MrCastle Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 It's almost as if...some women think height doesn't matter and some do! Seems that way right?
ascendotum Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 It's almost as if...some women think height doesn't matter and some do! and also that some women downplay height but it really does factor in their choices (ONS count the same as bfs) Height is part of your looks, though I've known quite a few who say looks are only the face and height & physique are not...and there is a few on LS too
somedude81 Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Everybody knows that women care about height and prefer tall men. It's common sense. I do like how when the OP said that 5'6 is too short for women, nobody disagreed with him
MrCastle Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 I do like how when the OP said that 5'6 is too short for women, nobody disagreed with him I did. Well, I argued with the dude who said his 5'11 wife was off limits to short men. I'm 5'7 and last girl I dated was 5'10, without heels, and loved wearing heels. I swear, sometimes I'm tempted to make a "Castle's Exploits Thread" and cite the ethnicity and height of my conquests so short and ethnic men, and shallow women can shut the **** up already. This is getting annoying.
PogoStick Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 I'm not sure how you can possible prove to me that a short guy has a chance with my ex. Just because some taller women are ok with it doesn't mean she is. After 7 years I'm confident I know her preferences better than you. She never has and never will date shorter.
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I'm not sure how you can possible prove to me that a short guy has a chance with my ex. Just because some taller women are ok with it doesn't mean she is. After 7 years I'm confident I know her preferences better than you. She never has and never will date shorter. Not your ex specifically. Tall women in general. As made evidence by my success with women no matter their height, despite me being short. So your 5'11 ex wouldn't date shorter, doesn't mean the next one won't.
charlietheginger Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 In observation tall guys 6ft plus do well with Women ONLY if they masculine looking Such as muscular shoulders arms legs Man looking face. Not bodybuilders but A guy that fills out his shirt in all the right places A average build would be 6ft 200lbs 10 12% body fat Not big but not scrawny. The guys that dont do well have tooth pick looking Arms and tooth pick looking legs. A guy 6"2 thats very thin all over arms legs narrow Shoulders does not do well. At any height women are attracted to a mesomorph Frame meso means middle. Not to big not to small. A mesomorphic body would resemble michelangelo Statue of "david" google the statue for a image
sweetjasmine Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I swear, sometimes I'm tempted to make a "Castle's Exploits Thread" and cite the ethnicity and height of my conquests so short and ethnic men, and shallow women can shut the **** up already. This is getting annoying. You're right, it's the shallow women who won't shut the **** up about men's height. 1
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 You're right, it's the shallow women who won't shut the **** up about men's height. I also said short men. Both sides. Short men saying "I'm short, I'm doomed" and the shallow chicks saying "Yeah, you are doomed. My boyfriend is close to 7 feet tall :love:". And I'm sitting here like uhh, I'm getting more action than any of my friends, tall or otherwise.... Surely it's not the death sentence it's made out to be on here
cerridwen Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) 6'2". 5'6" is too short for guys. However, not once has my height helped me get laid. Seriously guys? Nobody needs reassurance that women are attracted to tall men Apparently Marek does. I also said short men. Both sides. Short men saying "I'm short, I'm doomed" and the shallow chicks saying "Yeah, you are doomed. My boyfriend is close to 7 feet tall :love:". And I'm sitting here like uhh, I'm getting more action than any of my friends, tall or otherwise.... Surely it's not the death sentence it's made out to be on here I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for women on here declaring that men on the shorter side are doomed. I've not seen many of those. Edited January 17, 2013 by cerridwen I wanted to add the words "touchy, touchy" then didn't. :)
somedude81 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Apparently Marek does. And yet he wouldn't want to be my height because he thinks its too short for women... I'll need to keep my eyes peeled for women on here declaring that men on the shorter side are doomed. I've not seen many of those. Nah, they just rather exclaim their love for tall men. 1
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Nah, they just rather exclaim their love for tall men. Bingo. They can't help but gush about them whereas short men are just tolerated. Like I've said many times though, this is almost exclusively an online thing. Being short has lost me a total of 0 dates.
somedude81 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Bingo. They can't help but gush about them whereas short men are just tolerated. Like I've said many times though, this is almost exclusively an online thing. Being short has lost me a total of 0 dates. Have you ever thought that maybe your charm / game was able to make up for your lack of stature? Or do women make their interest known to you before you do anything?
sweetjasmine Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I also said short men. Both sides. Short men saying "I'm short, I'm doomed" and the shallow chicks saying "Yeah, you are doomed. My boyfriend is close to 7 feet tall :love:". And I'm sitting here like uhh, I'm getting more action than any of my friends, tall or otherwise.... Surely it's not the death sentence it's made out to be on here No one's referring to short height as a death sentence or something that "dooms" them except somedude and the other two or three guys who start thread after thread after thread after thread about their height. How many women have responded to those pleas for attention with comments about how they've dated shorter men and like them? And how many women have responded in this thread saying they prefer taller men? And who gives a flying f-ck if some women prefer taller men? Should I be crying myself to sleep at night because some men out there prefer DD breasts and red hair? It doesn't matter because the instant someone says something positive about a trait someone's sore and insecure about, they flip their sh-t and assume the entire world is out to get them. I'm frankly sick of coddling people's extremely fragile egos and trying to help them to get a grip and adopt a more realistic perspective on life. If people are happy to go through life intent on interpreting a handful of comments as the absolute truth and ignoring any evidence to the contrary, just because those comments confirm their worst suspicions and allow them to continue to wallow in their self-inflicted misery, then fine. Good luck with that. But it's ridiculous to say that you can't trust what women say because some have different opinions than others. And it's a waste of time for people like me who prefer shorter to average height men to say that because no one with this kind of complex ever listens anyway. 2
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Have you ever thought that maybe your charm / game was able to make up for your lack of stature? Or do women make their interest known to you before you do anything? I mean, there have been some girls who were attracted to me before I opened my mouth, but I think overall my looks are pretty neutral. I'm not making women moist when I enter a room, but I'm also not repulsing them. My personality is what's going to make or break the chemistry I think. My game (I don't really like that term but I don't know what else to call it) is the tightest among people I know I would say. Most of it is due to my charm and ability to say something witty on the fly. I'm a creative writer, so dialogue has always been my thing. I know what to say, how to say it, when to say it. That's the only edge I have and I use it to my advantage. You have to use what you got. My creative mind has given me the ability to make any woman laugh or smile, it's what's kept me in the running no matter how good looking the girl is.
the_entertainer1 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Marek, all you need is some confidence. If you go around thinking that girls aren't interested, then you won't be projecting a very good 'vibe'. If you think you won't attract them, you won't. Most women love a man with some confidence (I know I do). Yes, it's a good start to smile at girls, or to chat to them about school. Now try to branch out a little further. Talk to them in the coffee shop, or the bar on campus (if there is one). Even the library. Comment on something they're ordering/doing/reading. You could talk about the weather. Compliments are always nice too. If you were feeling brave you could start off with "I don't want to sound creepy or anything, but I really like your ... "(whatever it is - just not shoes. Then she'll think you're gay). Also, someone else (I can't remember who) was right when they said that it's the guy's "job" to lead the conversation a little. I met a guy about a month ago and I was nervous the first time he called, but he led the conversation by asking questions, telling me what he'd been up to, etc. and it was fine. We've got our 4th date tonight. I'm going to use my own "story" to illustrate my point. I'm intelligent, have a good sense of humour and I'm quite confident in my general demeanour. However, that confidence was mostly just an act. I have a large circle of friends but I've never been in a relationship before, and it's only now that I'm realising it was probably due to self-confidence issues. It took me ages to realise that deep down, I was masking a lot of insecurity, mainly concerning my appearance, even though I'm probably more attractive than I think I am. It wasn't until a guy told me that I was pretty and beautiful, etc., that I really started believing it. That has helped me enormously with my confidence levels. I try not to 'use' external validation now, and instead tell myself good things about myself. And it works. My point is ... you're tall (that's a big plus, even if you think it's not - believe that it is and it will be!). You're well-educated. You sound like a nice guy. They're my main pre-requisites for dating someone. That, and a little bit of assertiveness. Don't be scared to put yourself on the line. All a girl can say is no ... and if they do, she's probably not the right one for you anyway.
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 No one's referring to short height as a death sentence or something that "dooms" them except somedude and the other two or three guys who start thread after thread after thread after thread about their height. How many women have responded to those pleas for attention with comments about how they've dated shorter men and like them? And how many women have responded in this thread saying they prefer taller men? And who gives a flying f-ck if some women prefer taller men? Should I be crying myself to sleep at night because some men out there prefer DD breasts and red hair? It doesn't matter because the instant someone says something positive about a trait someone's sore and insecure about, they flip their sh-t and assume the entire world is out to get them. I'm frankly sick of coddling people's extremely fragile egos and trying to help them to get a grip and adopt a more realistic perspective on life. If people are happy to go through life intent on interpreting a handful of comments as the absolute truth and ignoring any evidence to the contrary, just because those comments confirm their worst suspicions and allow them to continue to wallow in their self-inflicted misery, then fine. Good luck with that. But it's ridiculous to say that you can't trust what women say because some have different opinions than others. And it's a waste of time for people like me who prefer shorter to average height men to say that because no one with this kind of complex ever listens anyway. I understand what you're saying. But I feel like I'm the defacto voice on this forum for unsuccessful men. Me and Wholigan, actually, because we've both had hurdles we had to overcome to get to where we are. I wasn't born into success, I built it. So I know for a fact it can be done. A lot of what I read on here is mostly negative, either from men who have given up, or women who, if I'm being honest, do come off a bit shallow with some of their "preferences". My job is to give them a first hand account of someone who turned his luck around, despite being short, despite being skinny, despite being a minority. It can be done. So I feel in threads like these, I have to come in and speak my peace, because I have a personal attachment to what's being discussed. 1
StanMusial Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 If you were feeling brave you could start off with "I don't want to sound creepy or anything, but I really like your ... "(whatever it is - just not shoes. Then she'll think you're gay). I was eating lunch with some friends one day and a guy tried to pick up one of the girls at our table. At one point he complimented her on the color of her nail polish. LOL. I am not kidding. When he finally gave up and walked away she was laughing behind his back and saying he was gay. 1
somedude81 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I mean, there have been some girls who were attracted to me before I opened my mouth, but I think overall my looks are pretty neutral. I'm not making women moist when I enter a room, but I'm also not repulsing them. My personality is what's going to make or break the chemistry I think. Here's how I see it. A tall good looking guy walks up to a woman, her first thought is, "Ooh he's hot, I want to take him for a ride." A short normal looking guy walks up to a woman, her first thought is, " Impress me " My game (I don't really like that term but I don't know what else to call it) is the tightest among people I know I would say. Most of it is due to my charm and ability to say something witty on the fly. I'm a creative writer, so dialogue has always been my thing. I know what to say, how to say it, when to say it. That's the only edge I have and I use it to my advantage. You have to use what you got. My creative mind has given me the ability to make any woman laugh or smile, it's what's kept me in the running no matter how good looking the girl is. So yes, I strongly believe that your game is what wins them over. You're able to make up for your appearance. Guys like me who don't have the skills to make up for their appearance, well you already know my story. Somehow I need to figure how you do what you do, and apply something similar to myself, of I'm going to end up being 40 years old and still complaining about women.
xxoo Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Here's how I see it. A tall good looking guy walks up to a woman, her first thought is, "Ooh he's hot, I want to take him for a ride." A short normal looking guy walks up to a woman, her first thought is, " Impress me " Women aren't thinking "Impress me" with regard to the normal looking guy. She's not even thinking that much about the average men who move in and out of her space all day long. They are just neutral. It is up to you to shift yourself out of neutral position. Good news: it's really not that difficult to do. In fact, it can be a lot of fun!
sweetjasmine Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I understand what you're saying. But I feel like I'm the defacto voice on this forum for unsuccessful men. Me and Wholigan, actually, because we've both had hurdles we had to overcome to get to where we are. I wasn't born into success, I built it. So I know for a fact it can be done. A lot of what I read on here is mostly negative, either from men who have given up, or women who, if I'm being honest, do come off a bit shallow with some of their "preferences". My job is to give them a first hand account of someone who turned his luck around, despite being short, despite being skinny, despite being a minority. It can be done. So I feel in threads like these, I have to come in and speak my peace, because I have a personal attachment to what's being discussed. It certainly can be done. And it's not an easy feat to overcome some of the crippling insecurities a lot of people have, but they do themselves no good in seeking out things that confirm their negative attitudes and ignoring anything that might contradict the very beliefs holding them back. As for this thread, what did people say that was so shallow? If I had posted, "Part of my attraction to my H is his height of 5'9"," would anybody have freaked out? It's actually true. He's the perfect height...for me. Would it have hurt tall men's feelings to see someone write that? If someone is hurt by the fact that a random stranger appreciates a specific trait their partner possesses, then there's something deeper going on than "hey they're shallow!".
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 It certainly can be done. And it's not an easy feat to overcome some of the crippling insecurities a lot of people have, but they do themselves no good in seeking out things that confirm their negative attitudes and ignoring anything that might contradict the very beliefs holding them back. As for this thread, what did people say that was so shallow? If I had posted, "Part of my attraction to my H is his height of 5'9"," would anybody have freaked out? It's actually true. He's the perfect height...for me. Would it have hurt tall men's feelings to see someone write that? If someone is hurt by the fact that a random stranger appreciates a specific trait their partner possesses, then there's something deeper going on than "hey they're shallow!". The first few pages consisted of both men and women completely bewildered that a 6'2 man is struggling in dating, as if as long as you have height, nothing else need apply. The OP himself tried to explain that's not the be all, end all, with more chiming in that hey, he should be optimistic because he's tall. Nothing about working on himself, like the advice shorter men get, it's hey, you're tall, women love tall men, or you're tall, I'm a woman who loves tall men, it's all good! The love fest for tall men is unnecessary. Obviously, being tall is not enough for this man to succeed, so let's start talking about things he can actually do to improve his relations with women.
xxoo Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 The first few pages consisted of both men and women completely bewildered that a 6'2 man is struggling in dating, as if as long as you have height, nothing else need apply. The OP himself tried to explain that's not the be all, end all, with more chiming in that hey, he should be optimistic because he's tall. Nothing about working on himself, like the advice shorter men get, it's hey, you're tall, women love tall men, or you're tall, I'm a woman who loves tall men, it's all good! The love fest for tall men is unnecessary. Obviously, being tall is not enough for this man to succeed, so let's start talking about things he can actually do to improve his relations with women. Re-read the first two pages, as objectively as possible. The only people saying the bolded were: men.
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Here's how I see it. A tall good looking guy walks up to a woman, her first thought is, "Ooh he's hot, I want to take him for a ride." A short normal looking guy walks up to a woman, her first thought is, " Impress me " So yes, I strongly believe that your game is what wins them over. You're able to make up for your appearance. Guys like me who don't have the skills to make up for their appearance, well you already know my story. Somehow I need to figure how you do what you do, and apply something similar to myself, of I'm going to end up being 40 years old and still complaining about women. For me mystery is my bread and butter. I give the girl just a taste of what I can offer and see if she bites. If I had to pick the best qualities that have made me successful, it's passion, wit/humor, boldness/confidence, creativity, style, and being cool. I had to work on being what I perceived to be "cool". This included the way I walk and the way I talk. Among other things, but I mostly display the coolness in my body language. I've said it before, I used Rebel Without A Cause as my template. James Dean is the king of cool. He's who I wanted to be. So I took some of his stuff and used what I could. Now it's become second nature. I did a total personality transformation. You can be whoever you want to in this life. I don't believe this idea that people can't change. I wanted to be cool, so I became cool.
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Re-read the first two pages, as objectively as possible. The only people saying the bolded were: men. Then it started on page 3. I'm not getting into hard details here, the main point was people of both sexes were giving the guy an ego stroke for his height as opposed to giving some concrete advice he can use to improve his dating life.
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