining and putting so much focus on the negatives, we unfortunately attract other bad things. Negative irrational beliefs are why so many people are unhappy.

 

Think about it, if you were a woman and one of your core beliefs was that 90% of the men out there was evil, wouldn't you be unhappy? The problem is that this belief cannot be cancelled out on a rational basis. You need time to do that.

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I agree, but I disagree with the implication that being a non-creepy man who wants sex before everything else disqualifies that man from being a "good man".

 

I wouldnt say that person is a bad man..but Id say he is shallow and selfish and perhaps needs to evolve a bit more.

 

I very rarely meet men who want sex before anything else who doesnt f*** girls over daily. Most men I know like this have to f*** girls over in order to get sex...unless hes George Clooney.

 

I have several male friends who are pronounced manwhores who claim theyre always honest and upfront...yeah I never believe that line because Ive observed over and over how thats not true (they do lie to women...)

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What some of you folks don't seem to understand is that these azzhole guys don't usually START OUT being azzholes. Most of them act like the best guy on the planet and get a girl hooked, THEN their azzhole behavior comes out. By then, she's usually emotionally invested in him and will accept the crappy treatment he doles out to her in the hopes that he'll turn BACK into the guy he used to be and they'll live happily ever after.

 

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This sums up my dating experiences.

I tell people on here I run away from known players/womanizers. I do. And that I dont go for guys who dont seem nice. Nobody believes me and assumes my attitude is the problem (nobody in my real life knows I think most men are pigs...well most men are...I dont say this stuff to anyone in real life and every guy I dated I gave the benefit of the doubt hoping hed be the one to prove me wrong...)

Tons of guys pretend to be "good" I havent met one yet that got through a few months of being "good" and didnt morph into a selfish, mean, disrespectful ass

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What some of you folks don't seem to understand is that these azzhole guys don't usually START OUT being azzholes. Most of them act like the best guy on the planet and get a girl hooked, THEN their azzhole behavior comes out. By then, she's usually emotionally invested in him and will accept the crappy treatment he doles out to her in the hopes that he'll turn BACK into the guy he used to be and they'll live happily ever after.

 

I would say that said woman has some kind of mental problem then if she doesn quickly become un-emotionally invested.

 

 

Trust me, if you took one of those "good guys" and gave him plastic surgery so he looked like Brad Pitt and he worked out at the gym for a few months until he was in great shape, it wouldn't take much time at all before he turned into an azzhole with women, too.

 

where does a guy like me fit in then?

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What some of you folks don't seem to understand is that these azzhole guys don't usually START OUT being azzholes. Most of them act like the best guy on the planet and get a girl hooked, THEN their azzhole behavior comes out. By then, she's usually emotionally invested in him and will accept the crappy treatment he doles out to her in the hopes that he'll turn BACK into the guy he used to be and they'll live happily ever after.

 

This is true. But, many women who date those kinds of guys (the Dutch bags) often repeatedly date those kinds of guys. At some point you have to wonder whether it's just something they truly prefer (subconsciously) and their complaints about those "azzholes" are just them trying to make themselves look better to everyone else.

 

Revealed preference is a very useful thing to apply here.

 

And being fair, most of the "good guys" who will treat a woman like a 'queen' are usually the ones that HAVE to be good guys because they don't have the looks to attract women and they don't have many other options. So of course they're more humble and will treat a woman well. Geez, it's not rocket science.

 

Yes. Agreed. But, the fact is women know those guys have no options and thus aren't attracted to those guys as much or just use those guys for something (class notes, money, to take care of her kids, marriage, etc.). So it's pretty even steven right there.

 

Trust me, if you took one of those "good guys" and gave him plastic surgery so he looked like Brad Pitt and he worked out at the gym for a few months until he was in great shape, it wouldn't take much time at all before he turned into an azzhole with women, too.

 

Not necessarily. People might change on the outside, but deep down many people harbor the same insecurities they had before a transformation like that. Sometimes you are who you are.

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