SmileFace Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I never said I don't enjoy spending time with women. I've got 3 or 4 close female friends I really like but prefer them over spending time with my male friends? You're talking an alien language to me when you say that I've known at least 5 or 6 men who shared literally every hobby and interest I have. I've never met a female like that Well you may as well bend over now. Since you might as well be gay. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Ask SD how well it works for him. I actually don't give smart ass comments to women. Maybe I should start. o.O see, this is something I HAVE to disagree with. One of my best friends is overweight, but is VERRRYYY outgoing and has a sweet, bubbly, friendly personality. She has NEVER had a boyfriend, never had a date, only has had a handful of guys who got a bit drunk and kissed her. Frequently when out at parties she would be ignored by men. No one would ever approach her. She would often approach guys and they would reject her. She tried to keep positive but often would break down in private... and I know that she could try harder with dieting and exercise (she gets into phases where she diets/exercises and loses maybe 15 pounds, but then falls off the wagon and regains it). -So, there is my example of an amazing overweight woman who has been single her entire life. Even I'm of average weight and looks, and I've been single for 6 years! Asked out on dates twice in that time, went on them, and things just didn't work and no relationships formed. Now Phoe if you're average and been single for so long, then your friend probably doesn't have much chance. Do you secretly live in some sort of hidden valley that's nothing but women? If so, can I visit? Everybody likes snoo snoo. Link to post Share on other sites
miss_jaclynrae Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 115 lbs? LOL wut? That's a good weight when you're maybe 5'0. At 5'5, you should be around 120-130 Lbs if you work out and are decently built I think Miss Jackie is around 150-160 LBs at 5'10 and she looks great. Close to ideal for me Awwwww, how sweet. This is where I shock you all by saying... I am 5'10 and I weigh... 185. What what!?! Chickachicka yeahhhh. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I've never met a man who, if there was no sex involved, would prefer spending time with a woman over a man. That's an asinine notion (to me at least) Dude, your perception is skewed because of your personal love of your fellow man, so to speak. Lots of men crave the companionship of women. Just not you. Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I've never met a man who, if there was no sex involved, would prefer spending time with a woman over a man. That's an asinine notion (to me at least) Most men would say that they find other men more interesting but that doesn't mean we are sexually attracted to men or that we don't find women interesting. I prefer steak over burgers but I still love burgers Bottom or top. Just asking . 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I prefer steak over burgers but I still love burgers Hm. But you like 'em both grilled, though, right? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 I have no idea why there is such an impressive abundance of male whiners around here, but I'm happy to report that out in the larger world, there are people of both genders who realize that attention from the opposite sex is not the most important aspect of our existence. Yes, it can feel like it is at times, but it really isn't. And please, whining guys - STOP talking about how any woman, even an old and / or fat one, has it so much better than you. If someone feels lonely, isolated, ugly, in pain, rejected, invisible, nonsexual, empty - they feel really bad. Male OR female. I'll explain it. There's a thresh-hold. That is what YOU have to understand. All the guys who are here whining have been rejected by many women, have had no attractive women approach them, and by and large have been made to feel unattractive their whole lives. If they had been able to get a few women hitting on them who were attractive, they are not on here whining today. Do you see attractive guys who have rejected women whining? I don't. Not any REAL posters anyway. It's like most things in life. If you really have it bad, you're going to whine about it. If you have it average, you won't. So, it's not really fair to say you have the same pain if you've had attractive people hit on you. Not saying the whining is good, but that is why. Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'll also say, at least in my perspective, the whining in a way is kind of a 'cry for help'. Whiny men know that the women here who read their posts are the same ones rejecting them in real life. So, in a way they are saying, "Hey. I'm trying. Please give me a shot." Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Now Phoe if you're average and been single for so long, then your friend probably doesn't have much chance. Do you secretly live in some sort of hidden valley that's nothing but women? If so, can I visit? Everybody likes snoo snoo. I know it must be hard for her... I don't blame her for the times she breaks down about it. And while it IS a bit of a "hidden valley" there's no great abundance of women, just a lack of people in general. Hence my dilemma! btw, your inbox is full! Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 It's like most things in life. If you really have it bad, you're going to whine about it. If you have it average, you won't. So, it's not really fair to say you have the same pain if you've had attractive people hit on you. Not saying the whining is good, but that is why. So … you think, really, that it's more painful to not have anyone hit on you than it would be to sit here, day after day, reading things like "fat women don't count" if you are overweight? Or stuff like "women over 25 have no biological value"? Or … how about if guys hit on you all the time, but the one man you loved ran off with your best friend? Getting hit on doesn't make any of that better. Pain is not really relative. Someone experiencing it is feeling just as bad as you are when you're experiencing it. Some just love to whine and complain about theirs more than others, which is basically okay by me - just as long as they leave out the parts about how much easier others have it, when they have no idea about the sufferings of those others. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I think the difference is that men can be both cool and nerdy. I have a lot of male friends who are "cool" and social but enjoy videogames, comic books and obscure music. Most women don't fall into that category. if they're good looking, they usually have very vapid interests and if they're nerdy, then they're not usually good looking Also, guys look a lot better than women when they're fresh out of bed in the mornings, right? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'll also say, at least in my perspective, the whining in a way is kind of a 'cry for help'. Whiny men know that the women here who read their posts are the same ones rejecting them in real life. So, in a way they are saying, "Hey. I'm trying. Please give me a shot." Any complaints from women could be seen the same way; at the same time, I would hate for someone to date me out of pity. Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 So … you think, really, that it's more painful to not have anyone hit on you than it would be to sit here, day after day, reading things like "fat women don't count" if you are overweight? Or stuff like "women over 25 have no biological value"? Or … how about if guys hit on you all the time, but the one man you loved ran off with your best friend? Getting hit on doesn't make any of that better. Pain is not really relative. Someone experiencing it is feeling just as bad as you are when you're experiencing it. Some just love to whine and complain about theirs more than others, which is basically okay by me - just as long as they leave out the parts about how much easier others have it, when they have no idea about the sufferings of those others. Well, for starters, I started this thread seeing if I could fish out any overweight women who got no male attention. Nothing so far. I realize they have it tough. As for the over 25 thing, :lmao:. You laugh it off because you know it's not true. There was just a thread by a woman who is clearly over 40 who says she has no problem getting guys younger and HOT. Personally, I don't subscribe to the 'everybody hurts' theory. I actually am aware that a few guys here have it worse than me (even though I'm older). And I truly do sympathize with them. If there was a woman here who said she had been called ugly her whole life and been rejected 100 times, I'd be right here patting her on the back too. Link to post Share on other sites
Phoe Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 So … you think, really, that it's more painful to not have anyone hit on you than it would be to sit here, day after day, reading things like "fat women don't count" if you are overweight? Or stuff like "women over 25 have no biological value"? Or … how about if guys hit on you all the time, but the one man you loved ran off with your best friend? Getting hit on doesn't make any of that better. Pain is not really relative. Someone experiencing it is feeling just as bad as you are when you're experiencing it. Some just love to whine and complain about theirs more than others, which is basically okay by me - just as long as they leave out the parts about how much easier others have it, when they have no idea about the sufferings of those others. Agreed! and of course there are the men who say "oh, you're a decent looking girl who has no men trying to date you? NOT POSSIBLE. You must be secretly ugly or have an absolutely horrific personality" - which of course only makes me feel worse. Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Well, for starters, I started this thread seeing if I could fish out any overweight women who got no male attention. Nothing so far. I realize they have it tough. As for the over 25 thing, :lmao:. You laugh it off because you know it's not true. There was just a thread by a woman who is clearly over 40 who says she has no problem getting guys younger and HOT. Personally, I don't subscribe to the 'everybody hurts' theory. I actually am aware that a few guys here have it worse than me (even though I'm older). And I truly do sympathize with them. If there was a woman here who said she had been called ugly her whole life and been rejected 100 times, I'd be right here patting her on the back too. When I was overweight. I mean obese - I still got attention. Weight isn't much of a factor for all when it comes to success. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Any complaints from women could be seen the same way; at the same time, I would hate for someone to date me out of pity. Considering being a bit more lenient on your physical standards of height, face, and standards of charisma and social status is not what I would consider pity. It's more like, "Hey look. I can make you happy. I'll adore you. Choose me." 1 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Attraction is not logical, you can't talk somebody into liking you... Ain't that the truth. If it was possible, I would have had a few girlfriends by now. Link to post Share on other sites
SmileFace Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Ain't that the truth. If it was possible, I would have had a few girlfriends by now. Bull... and you know it. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Well, for starters, I started this thread seeing if I could fish out any overweight women who got no male attention. Nothing so far. I realize they have it tough. What would be good is if you could wrap your mind around the REALITY that "male attention" is not really that valued by most women. Almost all of us, fat, thin, ugly, pretty, have experienced sexual attention from males. Many times, completely inappropriate and hurtful. Like when you are about 12 and your babysitter's husband gives you a kiss - using his tongue. Men old enough to be your dad pulling over in their cars to offer you a ride home when you're walking home from the school bus stop. Your friend's boyfriend putting his hand on your ass while you are out at a show with them. Maybe you think that this all must feel very great and affirming, but it does NOT. It gives a girl a very mixed up perception of her own sexuality AND of male sexuality. it makes some girls believe (as quite a few regular a**holes - sorry, I meant regular posters - around here love to reiterate) that their only value is "what's between her legs." That doesn't feel any better to a girl / woman than it would feel to you to believe that your ONLY value is how much money you have in your wallet, or what level of prestige you have at your job. Honest. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author JuneJulySeptember Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Attraction is not logical, you can't talk somebody into liking you... That's just an excuse to justify going after the best looking people you can get. I haven't been able to physically attract anybody in my life, so I've adjusted my standards to be able to include women who might be amazing but less physically fortunate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Bull... and you know it. What's bull? That if it was possible to talk a girl into dating me, I still wouldn't be able to get a GF? Dude, you haven't seen my presentation of "Why you should date somedude" I have charts, flashy transitions and clips in my PowerPoint. It's a 30 minute program. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 What would be good is if you could wrap your mind around the REALITY that "male attention" is not really that valued by most women. Almost all of us, fat, thin, ugly, pretty, have experienced sexual attention from males. Many times, completely inappropriate and hurtful. Like when you are about 12 and your babysitter's husband gives you a kiss - using his tongue. Men old enough to be your dad pulling over in their cars to offer you a ride home when you're walking home from the school bus stop. Your friend's boyfriend putting his hand on your ass while you are out at a show with them. Maybe you think that this all must feel very great and affirming, but it does NOT. It gives a girl a very mixed up perception of her own sexuality AND of male sexuality. it makes some girls believe (as quite a few regular a**holes - sorry, I meant regular posters - around here love to reiterate) that their only value is "what's between her legs." That doesn't feel any better to a girl / woman than it would feel to you to believe that your ONLY value is how much money you have in your wallet, or what level of prestige you have at your job. Honest. Yup, girls experience nothing but inappropriate sexual attraction from creeps. Good, decent guys never show interest, heaven forbid. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Attraction is not logical, you can't talk somebody into liking you... You certainly can talk someone into liking you, but through charm, not logic. You can also talk someone out of liking you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Anela Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Considering being a bit more lenient on your physical standards of height, face, and standards of charisma and social status is not what I would consider pity. It's more like, "Hey look. I can make you happy. I'll adore you. Choose me." I don't know many men who would see past the desperation in that type of approach. I also don't want to feel that someone had to lower their standards in order to date me. Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 You certainly can talk someone into liking you, but through charm, not logic. You can also talk someone out of liking you. That is what I was talking about. It's not possible to have a conversation with a girl and give logical reasons of why she should date me. If it was possible, I would have done it already. Link to post Share on other sites
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