Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 But i actually like women especially my friends wives and girlfriends who think im a great guy..m how many of them have tried to introduce you to a single friend?
Author PJKino Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 how many of them have tried to introduce you to a single friend? None because there arent any single women they know and the few who were well they figured my very good looking friend would peak their interest much more Plus they know im pretty shy around women and rarely approach,theyve told me to approach women before while we were out in bars but i refused 1
TouchedByViolet Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 You may not realize it, but you probably emit a certain negative vibe. You might think no one sees it and you only "turn it on" when you're on LS but it's very very hard to hide ones true feelings. Negative vibe has nothing to do with it. I know plenty of negative people in relationships. The key is to be interesting. Negative or positive has potential to generate attraction. Just don't be neutral 2
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 None because there arent any single women they know and the few who were well they figured my very good looking friend would peak their interest much more Plus they know im pretty shy around women and rarely approach,theyve told me to approach women before while we were out in bars but i refused Yeah this is pretty accurate. Women are pretty good at knowing which guys are good catches and which aren't. So they don't go around introducing their single friends to just any old guy. I've had friends of mine (male and female) make comments like "I should introduce you to so and so" and then they never do. Actions speak louder than words. If they're not introducing you to their friends, there's a reason for it.
Author PJKino Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 Yeah this is pretty accurate. Women are pretty good at knowing which guys are good catches and which aren't. So they don't go around introducing their single friends to just any old guy. I've had friends of mine (male and female) make comments like "I should introduce you to so and so" and then they never do. Actions speak louder than words. If they're not introducing you to their friends, there's a reason for it. Yep i know im not a catch im not good looking and im shy around women not exactly a person you want to set up But it has nothing to do with benig "bitter" my good lookign friend hates women and has little respect for them at all but gets them in bed and in relationships so spare me the psycho analyzing
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Yep i know im not a catch im not good looking and im shy around women not exactly a person you want to set up But it has nothing to do with benig "bitter" my good lookign friend hates women and has little respect for them at all but gets them in bed and in relationships so spare me the psycho analyzing Hey man, I'm on your side brother.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I've had friends of mine (male and female) make comments like "I should introduce you to so and so" and then they never do. Actions speak louder than words. If they're not introducing you to their friends, there's a reason for it. You need to push when someone says something like this. People say that to me, and I push if they sound interesting to make sure it happens.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Yep i know im not a catch im not good looking and im shy around women not exactly a person you want to set up But it has nothing to do with benig "bitter" my good lookign friend hates women and has little respect for them at all but gets them in bed and in relationships so spare me the psycho analyzing well your d-bag friend is an exception, not the rule.
Author PJKino Posted January 27, 2013 Author Posted January 27, 2013 Hey man, I'm on your side brother. I wasnt talking about you i should have clarifiied that more
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 You need to push when someone says something like this. People say that to me, and I push if they sound interesting to make sure it happens. Even though I have very little self respect, I'd really prefer not to have to beg like a dog just to get a (potential) date. If self confidence is attractive, doesn't that kind of go against that conventional wisdom?
Lonely Ronin Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Even though I have very little self respect, I'd really prefer not to have to beg like a dog just to get a (potential) date. If self confidence is attractive, doesn't that kind of go against that conventional wisdom? lol I'm not advocating begging. I'm saying you approach it like "hey Joe when are you going to introduce me to Jane, she sounded cool?"
Truthsayer Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Negative vibe has nothing to do with it. I know plenty of negative people in relationships. The key is to be interesting. Negative or positive has potential to generate attraction. Just don't be neutral Agreed. You may hear something like how can anybody else love you when you don't love yourself. I know a couple guys getting a lot of love from women and believe me they don't love themselves. 2
KungFuJoe Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Agreed. You may hear something like how can anybody else love you when you don't love yourself. I know a couple guys getting a lot of love from women and believe me they don't love themselves. Exceptions to the rule. And they probably aren't posting on LS, either.
Truthsayer Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Exceptions to the rule. And they probably aren't posting on LS, either. Lol. My point is there is no rule book really for men talking to women. No secret pick up artist lines that will magically make women like you. Whatever works, works.
Necris Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 I'm gonna be blunt....I think if you haven't been on a date and you're over the age of 25 (hell...might even say 20) AND you aren't asexual, the problem is YOU. Assuming you don't live in a village with only 20 other people. The problem is YOU. Not men. Not women. Not gender differences. YOU. I've seen way too many people of all shapes, sizes and levels of attraction, not just date...but even end up in a LTR or marriage. Assuming you people aren't burn victims or look like Rocky from The Mask, those of you complaining about not being able to even find a date probably have some very weird personality quirk or issue that needs addressing. Maybe some people just aren't meant to date or we somehow make terrible choices in our approaches, and just happen to always approach the wrong person. Or something is happening. Anyway my solution to all of this is to stop focusing so hard on dating and do something else, it is good to realize you have other things you can be doing besides chasing and failing with women. Unfortunately it is hard not to think about women.
StanMusial Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 lol I'm not advocating begging. I'm saying you approach it like "hey Joe when are you going to introduce me to Jane, she sounded cool?" This is good advice. Relying on cold approach only works if you're good looking and even then the failure rate is pretty high. I was introduced to my current love interest by my hairdresser. I didn't beg LOL. She asked me something about "my girlfriend" and I said "I don't have a girlfriend". The conversation led to this little cutie who works in that same building and the lady introduced us. I had seen that girl before so I knew I would like her. 1
KraftDinner Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 You know what every guy here is going to say - there are probably a 100 men in your life who would treat you like a queen yet you decided to go with the one who is a complete azzhole Do you think that's fair to say? Is what fair to say? That every guy here will say that? Or that my guy is an azz? 100 men all for me, my goodness. Where do you think I'm living, a smurf village? Anyway, my guy treats me amazingly well and I do the same for him. I make sure he feels like a king every day and he treats me like a queen! So, no.
Necris Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 lol I'm not advocating begging. I'm saying you approach it like "hey Joe when are you going to introduce me to Jane, she sounded cool?" Don't know about you but to meet someone in that manner I would have to beg for it, I have friends and have had friends and they never attempt in the slightest fashion to help me meet women or introduce me to women, its just expected that you go out and find them yourself not through other people.
KraftDinner Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Woo, this thread's really long, guess my response above is kind of passe now!
SJC2008 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 LS doesn't represent the real world so let's get real for a moment: 1)30 year old virgins: More men, more women or equal? 2)30 and never had a BF/GF: More men, more women or eaual? 3)A LITTLE awkward but "normal" for the most part: More single women like this, more single men like this or equl amounts? ***This post will probably get little to no attention because it involves facts and not smoke filled coffee house bull isht*** 1
somedude81 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 LS doesn't represent the real world so let's get real for a moment: 1)30 year old virgins: More men, more women or equal? 2)30 and never had a BF/GF: More men, more women or eaual? 3)A LITTLE awkward but "normal" for the most part: More single women like this, more single men like this or equl amounts? ***This post will probably get little to no attention because it involves facts and not smoke filled coffee house bull isht*** What comes to mind when thinking of a 30 virgin woman that has never had a boyfriend. One or more of the following: Super religious. Parents keep her very sheltered. Obese. Severe personality/self-esteem issues: Is against dating and sex. (I was pretty close to a girl that met this one. She confided in me that she wishes she had been born a man, though she was still heterosexual) 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 For every woman having sex, there is a man having sex For every woman in a relationship, there is a man in a relationship I suppose you can say that there are probably more men who have absolutely no dating luck at all (because of the structure of dating world where men are expected to do absolutely everything) - but the overall number and averages HAVE to come out to exactly the same. It's scientifically impossible for women to have more options than men do The thing is there are some men who are dating or sleeping with multiple women who are only sleeping with them. In other words, some men have two or more women exclusively to themselves. That skews the numbers a bit. 2
SJC2008 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 For every woman having sex, there is a man having sex For every woman in a relationship, there is a man in a relationship I suppose you can say that there are probably more men who have absolutely no dating luck at all (because of the structure of dating world where men are expected to do absolutely everything) - but the overall number and averages HAVE to come out to exactly the same. It's scientifically impossible for women to have more options than men do I that was the case there would be no single people. Your basing your post on a "desert island" 20 people, all single, half men half women.
KungFuJoe Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 The thing is there are some men who are dating or sleeping with multiple women who are only sleeping with them. In other words, some men have two or more women exclusively to themselves. That skews the numbers a bit. Lol you think there aren't women who have their stables, too? 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Lol you think there aren't women who have their stables, too? Oh I think there are, but not as many as there are men with that kind of arrangement. I guess you can say that with men - there is a slightly more skewed distribution in that you have a certain percentile of men who are very successful and a certain percentage of men who have no success at all but women report the same things - often times the beautiful women can be seeing 3 or 4 different men at a time as well. Everything evens out in the end. All these things that you guys feel only exists in your head, not in the real world Let's do some back of the envelope calculations here. There's 104 men for every 100 women (here in the US). If 10% of the male population is having sex with or dating 2 women who are exclusive with that man, the ratio is now 94 men to 80 women. Let's say for the sake of argument that 5% of the female population does this same thing (average of 2 each). Now we're down to 84 men to 75 women. That's not a "drastic" skew, but enough to say there's a sizable portion of men "left out" so to speak. IMO, this is a totally plausible model. Men are more likely to cheat or pursue multiple relationships at the same time compared to women. It's something more socially acceptable for a man to do. That number, roughly 9% is also consistent with the number of male virgins over 25. 1
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