Marek Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 When it comes to attracting mates, the onus is on men to be witty, to be charming, to make her laugh and to be chivalrous. Women don't need any of these attributes when it comes to meeting men; they simply have to sit there and talk. It's men who need to show women a good time; the converse doesn't apply. I guess that's why there are more disgruntled men in the dating game than there are women.
DC4 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Ugh, enough of that. I am what I feel to be an attractive female and I'm sitting here staring at the phone waiting for my steady dating partner to respond to my offer to go out. Also, maybe you're not reading enough threads. Plenty of women feel exactly as you do.
El Brujo Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Because a lot of men and women who should know better, unfortunately still buy into that silly caveman psychology.
Author Marek Posted January 22, 2013 Author Posted January 22, 2013 Ugh, enough of that. I am what I feel to be an attractive female and I'm sitting here staring at the phone waiting for my steady dating partner to respond to my offer to go out. Also, maybe you're not reading enough threads. Plenty of women feel exactly as you do. Plenty of women share my sentiments? Really? So you're saying that plenty of women feel that they are the ones who must be witty, entertaining, and gregarious? That's the first time I heard of this.
Treasa Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Almost a week ago I started heavily flirting with a friend of mine who I wanted to go further with. He responded in kind. We are now dating. The end. 2
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 When it comes to attracting mates, the onus is on men to be witty, to be charming, to make her laugh and to be chivalrous. Women don't need any of these attributes when it comes to meeting men; they simply have to sit there and talk. It's men who need to show women a good time; the converse doesn't apply. I guess that's why there are more disgruntled men in the dating game than there are women. Women do feel like they need to make an effort, show game, etc. when it is a top male they are after. Otherwise, if a woman is a 3 and guy who is a 5 is going after her, she'll wait for him to impress her. Why? Because of the way the game is structured. If you happen to be a guy on the the bottom, that's your lot in life. You just have to take a deep breath and go at it.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Plenty of women share my sentiments? Really? So you're saying that plenty of women feel that they are the ones who must be witty, entertaining, and gregarious? That's the first time I heard of this. If they are interested in the guy, than they want to make it to the next date just as much as he does. 2
DC4 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Plenty of women share my sentiments? Really? So you're saying that plenty of women feel that they are the ones who must be witty, entertaining, and gregarious? That's the first time I heard of this. Absolutely! If you don't believe me, start reading more threads in this forum. Women freak out everyday regarding if a guy likes them, if they are doing the right think to keep his interest, etc.
AlexDP Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 When it comes to attracting mates, the onus is on men to be witty, to be charming, to make her laugh and to be chivalrous. Women don't need any of these attributes when it comes to meeting men; they simply have to sit there and talk. It's men who need to show women a good time; the converse doesn't apply. I guess that's why there are more disgruntled men in the dating game than there are women. You make it sound like work. It's the people who enjoy talking to others who get dates. 5
Emilia Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Plenty of women share my sentiments? Really? So you're saying that plenty of women feel that they are the ones who must be witty, entertaining, and gregarious? That's the first time I heard of this. Really? That sounds a bit disingenuous to me. Unless you have never heard of women being dumped of course?
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Absolutely! If you don't believe me, start reading more threads in this forum. Women freak out everyday regarding if a guy likes them, if they are doing the right think to keep his interest, etc. Absolutely agree. But it's always a top guy they are going after. Women will do absolutely everything in their power to get and keep a top guy, including being subjected to being put down, belittled and of course complaining about all of this to undesirable guys. I've read the threads you refer to. And it's always, "This hot, tall guy at work I am so into, Gawd, should I ask him out? Should I?"
unluckyinlove4 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 We have to do the same as well. I don't understand...do all of these people complaining about dating not have friends? People are attracted to fun gregarious people. Those people have more friends because they are more fun. Quieter people generally have a smaller circle of friends. But it's a two way street in romance and in friendships.
Author Marek Posted January 22, 2013 Author Posted January 22, 2013 Grammatical Error: They share my sentiments in regard to themselves when meeting guys.
Author Marek Posted January 22, 2013 Author Posted January 22, 2013 We have to do the same as well. I don't understand...do all of these people complaining about dating not have friends? People are attracted to fun gregarious people. Those people have more friends because they are more fun. Quieter people generally have a smaller circle of friends. But it's a two way street in romance and in friendships. I don't have many friends. Thus I rarely meet women. The women I met last year were only from online dating. I had 5 dates in total but not one second date. These women want a guy that is practically perfect in every department, yet they themselves didn't possess that many desirable attributes. It seems rather hypocritical, but I've learned to accept that most young women are hypocrites.
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 We have to do the same as well. I don't understand...do all of these people complaining about dating not have friends? People are attracted to fun gregarious people. Those people have more friends because they are more fun. Quieter people generally have a smaller circle of friends. But it's a two way street in romance and in friendships. Being popular with people helps. But that is a whole 'nother animal that is usually harder to accomplish for unsuccessful guys than getting a woman in itself. It's definitely not just about being friendly and gregarious. Average and above average women don't need that to get average men. They can sit there on the bus with guys knowing nothing about them and be asked out by 10-15 guys who can tell nothing about them other than that they are physically attractive.
Emilia Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I had 5 dates in total but not one second date. These women want a guy that is practically perfect in every department, yet they themselves didn't possess that many desirable attributes. It seems rather hypocritical, but I've learned to accept that most young women are hypocrites. Why would you care what women who don't have many desirable attributes think? A complete waste of time what they want if you don't find them attractive, non? Who cares?
AlexDP Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Why would you care what women who don't have many desirable attributes think? A complete waste of time what they want if you don't find them attractive, non? Who cares? It is also very difficult to get a great vibe with people you don't find that attractive. You'll act bored and thus be boring.
Emilia Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I don't have many friends. Thus I rarely meet women. Being popular with people helps. But that is a whole 'nother animal that is usually harder to accomplish for unsuccessful guys than getting a woman in itself. The issue you both have is not the women but your lack of social skills. You would get further faster if you addressed the issue rather than hide from it behind pointless accusations. 2
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 The issue you both have is not with women but your lack of social skills. You would get further faster if you addressed the issue rather than hide from it behind pointless accusations. I have friends. Good ones that are female. I used to have 50-60 people show up to birthday parties of mine. That doesn't do anything. For it to make a difference for women, you have to be the charismatic guy who can entertain a whole room. That takes a LOT of work, and in some cases just cannot be accomplished depending on what you look like and your base personality.
serial muse Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 These women want a guy that is practically perfect in every department, yet they themselves didn't possess that many desirable attributes. It seems rather hypocritical, but I've learned to accept that most young women are hypocrites. To know what people actually think about things it helps to talk with them as human beings. Otherwise you're just assuming. Talking only with similarly-minded folks who are just confirming your worst fears doesn't count, and it certainly doesn't seem to help, does it? 1
somedude81 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Damn, how many of these threads are we going to have. Yes women have it easier. Just accept it and move on. 1
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Damn, how many of these threads are we going to have. Yes women have it easier. Just accept it and move on. Some days it helps to get it out of your system. But you're right. Accept and move on. 1
unluckyinlove4 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Being popular with people helps. But that is a whole 'nother animal that is usually harder to accomplish for unsuccessful guys than getting a woman in itself. It's definitely not just about being friendly and gregarious. Average and above average women don't need that to get average men. They can sit there on the bus with guys knowing nothing about them and be asked out by 10-15 guys who can tell nothing about them other than that they are physically attractive. I'm not saying you have to be popular to find a mate, I'm just saying people want to be around gregarious and bubbly people--men AND women.
filani Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 @ Marek I won't lie to you bro, at a point in my life your post described my dating mind set to a T. But here's the thing , it's just a mind set and you have the power to change it. Re assess your priorities , too many of us guys have low standards in picking GF's in that all they have to do to impress a lot of us is to show a lot of cleavage and wear a small tight skirt We (guys) need to get to the point where ***** like that just doesn't impress us anymore and we start assessing women using a higher standard!!! For example 1) Yeah she's got a great body but does she have a brain to go along with it? 2) Does she have a reputation on the dating scene? Is it good or bad? 3) Is she 'playing hard to get? ' Don't 'chase' , walk away !!! Grown up women are upfront about liking you , Little girls play games. Just a few of the standards that guide my dating life.
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I'm not saying you have to be popular to find a mate, I'm just saying people want to be around gregarious and bubbly people--men AND women. Then you're wrong. That's not NEARLY good enough. Just being friendly and gregarious. Not just for romantic relationships but really for anything in life. People want what you can give them, and a smile and friendly demeanor is never enough.
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