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I think I've well and truly had enough - where are the REAL men at?!


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Answer this for me: What's the longest you've dated a man before having sex?? There are plenty of men who will wait a reasonable amount of time for sex, I've said this before. I don't want to date a woman who's gonna be giving it up super qucik. Make me work for it, show me you aren't gonna let any swinging dick bed you. At the same time I understand people are people and I'm not perfect so I could easily date a woman who has had a few ONS and mabye sewed some oats after an R. I just don't want to date the girl that blew the whole football team!

 

Like I said earlier, I think we're similar. We have a hard time finding people that compliment are personalities. TBS I know PLENTY of men who are with women that have opposite demeanors. Usually the guy is funny, energetic and the woman is vanilla, serious.

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My goodness, I wasn't expecting so many responses on this post as I was just venting! Anyway, it's great to hear so many views.

 

I'm offended by almost half of your posts however. In my quite clearly lame sense of humour, I quoted Marilyn Monroe. I stated afterwards that this was in fact my sarcasm and sense of humour, yet now I have been stereotyped as being some attention seeking immature whiny bitch - which I am far from. I just thought I'd set the record straight there.

 

As for me not having a wide enough dating pool, oh trust me, my dating pool is like a melting pot! So, the nerdy guys, which honestly, I have dated before are no different to the hottest guys out there. I was quite recently dating a nerd, he had no experience in relationships and I was very understanding towards him, YET he was the biggest jerk I have EVER met. He pushed and pushed for sex, told me that what I do and some of my views are STUPID and yawned when I told him some stories about my job. Now, I'm sure my stories can get pretty boring, but how ignorant and down right rude is it to yawn when someone is talking about something that clearly interests them?!

 

SJC2008 - I've slept with 3 guys in my life. 1 a long term relationship and I made him wait 2 months, the second a one night stand and the 3rd I made him wait around 3 weeks. That's just me, I don't really like sleeping around, I like getting to know someone before I take someone to the bedroom and it's nice sleeping with someone that actually understands you and isn't just with you because he fancies getting his end wet that night.

I'm sure we are pretty similar, I couldn't agree more, I have never been with anyone that has truly and honestly stimulated my mind and I find myself pretending to be something I'm not.. but where the hell are you hiding if this is the case :p

 

I think regardless of the type of guy you go for be it the nerd, the uber cool guy, the really hot model, whatever, they're all going to have their downfalls and yes, I expect that, I'm not asking for Mr Perfect, which so many posters quite clearly think I am. I'm asking for ONE guy, any guy, doesn't matter what category he fits into, to just want to listen to me, and me listen to him, I want someone to have interesting conversations with, someone that thinks my sense of humour is absolutely the best thing since bread itself (cos without the bread you wouldn't have sliced bread) and someone that I can just be so intrigued by, someone that really opens my mind. I don't think that's much to ask, I really don't and I'm sure there's plenty of men and women out there that feel the same as this post has quite clearly proven.

 

The problem isn't that men and women aren't going for this type of guy/girl, or that type of guy/girl, the problem I think, is there aren't enough men or women out there sometimes to show that yes, they're just as weird as you..;)

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I was quite recently dating a nerd, he had no experience in relationships and I was very understanding towards him, YET he was the biggest jerk I have EVER met. He pushed and pushed for sex, told me that what I do and some of my views are STUPID and yawned when I told him some stories about my job.

 

Yeah...he doesn't sound great, but THAT's the biggest jerk you've ever met?

 

An inexperienced guy who really wants to have sex, thinks some of your views are stupid, and yawns at a particular point in time?

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Yeah...he doesn't sound great, but THAT's the biggest jerk you've ever met?

 

An inexperienced guy who really wants to have sex, thinks some of your views are stupid, and yawns at a particular point in time?

 

Men must be perfect in all actions and in both voluntary and involuntary functions. Biology is beside the point - if you yawn, you're gone.

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Yeah...he doesn't sound great, but THAT's the biggest jerk you've ever met?

 

An inexperienced guy who really wants to have sex, thinks some of your views are stupid, and yawns at a particular point in time?

 

Everyone takes stuff I say so literally on here, maybe it's because I'm British huh? Who knows?

YES he was the biggest jerk I've ever met...and NOT just for the reasons I listed. I didn't want to list every little single detail down to save boring the readers.

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Everyone takes stuff I say so literally on here, maybe it's because I'm British huh? Who knows?

YES he was the biggest jerk I've ever met...and NOT just for the reasons I listed. I didn't want to list every little single detail down to save boring the readers.

 

That's why I jumped in when people were saying don't use that Monroe phrase lol. Sometimes people will pick something in a thread that they don't like and that becomes the thread and you'll get tared and featherd for it. Or I guess since you're Brithish you'll get tea and strumpeted for it haha!

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As hard as it is for me to find a guy who wants a relationship.

I really can't imagine they are no good"Real" man out there.

I know if I look at my relationship history - I can see tons of stuff I could have improved to help me find a good guy.

Anywho point being - I can't agree that they aren't real men out there.

Some times we just look in the wrong places and patience can do us some good. :)

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A truly clever woman knows that Marily Monroe never said ANYTHING worth quoting. Ever.

 

No, seriously. EVER.

 

Further, I know you want someone to be so impressed by all your book learning and fascinated by you truly riviting work stories, but most good men want to be a PARTNER to their woman. Not her audience.

 

I meet good men all the time. When I was dating, they were practically falling in my lap on a weekly basis. And I am definitely more of a ambitious driven type. No one in my life has ever described me as an airhead bombshell.

 

So maybe the problem IS you? Maybe you're boring and just a wee bit entitled? If you're unwilling to change (because Marilyn said I shouldn't!), then why should half the population change to suit you?

 

Think about it.

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I think maybe you're too focused on having the world around you change, the men who like you change, rather than changing yourself.

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A truly clever woman knows that Marily Monroe never said ANYTHING worth quoting. Ever.

 

No, seriously. EVER.

 

Further, I know you want someone to be so impressed by all your book learning and fascinated by you truly riviting work stories, but most good men want to be a PARTNER to their woman. Not her audience.

 

I meet good men all the time. When I was dating, they were practically falling in my lap on a weekly basis. And I am definitely more of a ambitious driven type. No one in my life has ever described me as an airhead bombshell.

 

So maybe the problem IS you? Maybe you're boring and just a wee bit entitled? If you're unwilling to change (because Marilyn said I shouldn't!), then why should half the population change to suit you?

 

Think about it.

 

 

'I'm offended by almost half of your posts however. In my quite clearly lame sense of humour, I quoted Marilyn Monroe. I stated afterwards that this was in fact my sarcasm and sense of humour, yet now I have been stereotyped as being some attention seeking immature whiny bitch - which I am far from. I just thought I'd set the record straight there.'

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The bottom line is, there are a lot of great women finding partners.

 

Why them, and not you?

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Blah blah blah, it seems that no-one is reading what I'm saying, and if they are and still missing my point then there really is no hope in the world. I'm out.

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Op,

 

What would make you everyone else needs to change just to accommodate you?

 

That is not very fair, don't you think?

 

Btw, Marilyn Monroe changed her NAME! So don't me that crap about not needing to change!

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'I'm offended by almost half of your posts however. In my quite clearly lame sense of humour, I quoted Marilyn Monroe. I stated afterwards that this was in fact my sarcasm and sense of humour, yet now I have been stereotyped as being some attention seeking immature whiny bitch - which I am far from. I just thought I'd set the record straight there.'

 

Are you lame or are you clever? I forgot which you're claiming to be. And maybe if you lack sense of humor, THAT is what is holding you back? Or perhaps real men aren't interested in your sarcasm?

 

Listen, the common denominator in all your failings with men is YOU. I think what people are trying to get you to understand that the likelihood of their being something wrong with half the population (because Lord knows you're just freaking wonderful) is slim to none. It's probably YOU. So how about we figure out what YOURE doing wrong, fix it, and find you true Love?

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The bottom line is, there are a lot of great women finding partners.

 

Why them, and not you?

 

The bottom line is that there is a principle called pigeonhole principle that totally applies here. She is probably one of those unlucky birds.

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The bottom line is that there is a principle called pigeonhole principle that totally applies here. She is probably one of those unlucky birds.

 

I don't believe the problem is a lack of interesting men.

 

OP, what kinds of people do you interact with in your daily life? Do you interact with people who are interested in books in things?

 

Instead of looking for a date/man, expand your social group. Meet new people, both men and women, who enjoy your interests. Let connections form naturally.

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Everyone takes stuff I say so literally on here, maybe it's because I'm British huh? Who knows?

YES he was the biggest jerk I've ever met...and NOT just for the reasons I listed. I didn't want to list every little single detail down to save boring the readers.

 

you know, it struck me lovesick that this thread was a lot like what you described having to deal with in dating. What you said was pretty clear to me but you felt like you were banging your head against a brick wall, not getting through at all, being misunderstood if even heard by the guys in this thread.

 

and so I guess one answer is they're not here. :) Or maybe REAL MEN is a little, maybe a lot vague. I don't think very many people would have "listens and understands me and discusses it with me intellectually" near the top of qualities thought to be of a REAL MAN. Yes, it's idealistic to say so, and maybe a lot of women would say so, but truthfully it's not part of the image of what most people have of a REAL MAN.

 

The answer seems obvious to me. You should chat online with a guy until you are comfortable knowing how he thinks. Being intellectually stimulating is hard for a man to fake. If he isn't satisfying in chat he won't be in person either. If his attention span makes him seem to have that attention deficit disorder thing that was discovered a few years ago by idiots, that's what he's like. That's what a lot of men are like. If you want a mind that can respond to you, you're going to have to sort through the chaff to find it. Online eliminates the time and cost and effort and distractions and feelings you're having now of attempting it in person.

 

It's a start anyway. It's hard to find out if you like the guy if you can't converse with him.

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lol @ that quote

 

 

no free passes to act like a bitch when you're around me. if you wanna act like a bitch then you can go date a bitch. Some chicken legged scarecrow with an inverted dick is the only "man" you can control.

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One would think I'd be offended by her "real men" statement and jump on the bandwagon and hammer her like most everyone here but I wasn't. I'm not offended becuase I can RELATE! She's struggling finding someone who compliments her and so am I. Instead of asking her questions and giving her advice yall call her a bitch and tell her don't use quotes like the one she used. This isn't a forum about keeping up with current slang/ebonics or street lingo!

 

Sure she could of used a better title like "Having problems finding men who are genuinely interested. BUT she's upset and is venting, can we give her a hall pass. I used a poor word choice before and went through exactly what you did OP, welcome to loveshack.

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Are you lame or are you clever? I forgot which you're claiming to be. And maybe if you lack sense of humor, THAT is what is holding you back? Or perhaps real men aren't interested in your sarcasm?

 

Listen, the common denominator in all your failings with men is YOU. I think what people are trying to get you to understand that the likelihood of their being something wrong with half the population (because Lord knows you're just freaking wonderful) is slim to none. It's probably YOU. So how about we figure out what YOURE doing wrong, fix it, and find you true Love?

 

Wow, that's very sweet of you. :D

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One would think I'd be offended by her "real men" statement and jump on the bandwagon and hammer her like most everyone here but I wasn't. I'm not offended becuase I can RELATE! She's struggling finding someone who compliments her and so am I. Instead of asking her questions and giving her advice yall call her a bitch and tell her don't use quotes like the one she used. This isn't a forum about keeping up with current slang/ebonics or street lingo!

 

Sure she could of used a better title like "Having problems finding men who are genuinely interested. BUT she's upset and is venting, can we give her a hall pass. I used a poor word choice before and went through exactly what you did OP, welcome to loveshack.

 

Thanks again, I think I've got a new rant topic now about fellow LS posters who clearly think that just because I used a certain phrase and said a certain few things in the wrong way I deserve to be scape goated and judged..ahh what a wonderful world this place truly is. I honestly thought this was a nice place I could come to for advice even a chat...how very wrong I was. To the lovely people that did say some encouraging stuff, thank you. To the rest of you..well, carry on I'm having just as much fun reading the **** you think about me as you are having typing it! :)

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Hmm, a woman arrogantly proclaiming that she's awesome and all the guys she meets are dicks or losers. It's a huge surprise that she only meets douchebags who think they're awesome and complain about women being cunts.

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All I can say is try sending word via friends that you are looking, they may know someone nice to hook you up with.

 

Dating can be a tough world to be in, best of luck!

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Your "theory" has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. For one "alphas" don't have trouble finding girls that want them. An alpha having dating problems is about as rare as a comet hitting the earth. Two, most shy nerdy guys don't feel "entitled" to having girls, they just want an average girl to look their way (which they don't). The "shy, nerdy girls" don't go after these guys, they go after alphas (which they can't get). These girls settle with the "shy, nerdy" guys.

 

Your lack of perspective is typical and just shows you have absolutely ZERO clue of what's going on.

 

I already understand the undertone of your posts and constant tirade. Basically you're a frustrated virgin yourself who is having problems attracting women you're interested in, throw in some PUA blogs, pseudo-science and psycho babble, and suddenly you're an expert on male/female relationships, right?

 

Except you're not. Your views are not only bitter, but they're incredibly distorted, and have little basis in the real world. Want to know something? No one gives a damn about the so called "alpha" and "beta" male paradigm in the real world, what happens is that men and women who are roughly as attractive and compatible in personality and interests attract each other get together and form relationships, and then there's people who struggle with dating because they lack something which is required to attract whoever or whatever kind they're attracted to.

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You ready for a real man yet?

 

 

I'm just one pm away.

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