Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 incoming "it was the mans fault they divorced" argument. Watch. No. Men fear divorce due to the repurcussions. Men are also much more likely to be content in marriages AND be unhappy and stay in a marriage than woman are. (this wasnt always the case, but now it is due to women being able to work...now women can leave!) I will admit some women are selfish and bad people. Im not saying women are perfect either. But there are very few men out there that can be satisfied with one woman for the rest of their life and take care of a woman emotionally for the rest of their life. They do exist...but they are few and far inbetween. 1
Revolver Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 OK. Men place more emphasis on looks than personality when compared to women Men nowadays that have alot of options expect sex quickly or else youre done. Good luck expecting commitment before sex...doesnt exist anymore and if you say you respect yourself they say youre prude Men nowadays without alot of options hang around until they get sex, then they will string you along if they can if they dont want to commit The industry for objectifying hot women is a ton worse than the industry for objectifying hot men Men marry average looking girls and then gawk,hit on, fantasize and make rude comments about other girls while in a relationship all the time...ironically, men are less likely to put up with this from a gf Men who get cheated on divorce their wives far more than wives divorce cheating husbands... Men's horndog, disprespectful behavior is excused and justified while women's needs are her being bitchy, hormonal, and so on Over 50% of married men who have affairs say they get sex several times a week from their wives...while women tend to cheat for more emotional reasons Emotional neglect is the top reason on divorce papers where women initiated a divorce (over 70% of women initiate divorces!) Men nowadays degrade women that act the same as them sexually yet encourage them to put out quickly What does that have to do with me(none are direct quotes from me) or proof that 95 percent of the male population sees women as sexual objects? Your basically basing this off a few guys on an Internet forum/men you've dated 1
Dusk1983 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Exactly one of the reasons why I will never get seriously involved with a man ever again. No woman is ever good enough for a man, no matter what she does for him or how much she loves him. And yet your avatar is a picture of a man and a woman together. And you spend time posting on a dating forum.
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 These days both genders cheat at about the same rate. Yes they do...but look at the REASONS they cheat men cheat more often than not to get a good **** with another woman women cheat more often than not because their husband doesnt treat them well anymore, or is emotionally neglectful again...individual differences...but this is the overall trend. The type of a man to come here and post thoughtful threads is not the typical man in the USA
ThaWholigan Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No. Men fear divorce due to the repurcussions. Men are also much more likely to be content in marriages AND be unhappy and stay in a marriage than woman are. (this wasnt always the case, but now it is due to women being able to work...now women can leave!) I will admit some women are selfish and bad people. Im not saying women are perfect either. But there are very few men out there that can be satisfied with one woman for the rest of their life and take care of a woman emotionally for the rest of their life. They do exist...but they are few and far inbetween. No they are not. 1
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 You keep saying " there are scientific studies " but you have yet to post, link, or cite the source for a single one of these "studies" the closest you have come is "I see them at work." Sorry I am not buying it. Prove to me men are as bad as you claim and I can prove to you women care about money as the single most determining factor. Otherwise, you are making things up. That is fine and a good point. The next few days I will spend finding these scientific articles (I will have to find free ones on the internet and not at the paid database I use at work) and post them here.
chex Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No. Men fear divorce due to the repurcussions. Men are also much more likely to be content in marriages AND be unhappy and stay in a marriage than woman are. (this wasnt always the case, but now it is due to women being able to work...now women can leave!) I will admit some women are selfish and bad people. Im not saying women are perfect either. But there are very few men out there that can be satisfied with one woman for the rest of their life and take care of a woman emotionally for the rest of their life. They do exist...but they are few and far inbetween. Yeah, a lot of men refuse to divorce because they know that they'll have an almost 0 chance of being with their children for the majority of the time.
Woggle Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Women cheat for the same reasons men do. They see somebody that gets them hot and they don't let being married stop them. It is the same for both genders.
Drseussgrrl Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 No. Men fear divorce due to the repurcussions. Men are also much more likely to be content in marriages AND be unhappy and stay in a marriage than woman are. (this wasnt always the case, but now it is due to women being able to work...now women can leave!) I will admit some women are selfish and bad people. Im not saying women are perfect either. But there are very few men out there that can be satisfied with one woman for the rest of their life and take care of a woman emotionally for the rest of their life. They do exist...but they are few and far inbetween. I work in an office with four other men (I'm the only woman) and all four of them are married and happy. Never once have they made an inappropriate remark to me. There are nice guys out there.
Charlie Harper Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Ladies you are painting with a very big brush here, and in my view if all the people you have dated have the same problem, then the problem is you, becuase you tend to date complicated men. I get your points and concur on some of them because I have seen a lot of people in their 40 and 50 drop the wife and go for the Barbie. I set my standards very early on, because I dated a ton of girls and make tons of stupid mistakes, and used a lot of people. (*hint, check my Nickname). My standards were, She must be intelligent, witty, funny, has to carry herself and be independent economically, has to speak at least 2 languages and be communicative 7good humored. I did not put looks on the list, not because I did not think they were important, but because I though they were less important IN MY CASE in the long run. I dated pretty fugly people up to Victoria Secret kind models, everyone is deferent but in the end what mattered to me was my "list" and I found it but I used to look in the wrong places... my advice change friends environment even work, maybe you are looking were you wont find them.
Revolver Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 The biggest BS argument in HISTORY is "Women cheat for emotional reasons and attention." No lol, some women just want new dick, just like some men want new ass.
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 pbjbear and Negative Nancy, I don't even know what to say to you two, honestly. It bugs me that you guys have such a low opinion of men. I know there are bad people out there. But that's what it is...bad PEOPLE. Not bad men. I know women that are just flat out NUTS. Had a coworker/friend, who had her boyfriend arrested for RAPE because he went to Vegas with friends and didn't tell her. A "former" best friend of my wife would go to Vegas with us and kiss random guys (she's married). But, to be fair, she did tell her hubby that she planned on cheating on him. He just laughed it off. She was serious, apparently. My first girlfriend lied in small claims court about causing an accident WHEN I WAS IN THE CAR AND KNEW WHAT HAPPENED!! She just didn't want to pay the thousand dollars in damages (and her parents were RICH). She also stole her sister's friend's car for a joyride when she was out of the country for a month. Of course she got caught. I could go on and on. Some people just suck. But it's PEOPLE...not men or women. PEOPLE. 4
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Women cheat for the same reasons men do. They see somebody that gets them hot and they don't let being married stop them. It is the same for both genders. The numbers for men and women that do this are vastly different. Just because youre a guy who doesnt do this doesnt mean most of the men surrounded around you arent.
ThaWholigan Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 pbjbear and Negative Nancy, I don't even know what to say to you two, honestly. It bugs me that you guys have such a low opinion of men. I know there are bad people out there. But that's what it is...bad PEOPLE. Not bad men. I know women that are just flat out NUTS. Had a coworker/friend, who had her boyfriend arrested for RAPE because he went to Vegas with friends and didn't tell her. A "former" best friend of my wife would go to Vegas with us and kiss random guys (she's married). But, to be fair, she did tell her hubby that she planned on cheating on him. He just laughed it off. She was serious, apparently. My first girlfriend lied in small claims court about causing an accident WHEN I WAS IN THE CAR AND KNEW WHAT HAPPENED!! She just didn't want to pay the thousand dollars in damages (and her parents were RICH). She also stole her sister's friend's car for a joyride when she was out of the country for a month. Of course she got caught. I could go on and on. Some people just suck. But it's PEOPLE...not men or women. PEOPLE. Dude........ ignore list .
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Ladies you are painting with a very big brush here, and in my view if all the people you have dated have the same problem, then the problem is you, becuase you tend to date complicated men. I get your points and concur on some of them because I have seen a lot of people in their 40 and 50 drop the wife and go for the Barbie. I set my standards very early on, because I dated a ton of girls and make tons of stupid mistakes, and used a lot of people. (*hint, check my Nickname). My standards were, She must be intelligent, witty, funny, has to carry herself and be independent economically, has to speak at least 2 languages and be communicative 7good humored. I did not put looks on the list, not because I did not think they were important, but because I though they were less important IN MY CASE in the long run. I dated pretty fugly people up to Victoria Secret kind models, everyone is deferent but in the end what mattered to me was my "list" and I found it but I used to look in the wrong places... my advice change friends environment even work, maybe you are looking were you wont find them. Honestly, this is the main reason I wont ever get married. I am picky who I am close to but when I get close to someone I give them my heart and soul. In todays society, doing that and getting ****ed over is too much of a risk. I should have lived in the 1950's where at least Id be more appreciated (though stuck if I got a bad husband) Most men who dont do this Charlie, gladly would if they didnt have to suffer consequences and if they had the right opportunity. However, most men dont get that opportunity and most men stay in marriages with average looking women who they always think they could do better than if they have options, because they fear consequences. That is NOT love 1
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Dude........ ignore list . If I ignored everyone on LS who had a bitter agenda against men or women I would have no one to talk to...except you, kiwi, castle and a few others. I do use my ignore list, but it's for obvious trolls.
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Honestly, this is the main reason I wont ever get married. I am picky who I am close to but when I get close to someone I give them my heart and soul. In todays society, doing that and getting ****ed over is too much of a risk. I should have lived in the 1950's where at least Id be more appreciated (though stuck if I got a bad husband) Most men who dont do this Charlie, gladly would if they didnt have to suffer consequences and if they had the right opportunity. However, most men dont get that opportunity and most men stay in marriages with average looking women who they always think they could do better than if they have options, because they fear consequences. That is NOT love So you give up? You don't try? That's it? Throw in the towel? How old are you anyways? If you're not even 30 yet...I'm sorry...you ain't seen NUTHIN yet. Come talk to me when you've had to put yourself to sleep with 100 proof southern comfort and sleeping pills because of relationship issues.
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 So you give up? You don't try? That's it? Throw in the towel? How old are you anyways? If you're not even 30 yet...I'm sorry...you ain't seen NUTHIN yet. Come talk to me when you've had to put yourself to sleep with 100 proof southern comfort and sleeping pills because of relationship issues. Lucky for me men arent the end all be all. My single female friends seem happier on a daily basis than my married female friends so I doubt Im the only one who feels this way. The only reason I post here is when I am at work and occasionally have days where I do nothing all day
Charlie Harper Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 If I ignored everyone on LS who had a bitter agenda against men or women I would have no one to talk to...except you, kiwi, castle and a few others. I do use my ignore list, but it's for obvious trolls. LOl´ed So true. To PJ, sorry to hear you have found only jerks and such on your romantic adventures. Never say you wont get married. I know because I did say it too! I have found that hot and super hot women, with good jobs, intelligent, that know their value (have a great self image) that do exercise , get really angry sometimes because, they will not be approached, not even spoke to, then there is the jerk/hot woman phenomenon, were you find a super hot, inteligent and great woman, dating/hanging/marrying a Dolt, because said dolt was the inly who talked to her in the first place!!!. Look elsewhere, you may be looking for diamonds in a pile of dung with a spoon! 1
TheZebra Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I work in an office with four other men (I'm the only woman) and all four of them are married and happy. Never once have they made an inappropriate remark to me. There are nice guys out there. Same... most of the people I work with are married/LTR and I never hear them complain about their SO. Both men and women. There's good and bad people out there. You just have to find a good one. And I think women AND men can be equally as picky, though I've always found men to be the less pickier sex. Haven't you ever heard about the 'Husband Store' joke? Here it is in case anyone hasn't: A store that sells new husbands has opened in New York City, where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates: You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a particular floor, or may choose to go up to the next floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building! So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads: Floor 1 - These men Have Jobs. She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads: Floor 2 - These men Have Jobs and Love Kids. "That's nice", she thinks, "but I want more." So she continues upward. The third floor sign reads: Floor 3 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, and are Extremely Good Looking. "Wow," she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going. She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads: Floor 4 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Good Looking and Help With Housework. "Oh, mercy me!" she exclaims, "I can hardly stand it!" Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads: Floor 5 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak. She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads: Floor 6 - You are visitor 31,456,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store. PLEASE NOTE: To avoid gender bias charges, the store's owner opened a New Wives store just across the street. The first floor has wives that love sex. The second floor has wives that love sex and have money. The third, fourth, fifth and sixth floors have never been visited. 3
ThaWholigan Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 If I ignored everyone on LS who had a bitter agenda against men or women I would have no one to talk to...except you, kiwi, castle and a few others. I do use my ignore list, but it's for obvious trolls. True, there's only like 3 people on mine . pjbear is a new addition however, alongside Negative Nancy and Greznog.
Charlie Harper Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 ^best joke post related to a thread EVAAARRR...
Drseussgrrl Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 If you have such a bitter attitude about someone of the opposite sex, you're going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy and probably end up alone. I could never be happy with a man who assumed I was a superficial, gold-digging, heartless wench who was convinced I only wanted to date "hot" men. Sca-roo that! Even though I haven't met my dude, I love men! 2
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Self fulfilling prophecy. So freakin true in so many ways. 2
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 That's not much of consolation considering most ( American ) women start chunking up immediately after HS, if they weren't fatties to begin with. We want you when you're young and hot. Ive never been overweight and I get fitter each year of my life. Each year I increase my physical goals
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