Revolver Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 The Only thing most men in america want is a woman he's physically attracted to that makes him feel good. And thats pretty much it, if that's "high standards" then it is what it is
Drseussgrrl Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I guess maybe I am not stating it right. Some of you say you have high standards and are fine...however, the large % of the male population cannot afford to have high standards (if you dont understand this concept...disregard this thread but it is true.) because more men dont have as many options. I am saying when you TALK to guys about what they want, and compare it what they have, what they talk about wanting is way more than what they have. Guys want the hottest girl possible, plus one without an atricious personality is what I get from married men. Married woman say they want an attractive partner yes, but I very rarely hear them say "SMOKING HOT" and list as many personality traits (but they do list income more) Guys will hit on any semi attractive female...doesnt mean I meet his standards. The fact that different types of guys hit on me means nothing. Guys will **** anything...does that mean I meet his standards? NO. Men think they could always do better. I find married men are always looking for the next best thing or know they cant get it and have given up...and most married women I know are very happy with what they have. All the men are secretly hoping to get a hotter woman or hoping they can one day have enough good qualities to be a player. However, they dont, so they settled You're starting to sound like a member of the bitter brigade around here, darlin'. I just don't find these generalizations to be true at all. 5
Revolver Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I do not desire any of the hottest guys. The hottest guys have all of the traits I have listed above. Most women over the age of 25 DO NOT want to the hottest guy...dont you know women place more emphasis on personality when compared to men? (at least the vast majority do) I have had tons of hot guys chase me...last week I had to be nasty to a "hot" womanizing co worker who would not stop asking me out and asking me why I dont like him...I really should just email him this thread. online dating example...online dating is not typical of the real world. You would get many of the women who ignore you online in real life... Yeah... But When they're older as you just pointed out. A decent argument can be made that young women(id say HS/College age)are just as shallow as young men.
dichotomy Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I think many men simply want to be respected by a woman. When it comes to a serious relationship we kind of want to be your hero - THE guy in your world. Silly a bit I know. Perhaps on the non physical front - if your smarter, stronger, make more money, pushy or something, we feel we won't be able to be that guy, that hero for you. But what do I know? Thats just my view as one guy. But on the physical front, pure sexual attraction to body or looks - I think while many men can be picky (tall skinny big boobed blond), I think as a whole we have a much wider range of body types/parts that turn us on then do women for men. If you look at typical pron site, (Not that I ever do:rolleyes:) what do you see? Sections for BBW women, older women, women of color, women with small breasts, big butts, little butts hairy women, you name it, etc.... Now be honest ladies - do you have entire magazines or pron sites dedicated to really fat guys... that you masturbate to? No ? Case closed then - on the media body image thing. You just need to ignore Vogue and know that what ever body type, color, parts, bits you got ladies - there is a section of the male population drooling over you. 2
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Op is like the female version of Necromancer. 4
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Op is like the female version of Necromancer. I am a product of my environment. I am not an idealist, I am a realist. Perhaps invite me to your parallel universe, where all these great quality guys exist more than 3% of the male population and I will change my mind gladly. 1
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Yeah... But When they're older as you just pointed out. A decent argument can be made that young women(id say HS/College age)are just as shallow as young men. Yep they are...but women grow up quicker. Female brain is fully evolved by age 25, the male brain doesnt fully evolve until age 30. The frontal lobe, the part of the brain that makes us more human than animal, develops slower in men than it does in women. I date men older than me and many men I meet arent much better than their 20's Id also say based on your posts you are part of the 95% of the male population that is selfish and sees women first as sexual objects and second as human beings
Els Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Op is like the female version of Necromancer. I'd go with D'Argennes, actually. They both have better spelling/grammar than Necromancer. 3
KungFuJoe Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I am a product of my environment. I am not an idealist, I am a realist. Perhaps invite me to your parallel universe, where all these great quality guys exist more than 3% of the male population and I will change my mind gladly. Honestly...sometimes I would like some of you to spend some time with my wife and I. To see what it's like to be around two people who truly and honestly care and love each other...equally. 1
Revolver Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Should we have "low" standards? I think we should be picky about what we want in a partner - not ridiculously so, but what exactly we need in a partner. Yep they are...but women grow up quicker. Female brain is fully evolved by age 25, the male brain doesnt fully evolve until age 30. The frontal lobe, the part of the brain that makes us more human than animal, develops slower in men than it does in women. I date men older than me and many men I meet arent much better than their 20's Id also say based on your posts you are part of the 95% of the male population that is selfish and sees women first as sexual objects and second as human beings Explain to me how im apart of this "95 percent" who sees women as sexual objects? Lol And you haven't met all men in America so you have no idea what your talking about. All your doing is projecting your bad experiences with men to every other guy on the planet 2
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Explain to me how im apart of this "95 percent" who sees women as sexual objects? Lol And you haven't met all men in America so you have no idea what your talking about. All your doing is projecting your bad experiences with men to every other guy on the planet Look at your posting history about sex. Its not rocket science. 1
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 I hate to say this, but I actually agree with JJS here. FWIW, solely based on reading the OP's past 10 posts, I'd venture to say that if she genuinely has that many men interested in her, men aren't being picky enough in the ways that matter. Sure insult me, but this is an internet forum. You really think I go around saying this to men I date? I dont voice my opinions I give every guy I meet the benefit of the doubt thinking he could be the exception...guess what? Ive met one out of prob over 30 men I have gone out with (meaning at least 3 dates or more) that wasnt like this...and I run away from players, womanizers, super alpha types 1
ThaWholigan Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Look at your posting history about sex. Its not rocket science. I could easily say that your posts all reflect a hatred and contempt of men. That's not rocket science either. 1
Revolver Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 SOOO.... No answers or actual proof.... anything? Just like I thought. You still haven't explained how you know how 95% of the male population thinks.
Woggle Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 You sound just like the bitter guys around here. Neither gender has a monopoly on the never settle mentality. 1
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 SOOO.... No answers or actual proof.... anything? Just like I thought. You still haven't explained how you know how 95% of the male population thinks. OK. Men place more emphasis on looks than personality when compared to women Men nowadays that have alot of options expect sex quickly or else youre done. Good luck expecting commitment before sex...doesnt exist anymore and if you say you respect yourself they say youre prude Men nowadays without alot of options hang around until they get sex, then they will string you along if they can if they dont want to commit The industry for objectifying hot women is a ton worse than the industry for objectifying hot men Men marry average looking girls and then gawk,hit on, fantasize and make rude comments about other girls while in a relationship all the time...ironically, men are less likely to put up with this from a gf Men who get cheated on divorce their wives far more than wives divorce cheating husbands... Men's horndog, disprespectful behavior is excused and justified while women's needs are her being bitchy, hormonal, and so on Over 50% of married men who have affairs say they get sex several times a week from their wives...while women tend to cheat for more emotional reasons Emotional neglect is the top reason on divorce papers where women initiated a divorce (over 70% of women initiate divorces!) Men nowadays degrade women that act the same as them sexually yet encourage them to put out quickly 1
Negative Nancy Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 She's right. 99% of men settle because they can't get the hot supermodel they secretly pine for, and would cheat in a heartbeat if they had the opportunity. Never get seriously involved with a man, even the ones who claim to be "good men" turn out to be just like everyone else. 1
Negative Nancy Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Men marry average looking girls and then gawk,hit on, fantasize and make rude comments about other girls while in a relationship all the time Exactly one of the reasons why I will never get seriously involved with a man ever again. No woman is ever good enough for a man, no matter what she does for him or how much she loves him.
Keenly Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 OK. Men place more emphasis on looks than personality when compared to women And women place more emphasis on money and status than women. Is there a point to only pointing out the flaws of one gender? You are quick to leave out the faults of women quick to blame men for all the problems in the dating world. 1
chex Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 OK. Men place more emphasis on looks than personality when compared to women Men nowadays that have alot of options expect sex quickly or else youre done. Good luck expecting commitment before sex...doesnt exist anymore and if you say you respect yourself they say youre prude Men nowadays without alot of options hang around until they get sex, then they will string you along if they can if they dont want to commit The industry for objectifying hot women is a ton worse than the industry for objectifying hot men Men marry average looking girls and then gawk,hit on, fantasize and make rude comments about other girls while in a relationship all the time...ironically, men are less likely to put up with this from a gf Men who get cheated on divorce their wives far more than wives divorce cheating husbands... Men's horndog, disprespectful behavior is excused and justified while women's needs are her being bitchy, hormonal, and so on Over 50% of married men who have affairs say they get sex several times a week from their wives...while women tend to cheat for more emotional reasons Emotional neglect is the top reason on divorce papers where women initiated a divorce (over 70% of women initiate divorces!) Men nowadays degrade women that act the same as them sexually yet encourage them to put out quickly The thing is that many of these statistics can be twisted either way, depending on what part of the studies or whatever you quote. Like 70% of divorces being initiated by women .. doesn't that mean they're the ones with "higher standards?"
Author pbjbear Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 She's right. 99% of men settle because they can't get the hot supermodel they secretly pine for, and would cheat in a heartbeat if they had the opportunity. Never get seriously involved with a man, even the ones who claim to be "good men" turn out to be just like everyone else. Most of the men here say they never would. What people say and what they do in the situation is often very different. Theyve done scientific studies on cheating and find with men its more the opportunity and the chance of never getting caught...for women its more a reason. But theres always personal exceptions The people here laugh at me but there are other educated, rational people who agree with me. One of my research classes my professor went over stats on cheating and dissected the reasons why and you want to know what he said at the end that pissed people off but is true based on accurate, well done research? "Men you dont want your wife to cheat on you....take care of her emotionally and physically...most likely she wont. Women do the same, but I cannot guarantee it as much as for the men" Men are not wired to be monogamous. I meet men who have a wife out of their league, personality and looks, and if a different woman gave them a chance to cheat, they would. Why? Shes a different woman...research shows women are satisfied with one sexual partner as long as things are switched up from time to time...men need multiple partners. doesnt matter how great the wife is...its in their DNA Well its in my DNA to prefer richer guys...yet the last few guys IVE dated didnt make alot of money and I looked past it...men need to get over their DNA as well 1
Keenly Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 The thing is that many of these statistics can be twisted either way, depending on what part of the studies or whatever you quote. Like 70% of divorces being initiated by women .. doesn't that mean they're the ones with "higher standards?" incoming "it was the mans fault they divorced" argument. Watch. 1
Woggle Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 These days both genders cheat at about the same rate.
chex Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I think there's a lot of truth to these arguments, OP. Many more men are the jealous type. They act like a woman is their property, and that's certainly a problem, and a double standard that should be changed.
Keenly Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Most of the men here say they never would. What people say and what they do in the situation is often very different. Theyve done scientific studies on cheating and find with men its more the opportunity and the chance of never getting caught...for women its more a reason. But theres always personal exceptions The people here laugh at me but there are other educated, rational people who agree with me. One of my research classes my professor went over stats on cheating and dissected the reasons why and you want to know what he said at the end that pissed people off but is true based on accurate, well done research? "Men you dont want your wife to cheat on you....take care of her emotionally and physically...most likely she wont. Women do the same, but I cannot guarantee it as much as for the men" Men are not wired to be monogamous. I meet men who have a wife out of their league, personality and looks, and if a different woman gave them a chance to cheat, they would. Why? Shes a different woman...research shows women are satisfied with one sexual partner as long as things are switched up from time to time...men need multiple partners. doesnt matter how great the wife is...its in their DNA Well its in my DNA to prefer richer guys...yet the last few guys IVE dated didnt make alot of money and I looked past it...men need to get over their DNA as well You keep saying " there are scientific studies " but you have yet to post, link, or cite the source for a single one of these "studies" the closest you have come is "I see them at work." Sorry I am not buying it. Prove to me men are as bad as you claim and I can prove to you women care about money as the single most determining factor. Otherwise, you are making things up.
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