PJKino Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Reading the why more men whine then women thread made me think of this..and im not saying women dont struggle at all that would be silly and ignorant but maybe people will realize its two different plights and why struggling men would gladly take the average struggling womens frustration in the dating world over their own.. Women complain thye havent found their perfect soulmate yet the men on here complain they cant get a first date.. I know its frustratnig for women who want to get married if they havent found the one yet but be honest which genders plight would you rather have? The women who was in a few relationships and im sure had some very good moments and was loved at one point and had some fun while in it OR the guy who cant even get a first date and has never had effection from a women or a ran into a women who seemd semi interested in even entertaining the idea of going on a first date with him? One side just hasnt found their ideal partner yet the other one is ignored and rejected at every step and never felt loved or the warm embrace of the opposite sex.. It's not the same.. Edited January 27, 2013 by PJKino 2
SmileFace Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I am pretty sure we can compare what ever we want. Everything is on a person to person basis 2
somedude81 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Also, lets not forget that men want the same thing that women do. Just because I'm struggling to get a first date, doesn't mean I don't want to find love and get married someday. The big difference is that the average woman is a lot closer to getting that ultimate goal than I am.
Mrlonelyone Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Trust me gents, plenty of women can't get a first date either. Plenty of women would gladly accept a first date request but they never ever get it. What makes the difference however is the gender role based expectation that the male will do all the initial approaching. 2
Bristolius Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Finally, a thread that will get this all straightened out. 5
Mrlonelyone Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Finally, a thread that will get this all straightened out. It would be nice if it really would. Although, they have a point that it's not really productive to call them whiners etc on top of all the negativity the already feel towards dating and mating.
ChessPieceFace Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Trust me gents, plenty of women can't get a first date either. What, the ones that are 250+ lbs? That's about it. 1
Mrlonelyone Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 What, the ones that are 250+ lbs? That's about it. Not even. There are plenty of young and old women who just can't get a date. They may get propositioned for sex by random creeps on the street, but they don't get a date.
SmileFace Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 What, the ones that are 250+ lbs? That's about it. Does that make them less of a women? If a guy has a penis less than 5 inches -- he doesn't count either. 4
aed Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I think you can't. Different totaly different games! It's never the same. I never heard an player say: I bang 4 different womens a month but I can't find a good girl. For most guys who can get women easy, the considering for serious relationship starts after they went fysical. Not always, but that is with women that don't participate in the same kind of behaviour, they are!
ChessPieceFace Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Does that make them less of a women? If a guy has a penis less than 5 inches -- he doesn't count either. I didn't program the genome. I said hugely obese women are the only ones I could think of that MAYBE couldn't get ANY dates. Also, ANYONE can lose weight even though it's not easy. Men can't really make their penises longer. So your comparison is just every flavor of wrong. 1
KraftDinner Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Unless you've been both a man and a woman I don't see how you could possibly claim to have a real clue what the other gender goes through. The arrogance of some people in their assertions is astounding. Especially from those who admittedly have never been in a relationship. How could you POSSIBLY claim to have any idea what the other gender goes through? But go ahead, if it makes you feel better. Go ahead and demonize the other gender. I'm sure that helps in your struggle for true love. Signed, Someone who got royally dragged through hell in her last relationship but still doesn't think men are the enemy 5
somedude81 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Does that make them less of a women? If a guy has a penis less than 5 inches -- he doesn't count either. A woman's weight is the number one factor that determines her attractiveness. Nothing else has as big of an impact. It's also obvious on first glance if a woman is obese or not. Thankfully, weight can be lost with diet and exercise. Unless he told you before, would you have any idea how big a mans erection is before you saw it?
somedude81 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Unless you've been both a man and a woman I don't see how you could possibly claim to have a real clue what the other gender goes through. The arrogance of some people in their assertions is astounding. Especially from those who admittedly have never been in a relationship. How could you POSSIBLY claim to have any idea what the other gender goes through? But go ahead, if it makes you feel better. Go ahead and demonize the other gender. I'm sure that helps in your struggle for true love. Signed, Someone who got royally dragged through hell in her last relationship but still doesn't think men are the enemy Both men and women post about their struggles on this forum. Reading enough threads, one can begin to get an understanding about what each side deals with.
Woggle Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 There tend to be things that one gender tends to struggle with more often than the other but in the end you have to judge people on a case to case basis. There are plenty of women who can't dates and there are plenty of men who can easily get a GF but still have tons of relationship drama. That was me until I met my wife so getting the foot in the door means very little.
somedude81 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I'm really not buying that there are plenty of women who can't get dates. From reading this forum, it seems the main cause of women not being asked out, is that there are no age appropriate single men where she lives.
KungFuJoe Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I'm gonna be blunt....I think if you haven't been on a date and you're over the age of 25 (hell...might even say 20) AND you aren't asexual, the problem is YOU. Assuming you don't live in a village with only 20 other people. The problem is YOU. Not men. Not women. Not gender differences. YOU. I've seen way too many people of all shapes, sizes and levels of attraction, not just date...but even end up in a LTR or marriage. Assuming you people aren't burn victims or look like Rocky from The Mask, those of you complaining about not being able to even find a date probably have some very weird personality quirk or issue that needs addressing. 4
somedude81 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 We gotta break down this discussion into dating vs sex There's absolutely no doubt in the world that women have it much much much easier when it comes to sex because men have a far higher sex drive so there are almost no women out there who can't get sex whenever they like The question becomes about finding somebody who wants to date them. There are plenty of women who can't find anybody halfway decent who wants to date them - just as many men who can't find anybody at all I wasn't talk about sex. As I previously stated, I absolutely do not believe that there are plenty of women who can't find somebody halfway decent who wants to date them. The only possible explanations are, that they are not halfway decent themselves, or that they live in an area where there are no age appropriate single men.
Mrlonelyone Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 We gotta break down this discussion into dating vs sex There's absolutely no doubt in the world that women have it much much much easier when it comes to sex because men have a far higher sex drive so there are almost no women out there who can't get sex whenever they like The question becomes about finding somebody who wants to date them. There are plenty of women who can't find anybody halfway decent who wants to date them - just as many men who can't find anybody at all Yes this. I am neither the average man nor the average woman...however like the average woman I at times get approached for sex more than for relationships. Plenty of people male and female would have sex with people they would never be in a relationship with. Basically anyone who isn't a straight male can go out to the right venue and get laid by someone any given nite. (Simply getting laid isn't that hard for heterosexual males either if they let go of standards and inhibitions.) The real issue is that many of the guys here want sex in the context of a relationship. They don't just want to 4uck they want to be made love to. They think some vajayna will fix all that's wrong with the world. When in reality, while it can sooth you like a really good backrub + tickling + happy ending... when it's over the world is just where it always was.
SmileFace Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I'm gonna be blunt....I think if you haven't been on a date and you're over the age of 25 (hell...might even say 20) AND you aren't asexual, the problem is YOU. Assuming you don't live in a village with only 20 other people. The problem is YOU. Not men. Not women. Not gender differences. YOU. I've seen way too many people of all shapes, sizes and levels of attraction, not just date...but even end up in a LTR or marriage. Assuming you people aren't burn victims or look like Rocky from The Mask, those of you complaining about not being able to even find a date probably have some very weird personality quirk or issue that needs addressing. Exactly. Nope lets keep blaming women. Or bitching how much easier women have it. Since that makes a big fking difference. Because a grown man can't fess up that the problem with their success in dating is them. However I am not saying any names. 5
Keenly Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Some one way back said its harder for women because they are "expected to be approached and not do the approaching " to which I respond seriously? Its 2013 people.... no more stupid excuses like that. Expecting men to just do all the hard work for you is ridiculous. 1
SmileFace Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Women have it much easier simply because men do all the work in dating and because women are faced with much lower standards - it's a lot easier to exercise and be in shape than approach a bunch of random strangers in hopes of finding a date All women are expected to do is just be not fat and not hideous and they can find somebody Big fking deal. What exactly is your point? I am neither fat or hideous and still single. Or wait I should settled for my ex who didn't think I should waste my time with school. Or I should have stayed with the guy who wouldn't label or relationship but wanted to act as his girlfried while he played the field. Or I should just settle for some average guy I have nothing in common with. Oh - it is so easy.
KungFuJoe Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Women have it much easier simply because men do all the work in dating and because women are faced with much lower expectations - it's a lot easier to exercise and be in shape than approach a bunch of random strangers in hopes of finding a date And here you are complaining about these so called differences instead of being up for the challenge.
KungFuJoe Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 I look at it from this angle. I like being the man. I like knowing what I like and going and getting it instead of having to wait for it to fall in my lap. I wouldn't WANT to be a woman in the dating world.
tomhomme13 Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 This is so silly. Good looking people of either gender get dates. Ugly ones don't. That's life. Accept it and move on. If you are ugly, you will be alone. Find happiness elsewhere, that's what I do. C'est la vie.
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