SJC2008 Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Alot of men have poor social skills but as I've said before its disingenuous to tell them that looks don't matter or play a factor. Of course it does. But I've seen that alot on this site "looks don't matter for guys" and that's crap. "Confidence" and "game"can only get every man so far. This is a very good point, similar to mine. As long as you're not super awkward and can make decent convo, a woman who's ATTRACTED to you will put in effort/meet you half way. Case in point the OP! He gets lots of numbers so apparently he's not afraid to approach and make convo. Cold approaches are worthless unless you're VERY good looking.
Author Sun Devil Posted January 16, 2013 Author Posted January 16, 2013 Looking at the responses to this thread, I see that all of the people who are on this forum who are struggling with women have some form of social issue. i looked at their other threads and it just reconfirms what I had guessed. To Revolver, not all men know how to or are willing to improve their looks.
somedude81 Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Looking at the responses to this thread, I see that all of the people who are on this forum who are struggling with women have some form of social issue. i looked at their other threads and it just reconfirms what I had guessed. To Revolver, not all men know how to or are willing to improve their looks. Ask yourself. Do we struggle with women because we have social issues? Or, do we have social issues because we struggle with women?
ThaWholigan Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 Ask yourself. Do we struggle with women because we have social issues? Or, do we have social issues because we struggle with women? Does it matter which way? Something must be done, DAMNIT [vince mcmahon voice] 1
Author Sun Devil Posted January 16, 2013 Author Posted January 16, 2013 Somedude81, I saw what you have said on your other threads. You have admitted that you have social issues. People gave you advice, have you been applying them?
Failboy Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Ask yourself. Do we struggle with women because we have social issues? Or, do we have social issues because we struggle with women? I agree. How do you expect a guy to not have social issues if women are never interested in him throughout pretty much his entire life? Of course that will mess a person up to some degree, there's no way to avoid that. It's not even about being "shy" or "awkward" either. A super hot guy who is shy will be seen as "hard to get" and "cool", "laid back" - a super hot guy who is "awkward" will be considered "unique" and "interesting". 1
StanMusial Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I think you have to learn to crawl before you learn to walk. If you can't relate to people in general whether it be guys or girls you will have problems in social situations. Which is the best place to meet girls, eg. club/bar, parties, outings, etc. The only way around it in the interest of picking up girls is to be very good-looking, like top 1% type good looking.
SJC2008 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Let's look at social skills from a broader angle. If I was THAT socially awkward I wouldn't have any male frineds either! I mean if I can be friends with men and conversate and shoot the chit and whatever you want to add, my social skills can't be that bad right? I get along with pretty much anyone and am liked by most people. Meaning I'm not some social outcast that lives under a rock. I've asked for numbers IRL and gotten dates, etc. My point is that it's still mostly about looks. If a woman finds you attractive and she likes your personality you're in as long as you're not too far from "normal". The better looking you are the more slack you get, if you're not getting much slack the woman you're dating/talking to don't find you attractive enough to give you slack, you're on thin ice right out of the gate!!!
Author Sun Devil Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 I am wondering, do any of you guys who struggle with women actually go out and try to meet new women, as well as try to expand your social circle?
MrCastle Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Does it matter which way? Something must be done, DAMNIT [vince mcmahon voice] No chance in hell 1
Necris Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I am wondering, do any of you guys who struggle with women actually go out and try to meet new women, as well as try to expand your social circle? Actually yes, at least for myself I do actually go out and try to meet new women, of course that hasn't brought me any closer to dating success. Now I have had a few dates, though usually I'm rejected before the date, unfortunately of the dates I have had I have never actually had a 2nd date before, the girl usually gets free food/movies/etc. tells me she had a nice time and then fades away or reveals she has a boyfriend, or something else happens.
Author Sun Devil Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 I talked to dozens of girls last semester with no success. I looked up what I am doing wrong on pua forums and found out that I need to establish an emotional connection to get a girl to like me. Necris, it is possible that you do not connect with girls or have them build interest. That would explain why they dont give you a second date. The fact is that you were able to get a date, which means they were giving you a chance.
Author Sun Devil Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 Any guys here who are charming and charismatic yet can't get a girl?
somedude81 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Any guys here who are charming and charismatic yet can't get a girl? This guy. He's beyond smooth, but the ladies just don't like him. 2
Author Sun Devil Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 How do you know he is charismatic?
chex Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 How do you know he is charismatic? Probably knows him IRL.
Author Sun Devil Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 Looking at that picture, it is obvious that the guy does not take care of himself. It looks like he does not care what he looks like
KungFuJoe Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Looking at that picture, it is obvious that the guy does not take care of himself. It looks like he does not care what he looks like I think somedude was being sarcastic......... 1
somedude81 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I think somedude was being sarcastic......... The Kung Fu is strong in this one.
ThaWholigan Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I think somedude was being sarcastic......... SunDevil is also autistic like me - he probably does not understand sarcasm quite that well yet.
KungFuJoe Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 SunDevil is also autistic like me - he probably does not understand sarcasm quite that well yet. I'm starting to think you just pose as being autistic so you can get sympathy sex or something. I mean...if you're autistic, somedude is my Aunt Sally.
Author Sun Devil Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 I do a little bit, but still have some issues. However, I am doing whatever it takes to learn hpw to talk to girls. I am about to hire a dating coach and hopefully I will get a girl by tbe end of the year
somedude81 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Any guys here who are charming and charismatic yet can't get a girl? OK, I'll be nice. I've never known of a charming, charismatic, smooth guy who couldn't get women. Most guys look slightly better than my friend Stevy Joe. So with charisma, they would do fine with women. Several people on this forum have seen my picture and know that I'm not a troll. With a bit of charm and a dash a boldness, I'd do fine.
Author Sun Devil Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 This is why I am taking a communications class as well as hiring a dating coach. I also might look at a speech course this fall. I used to be very shy, but through hard work, I overcame it. If I can do it, then there is no reason you can't.
somedude81 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 This is why I am taking a communications class as well as hiring a dating coach. I also might look at a speech course this fall. I used to be very shy, but through hard work, I overcame it. If I can do it, then there is no reason you can't. Well it's great to be able to communicate effectively and hold a conversation. Though it's just the foundation for being able to attract women. Putting it another way. What you are doing is learning arithmetic. Basic math. Knowing how to win a woman over with your words is calculus.
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