Power Girl Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Correct me if wrong but only rich males and/or male models have choice to some degree in who the breed with. The average guy has to play by female rules of game. Game is a method of upping your appeal towards women. Also game aka PUA is still giving women what THEY desire NOT what YOU DESIRE. I have to dress, smell, think and respond using Alpha traits the female desires. My question is this. If men refuse to play the relationship game which is controlled by women will they always be alone? BTW realizing how women function has made me extremely depressed. Seeing the ultimate reality of women after studying MGTOW, Heartiste and some of RooshV's info is pushing me into Nihilism. It's become a product females desire or face being invisible and unattractive forever. What's the point anymore? Maybe it's best to just ghost staying single enjoying life.
KungFuJoe Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Correct me if wrong but only rich males and/or male models have choice to some degree in who the breed with. The average guy has to play by female rules of game. Game is a method of upping your appeal towards women. Also game aka PUA is still giving women what THEY desire NOT what YOU DESIRE. I have to dress, smell, think and respond using Alpha traits the female desires. My question is this. If men refuse to play the relationship game which is controlled by women will they always be alone? BTW realizing how women function has made me extremely depressed. Seeing the ultimate reality of women after studying MGTOW, Heartiste and some of RooshV's info is pushing me into Nihilism. It's become a product females desire or face being invisible and unattractive forever. What's the point anymore? Maybe it's best to just ghost staying single enjoying life. In your case, it's best if you just stay single. 8
Author Power Girl Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 you are wrong. very wrong. actually, pathetically wrong. Prove I'm wrong.
sid3 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Prove I'm wrong. Who equates dating with breeding? I'm going out with a lady who's company and body I enjoy. Sorry, breeding options hasn't even crossed my mind.
monicaelise Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Correct me if wrong but only rich males and/or male models have choice to some degree in who the breed with. The average guy has to play by female rules of game. Game is a method of upping your appeal towards women. Also game aka PUA is still giving women what THEY desire NOT what YOU DESIRE. I have to dress, smell, think and respond using Alpha traits the female desires. My question is this. If men refuse to play the relationship game which is controlled by women will they always be alone? BTW realizing how women function has made me extremely depressed. Seeing the ultimate reality of women after studying MGTOW, Heartiste and some of RooshV's info is pushing me into Nihilism. It's become a product females desire or face being invisible and unattractive forever. What's the point anymore? Maybe it's best to just ghost staying single enjoying life. K, you're wrong. Consider yourself corrected. Want proof? Check out the crowds of illegitimate children and unwed mothers trucking in to see their baby daddies every week during visiting hours at any major prison. Doesn't get much broker (or uglier) than those guys. 1
SmileFace Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Correct me if wrong but only rich males and/or male models have choice to some degree in who the breed with. Yes, men are stupid creatures. Just here to breed with no choice. I actually agree. No reason correcting this logic 1
MrNate 2.0 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Correct me if wrong but only rich males and/or male models have choice to some degree in who the breed with. The average guy has to play by female rules of game. Game is a method of upping your appeal towards women. Also game aka PUA is still giving women what THEY desire NOT what YOU DESIRE. I have to dress, smell, think and respond using Alpha traits the female desires. My question is this. If men refuse to play the relationship game which is controlled by women will they always be alone? BTW realizing how women function has made me extremely depressed. Seeing the ultimate reality of women after studying MGTOW, Heartiste and some of RooshV's info is pushing me into Nihilism. It's become a product females desire or face being invisible and unattractive forever. What's the point anymore? Maybe it's best to just ghost staying single enjoying life. I think I have the right answer, and it is: The Relationship game is controlled by men, not women. Yes, most men will have to chase women initially. That's nature. If they both like each other, something romantic may happen (but NOT unless the man says so;)). Women get an assload of perks in life. Everyone knows this. It's not doom and gloom whatsoever if you just play your cards right. And you have many. Trust me. Now go out there, and become a family man.
TheGuard13 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Pretty sure that power exists on either end of the dating world. Relationships are controlled by both parties. There's no magic answer to relationships, because every one is different. Game is basically just common sense and self-awareness mixed with various mating rituals that have existed for a long time, but that a lot of people are unaware of, or not practiced at.
MrNate 2.0 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Pretty sure that power exists on either end of the dating world. Relationships are controlled by both parties. There's no magic answer to relationships, because every one is different. Game is basically just common sense and self-awareness mixed with various mating rituals that have existed for a long time, but that a lot of people are unaware of, or not practiced at. Exactly. It's pretty balanced. Yes men usually do have to do some courting at first, but I definitely wouldn't view that as women controlling anything really. Most would just like a man to come to them first.
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Hm. My husband is neither a male model nor rich, yet he chose to "breed" (oh, brother) with me. He employed no "game." And, miracle of miracles, I also chose to "breed" with him! Win / win! Breeding so rocks. 3
Treasa Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Hm. My husband is neither a male model nor rich, yet he chose to "breed" (oh, brother) with me. He employed no "game." And, miracle of miracles, I also chose to "breed" with him! Win / win! Breeding so rocks.
sid3 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Hm. My husband is neither a male model nor rich, yet he chose to "breed" (oh, brother) with me. He employed no "game." And, miracle of miracles, I also chose to "breed" with him! Win / win! Breeding so rocks. Maybe you're just really breedable:)
somedude81 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 I see it like this. Man shows interest in woman. Woman decides yes or no. Putting it another way. You apply for a job, have an interview with the hiring manager. Hiring manager says yes or no. Who has the power in those situations?
TheGuard13 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Neither. There's an exchange of resources on both ends, employee and manager. If you don't want the job, you don't have to bring your skills to that manager, and you don't have to take the job, or keep it if you get it. Power is largely an illusion much of the time. 3
MrNate 2.0 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Neither. There's an exchange of resources on both ends, employee and manager. If you don't want the job, you don't have to bring your skills to that manager, and you don't have to take the job, or keep it if you get it. Power is largely an illusion much of the time. Listen to this man. For he is wise.
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Approaching romantic and / or sexual relationships as a power struggle is a losing proposition. 2
somedude81 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Neither. There's an exchange of resources on both ends, employee and manager. If you don't want the job, you don't have to bring your skills to that manager, and you don't have to take the job, or keep it if you get it. Power is largely an illusion much of the time. Lets assume that the person applying for the job wants it. Who decides if the person applying for the job gets hired? (I can't believe I'm actually having this argument)
darkmoon Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 "Correct me if wrong but only rich males and/or male models have choice to some degree in who the breed with" when they're that wonderful, i'm wary...i'm too easy to replace
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Lets assume that the person applying for the job wants it. Who decides if the person applying for the job gets hired? (I can't believe I'm actually having this argument) My personal belief is that a person who actively goes after what they want is in an immeasurably better position than one who just sits passively hoping that what they want might just happen along and drop in their lap some day.
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 IThe females in our generation have virtually demanded that we learn game. Artificially inflated sense of physical desirability' date=' entitlement, higher narcissism than past generations, less leeway for beta traits... It is almost necessary for the man in his 20s to employ some forms of Game if he wishes to consistently attract high-quality females.[/quote'] I find it amusing how you consistently talk about the undesirable traits of the "females" of your generation. News flash - you and these "females" have all been socialized, for the most part, similarly. If narcissism, inflated self worth, entitlement, etc. are really characteristics of your female counterparts, they are yours as well. I do, in fact, find your generation to be for the most part profoundly plagued with entitlement. PUA wouldn't even be a thing if guys like you didn't feel entitled to "get something" from girls, would it.
chex Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 I guess I'm lucky to be born into the next generation that doesn't have to follow the doctrine of "Game" to get a girl. 1
TheGuard13 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 In every encounter with the opposite sex, some level of "game" will be necessary to draw interest and sustain interest. "Game", keeping the relationship "exciting", eliminating complacency in a relationship, it's all the same thing. There are differing levels of game and there are differing types of "game". Flirting is "game". Going to the gym and getting shredded is "game". Being rich is "game". Social domiance in the presence of females is "game". Taking your significant other on a surprise vacation is "game". Dressing to accentuate your best features and downplay other ones is "game". It's all Game. True. I've found that game is kind of a lazy and somewhat redundant way of explaining a whole lot of different kinds of social interaction and attributes. Society has ALWAYS demanded that we learn social interaction. "Game" is not a new concept. It's just a new word for many different disciplines of social interaction, many of which can be learned via common sense. I don't think the concept of "Beta" is new either. Certain attitudes about certain things have persisted for a long, long time. Women don't treat beta traits with disgust...they treat men with ONLY beta traits with disgust. Most people tend to be less impressed by less well rounded, adaptive people in general. I suspect that what most women want, ideally, is a man (or a woman) with both alpha and beta (and everything else) traits. A man who possesses a balance of traditionally "masculine" and "feminine" qualities alike, who can adapt to various pressures and situations, not someone who can only handle certain situations without crumbling. It's less about not giving a ****. It's more about caring just enough that you don't let failure or other people's expectations and actions toward you have immense impact on your life, your self esteem, etc. Lets assume that the person applying for the job wants it. Who decides if the person applying for the job gets hired? (I can't believe I'm actually having this argument) In that case, the hiring manager. But a relationship (while work) is not a job. It's a relationship. The fact that there is a screening process involved doesn't mean that one person has any real "power" over the other person. Both parties have to screen the other one. If a woman comes to a man and tells him that she likes him and he has to decide whether he wants her, do we suddenly say that men have all the power when it comes to dating because its his choice whether to choose her? No. 1
somedude81 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 My personal belief is that a person who actively goes after what they want is in an immeasurably better position than one who just sits passively hoping that what they want might just happen along and drop in their lap some day. It all depends on how in-demand the passive entity is. And of course, women don't have to be completely passive. An average woman, who is a little assertive, can basically get almost any man she wants.
Toddbt12y1 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Gender wars. LS and gender wars... Soo...it's like being five years old again. Girls have cooties, man, stay away. Let's make this easy. Everyone sucks. Everyone is both bad and good. Just because one has a vag. And the other a penis, doesn't mean one is better than the other; Or screws over the other gender more. Or decides the fate of a relationship...OP. Seriously, go gay, and stop these lame threads -- as of men are somehow screwed by women in decision making. Men can make or break a relationship or what goes on in it, just as much as women can. People -- are they perfect? Men must be. Women are just witches wanting to destroy us...oh my!
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