crude Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Sometimes a woman THINKS she's intelligent, witty, and ambitious, but in reality she's more of a snob or whiner or hypocrite. Lots of men want the former, but not the latter. 1
sillyanswer Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 So you want a "real" man, one who is clever, ambitious, driven and different (what does that even mean?), and also someone who will listen to you, be nice, talk to you about your interests, be impressed with you..did I leave anything out? You missed out that he should also be good in the sack.
xxoo Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Because her best was oh so very good. Which isn't true for most people who have parroted that line since. Who stood by Marilyn at her worst? I wouldn't model my life and relationships after Marilyn Monroe! 3
sillyanswer Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Who stood by Marilyn at her worst? I wouldn't model my life and relationships after Marilyn Monroe! Her drug dealer? Is there an actual source for the quote anyway? Did she actually say it? Was it a line in a film (ie, her character saying it)? or is it just made up? I know it's widely attributed to her, but I'm not sure of the source (and I've also seen claims that she never said it, pointing to the lack of evidence that she ever did). So, I'm not sure. 1
EasyHeart Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Who stood by Marilyn at her worst? Joe DiMaggio?
monicaelise Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 There I said it! Where are the men that like women who are clever, who are ambitious, driven and different?! Or maybe I'm just wearing a sign that says 'yeah, I'm down for sex, don't take any interest in my personality, you can't stick your dick in that'...sorry, rant over. I just needed to vent. Or maybe it's me with the ass hole of a personality? Who knows! Well since you very clearly stated you just needed to vent, and you're obviously aware that it's possible some of your current frustration may be rooted in your behaviour, I'm just going to give a pat on the back and say hang in there. Most of us have had these moments at one time or another. It's the way the whole dating/relationship/mating process goes. I would ignore the personal attacks (some of the attackers are the very same folks that will insist that women always have it so easy in the dating world, so you'll be damned if you do, damned if you don't with them) but give some thought to the actual advice that's being offered. Remember, this too shall pass...
truth_seeker Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 There are REAL MEN out there but there are also LOSER WOMEN playing games on us which cause us to not want to take any woman seriously
ChessPieceFace Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 as Marilyn Monroe said 'if he can't handle you at your worst, then he sure as hell don't deserve you at your best' or something like that. And Marilyn Monroe's worst would be OD'ed, dead and naked in a hotel room, that's a lot to handle. Tip - try to avoid life advice from people who burned themselves out and died young with terrible life choices. 1
ThaWholigan Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 And why shouldn't she use that quote again? Let her vent, who are you to tell her to keep it to a minimum? That chip on your shoulder is getting pretty big. You're a bit dense, mate. The post was obviously in jest. She even liked it so I don't know what you're problem is or what chip you think I have. Take it to the inbox if its pissing you off so much
mesmerized Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Unlike others, I don't think the problem is you. The problem is the not so "real" men are the ones who are more likely to be out and about and to ask women out. Basically they make the most noise. Men who like those qualities in women are generally less noticable and I'll be honest with you, they are also rare.
fortyninethousand322 Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 There I said it! Where are the men that like women who are clever, who are ambitious, driven and different?! Or maybe I'm just wearing a sign that says 'yeah, I'm down for sex, don't take any interest in my personality, you can't stick your dick in that'...sorry, rant over. I just needed to vent. Or maybe it's me with the ass hole of a personality? Who knows! Well, I don't now your age but by about age 25 the guys who are good catches and like women like you describe here are already married or heading in that direction with someone they're currently dating. What's left is the sex crazed guys who avoid relationships like the plague (but who nonetheless have women who want relationships fawning over them), and the "lovable loser" types who are hard up for dates. If you want a relationship, go with the lovable losers. They are not ugly elephant man looking guys, but they might be socially awkward, bad at dating/relationships due to inexperience, and bad at sex. If you can get past that, you'll be fine.
ChessPieceFace Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 If you want a relationship, go with the lovable losers. They are not ugly elephant man looking guys, but they might be socially awkward, bad at dating/relationships due to inexperience, and bad at sex. If you can get past that, you'll be fine. And they're only bad at sex because they haven't had it. Give them a chance to learn, I'm sure most of them are eager to. 1
SJC2008 Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 OP I have a feeling you may be like me. You have a hard time finding men who stimulate your mind, that's how I feel. I don't necessarily mean on an intellectaul level, just in general. I just want to meet a woman with the same sense of humor as me but who also has a good head on her shoulders.
Woggle Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 There are plenty of women like that who have happy marriages and relationships. I don't know you but there might be some kind of message you are unconsciously sending out that turns a guy off. If you have the attitude that there are no good men guys might be picking that up and nothing turns off the opposite sex faster then if you think they are all scum. Another thing is that if I were doing online dating and any woman had that quote I would click next. Everybody has their bad days but it is like wearing a sign on her head that says drama. 1
SJC2008 Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 You're a bit dense, mate. The post was obviously in jest. She even liked it so I don't know what you're problem is or what chip you think I have. Take it to the inbox if its pissing you off so much If I interpreted it wrong that's my fault but I'm not the only poster here who has picked up on this.
El Brujo Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 There I said it! Where are the men that like women who are clever, who are ambitious, driven and different?! Right here. (waves hand frantically) Or maybe I'm just wearing a sign that says 'yeah, I'm down for sex, don't take any interest in my personality, you can't stick your dick in that'... That's because to a lot of guys, sex is the be-all-end-all... the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and yet they know they're not getting a gold trophy cup to put above their fireplace for it. Hmm... maybe someone should look into this? If someone made trophy cups with a plaque that said "I f'ed 1,000 women" or something like that, would men want them? It would be a hell of a lot better as a conversation piece than some boring old degree hanging on the wall!
Els Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Got one chained up right here. No, you can't have him. Go get your own. Advisably without the Marilyn Monroe quotes.
ThaWholigan Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 If I interpreted it wrong that's my fault but I'm not the only poster here who has picked up on this. That only means you wouldn't be the only one who has picked it up wrongly . Not that it's a fault.
Keenly Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 This post is prime sample as to why women should actually learn to start paying attention to the quiet, shy, nerdy guys.
soccerrprp Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Real man here! Anyone from North Texas want to meet me?! I mean, come on! There seems to be a loot of good people on this site...we should try to meet each other considering everyone else doesn't meet our needs. Am I right?
ThaWholigan Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 This post is prime sample as to why women should actually learn to start paying attention to the quiet, shy, nerdy guys. It could also serve as an incentive for those "quiet, shy, nerdy guys" to step out of their shell just a little .
Keenly Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 It could also serve as an incentive for those "quiet, shy, nerdy guys" to step out of their shell just a little . I'm not really seeing the A to B on that one. Your saying the guys should change because.thee op has problems finding the right man. When in fact its her that needs to increase the size of her dating pool.
ThaWholigan Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 I'm not really seeing the A to B on that one. Your saying the guys should change because.thee op has problems finding the right man. When in fact its her that needs to increase the size of her dating pool. It's just that guys always say girls should notice the shy guys, but the shy guys should also at least make an effort to be noticed even on occasions. I understand what you guys are saying (I said the same when I was a little younger), but it will fall on deaf ears regardless. 1
mesmerized Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 It's just that guys always say girls should notice the shy guys, but the shy guys should also at least make an effort to be noticed even on occasions. I understand what you guys are saying (I said the same when I was a little younger), but it will fall on deaf ears regardless. I also like to add, its a myth that shy nerd guys are after clever ambitious women. I interact with these men on a daily basis, and let me tell you, they also sit around together and drool over the same type of "hot" girl the other guys want/go for. The only difference is they cant get any. 5
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