KungFuJoe Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 It is easy to become a jerk. All you got to do is stop caring about the people around you and think only about yourself. By giving up your empathy, it is easy to do. You ever tell yourself to stop caring? Impossible. Ask anyone who is trying to get over an ex or the death of a loved one. If it was that easy to just "turn off" your emotions or feelings, there would be no need for therapists or drugs.
Esoteric Elf Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Don't alter who you fundamentally are if you are good just for some attempt at female validation, unless you do not care about debasing yourself. Different girls are attracted to different things. An idea concerning many jerks is that many have confidence, and, since men are the ones who approach, girls end up with those men who pursue. The equation isn't much more difficult than that. Just be yourself (a hopefully genuinely nice guy) and be more direct in your approach. As I said, different girls dig different things.
normal person Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Question is moot. You can't just become a jerk. You are who you are. Someone who isn't naturally a "jerk" will just come off as looking like an idiot. Agree. Whatever you do, don't try and adopt a "persona" or act like "X" because you think it'll get you girls. If being who you are doesn't work, improve yourself naturally rather than try and fabricate an identity that's incongruous to the rest of your life. If you do attract someone like this, it'll be the wrong person. That being said, there is some insight in the post that suggesting being a jerk was better than being completely uninvolved and forgettable. You don't need to be a jerk, but you need to have something that stands out and merits attraction. Humor, charisma, talent, etc. OP, I've asked you before: "What reasons do you give a girl to be attracted to you?" You didn't respond.
Violet11 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Have to agree, don't be a doormat, be an adult and fun. When a guy is a jerk (or creepy/scary), gee, thanks for enlightening me...now get away from me....
Lonely Ronin Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 what if this guy has to first be a jerk before he can learn to be himself... then he should be prepared to have some women not like him, and to get some really negative and harsh rejections.
CptSaveAho Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Women .... LOVE DRAMA there's a saying "drama = love" say this to any chick, they will laugh because they know its true... Therefor creating drama / being a jerk will get their emotions stirring and is a good thing, no matter what anyone says in this thread
Lonely Ronin Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 he's already suffered rejection. well, lets see how he does if he makes a woman hate him, I'm sure he will like that rejection a lot less.
Pyro Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Some people tell me that I need to start being a jerk to women in order to get them attracted to me. Being nice has gotten me nowhere and I want to know if there is anyone here who became better with women by treating them like crap. Go ahead and try out this new lifestyle and in the mean time I will look forward to your future threads of asking us why you are only able to attract the crazies and no one sane.
aed Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Some people tell me that I need to start being a jerk to women in order to get them attracted to me. Being nice has gotten me nowhere and I want to know if there is anyone here who became better with women by treating them like crap. I think most women dont find these men jerks. Those men have their own values and don't need women for any validation. They set up their own boundaries, and go after their own needs. Even when this means they hurt a women's her feelings. It is not something they get a kick off. But they want women to meet their own standards. And yes those men sleep with the club-girls when they want, and even date them. But that's only when she meets their standards! Women still respond to the same masculine traits they did 1000 years ago. and they will over 100 years. But an 6 or 7 girl at her tops will have men (9 or 10) going after her. But how comes allot of women are so negative towards alpha-hypothesis, and "don't like populair guys". Easy: because those guys will shag them, but wont keep them, because they can get better. Same goes for allot of frustrated men here. They know that when women wants to settle down they are good enough to profide them, but few months before they make face like they are sick, when you try to talk to them in a club. 1
CptSaveAho Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Go ahead and try out this new lifestyle and in the mean time I will look forward to your future threads of asking us why you are only able to attract the crazies and no one sane. works on anybody... contrary to your warped views on "dating" all women deep down are wired the same
Pyro Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 works on anybody... contrary to your warped views on "dating" all women deep down are wired the same Riiiiiight. I had no idea that you know every woman out there and can predict the future.
CptSaveAho Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Riiiiiight. I had no idea that you know every woman out there and can predict the future. human nature... dating is rigged against women future faking/players/bad boys/jerks/puas... etc ask any emotionally mature woman here... i have some 25 year old female friends that know the game is rigged against them... can't stop it thats why they lock guys down at that age if they are smart
Pyro Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 human nature... dating is rigged against women future faking/players/bad boys/jerks... etc ask any emotionally mature woman here... i have some 25 year old female friends that know the game is rigged against them... can't stop it What does 'the game' have to do with whether or not women enjoy drama when meeting a guy? Some women will be attracted to drama and some will keep their distance from a guy who shows signs of bringing drama around.
CptSaveAho Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 What does 'the game' have to do with whether or not women enjoy drama when meeting a guy? Some women will be attracted to drama and some will keep their distance from a guy who shows signs of bringing drama around. you dont understand you have to have drama in a relationship or a woman will get bored.... they will make it up out of thin air and then eventually find someone that will make it up with them and leave you... you have 25k posts on this forum and havent figured this out yet? read edgygirls posts, all drama... read eternal sunshines posts, all drama they need drama or their lives are incomplete one of my buddies said his dad use to go home and pick a fight with his wife so she will know he still loves her... its true
Pyro Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 you dont understand you have to have drama in a relationship or a woman will get bored.... they will make it up out of thin air and then eventually find someone that will make it up with them and leave you... you have 25k posts on this forum and havent figured this out yet? read edgygirls posts, all drama... read eternal sunshines posts, all drama they need drama or their lives are incomplete No you don't. You need some excitement in a successful relationship. Excitement is not always drama. The immature crowd may need drama to enjoy their time but sane healthy people find others way to enjoy their time rather than to purposely create drama. No offense but your buddies parents sound like real winners. 1
CptSaveAho Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 No you don't. You need some excitement in a successful relationship. Excitement is not always drama. The immature crowd may need drama to enjoy their time but sane healthy people find others way to enjoy their time rather than to purposely create drama. right says the guy with 25k posts.... i bet your happily married?
Pyro Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 right says the guy with 25k posts.... i bet your happily married? Yes I am. I am here for the friends whom I have made over my years here.
CptSaveAho Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/233685-question-men LOL pyro... you asked the same question...
KungFuJoe Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 you dont understand you have to have drama in a relationship or a woman will get bored.... they will make it up out of thin air and then eventually find someone that will make it up with them and leave you... you have 25k posts on this forum and havent figured this out yet? read edgygirls posts, all drama... read eternal sunshines posts, all drama they need drama or their lives are incomplete What's everyone's definition of drama, though? Seems to be a very vague term for something that holds so much "worth". In my book, drama is bad. Drama is causing **** that doesn't need to be caused. Example. My wife's cousin invited a friend of hers to a concert. Her friend didn't respond in a few days so she gave the ticket to my wife. The day of the concert, my wife's cousin's friend pops up and says "What time we going to the concert?". Her cousin didn't have the "guts" to tell her friend that she gave it to my wife and made up some lie about selling it on ebay or whatever. So they all go the concert, friend finds out my wife went with the extra ticket, gets mad cuz the cousin didn't tell her the truth, and long story short, they aren't friends anymore.
CptSaveAho Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 nice guys... sigh Im out not a single chick has said one thing against my drama = love just nice guys
Pyro Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/233685-question-men LOL pyro... you asked the same question... 2010....... I was already engaged at that time and FTR I had started that thread because so many guys at that time were starting threads about being a jerk and I wanted some clarity on what they meant by it. I have never once purposely been a jerk or purposely created drama and I survived.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I love how every trolls response to someone who disagrees with them is to call the guy a nice guy, like it's some kind of insult. Secondly, I question is said troll would actually smart off in real life if said nice guy was standing right in front of him.
Esoteric Elf Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 what if this guy has to first be a jerk before he can learn to be himself... This is too theoretical to comment on intelligently. What caveats dictate that he has to be a jerk before he can learn to be himself? 1
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 2010....... I was already engaged at that time and FTR I had started that thread because so many guys at that time were starting threads about being a jerk and I wanted some clarity on what they meant by it. I have never once purposely been a jerk or purposely created drama and I survived. I put some examples earlier in this thread. They are completely true. Being a jerk within itself will not earn women, but a good looking, suave jerk will beat out an awkward or blah good guy 9 out of 10 times.
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