edgygirl Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 You aren't judging their actions. You are judging how they dress. And why? What is the point? So you can feel superior? It's the same principle as women are "sluts", men are "players". Or that girls who dress provocatively can be used, but are not good for marriage. It's all about judging women as too easy, slutty, etc., but using them for their own good when it's suitable. OP - She has a great body and can show it? Good for her. While I admit I don't like guys posing shirtless in a mirror, we shouldn't be ashamed of our bodies. 1
KungFuJoe Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 If you got it, flaunt it! Let the haters hate!
Els Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I have a very simple solution for you guys who are somehow offended by women 'flaunting' their cleavage and bodies. Don't look. See, isn't the world all better now?
KungFuJoe Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I have a very simple solution for you guys who are somehow offended by women 'flaunting' their cleavage and bodies. Don't look. See, isn't the world all better now? I'm not offended. Do I still get to look?
Imajerk17 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) irc333, what site are you on? POF, in my experience, is horrible for having women who both (a) seem to have unrealistic expectations, and (b) who come across as way too cynical. Match is much better. Maybe there's something about the monthly fee that does a decent job screening for women who are more realistic and less guarded. I'll say it again though: If you truly live in an area where it really is slim pickings, maybe you have to move.... You might want to look in the mirror too though. You do a lot of complaining on here--writing thread after thread after thread that are all really the same, and that is NOT attractive to women. Edited January 14, 2013 by Imajerk17
Els Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I'm not offended. Do I still get to look? Sure, as long as you don't make a thread complaining about it!
TheBigQuestion Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I have a very simple solution for you guys who are somehow offended by women 'flaunting' their cleavage and bodies. Don't look. See, isn't the world all better now? I don't think the OP or any other poster is offended by women flaunting their cleavage and bodies. They are simply conveying what they see as inconsistent and/or contradictory behavior by a certain segment of women who do online dating. If a woman posts professional photographs of herself that are of a highly sexualized nature that only a few decades ago would have been considered to be in poor taste, if not downright lewd, why is she so surprised that she is getting lewd messages? Why complain about said messages on her profile while still using the same photographs? Despite the efforts of a few posters here to hold this thread up as an example of "putting down women," it is clearly nothing of the sort. It's a simple observation of a very specific phenomenon applying only to a certain type of woman, namely an attention whore. Not an exceptionally profound topic, but no more or less worthy of discussion than 90%+ of what gets posted here anyway. OP, I encountered plenty of folks like this during my limited run at online dating. They are attention whores who don't really have much going on upstairs, plain and simple. There's no reason to put your brain cells to waste by thinking about them.
KungFuJoe Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I'm just disappointed op didn't posts links. This thread most definitely did not deliver.
Els Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) I don't think the OP or any other poster is offended by women flaunting their cleavage and bodies. They are simply conveying what they see as inconsistent and/or contradictory behavior by a certain segment of women who do online dating. If a woman posts professional photographs of herself that are of a highly sexualized nature that only a few decades ago would have been considered to be in poor taste, if not downright lewd, why is she so surprised that she is getting lewd messages? Why complain about said messages on her profile while still using the same photographs? Despite the efforts of a few posters here to hold this thread up as an example of "putting down women," it is clearly nothing of the sort. It's a simple observation of a very specific phenomenon applying only to a certain type of woman, namely an attention whore. Not an exceptionally profound topic, but no more or less worthy of discussion than 90%+ of what gets posted here anyway. The OP and those 'other posters' here are displaying the exact sort of contradictory behavior that you are describing, by giving the 'attention whore' attention while complaining that she's doing it. If you find something silly, you're not going to be leafing through every single bit of it and clearly enjoying looking at it. Anyone who does that is as much a part of the dynamic as the 'flaunter'. Complaining about it then is just being hypocritical. But BRB, I'm going to go leaf through photos of topless guys with 6-packs at the beach, making innuendo about how great his ass is while simultaneously remarking about how surprising it is that he actually sounds intelligent and how he must be desperate to have those pictures up. :rolleyes: Oh, and those other guys in his photo who are dressed in baggy tees and shorts? They must be giving him the EVIL EYE since clearly all the women are just looking at him! Edited January 14, 2013 by Elswyth
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 It's the same principle as women are "sluts", men are "players". Or that girls who dress provocatively can be used, but are not good for marriage. It's all about judging women as too easy, slutty, etc., but using them for their own good when it's suitable. OP - She has a great body and can show it? Good for her. While I admit I don't like guys posing shirtless in a mirror, we shouldn't be ashamed of our bodies. I know. It's just so twisted. And it reeks of men that don't want to be responsible for their choices and how they behave while holding women accountable. Such as men that will spend all day long oggling hot women or going on the internet for porn yet complain about a woman on a dating site in a bikkini. Yeah, and the guys here KNOW what I am talking about.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I'm not offended. Do I still get to look? No. You are married.
TheBigQuestion Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 The OP and those 'other posters' here are displaying the exact sort of contradictory behavior that you are describing, by giving the 'attention whore' attention while complaining that she's doing it. If you find something silly, you're not going to be leafing through every single bit of it and clearly enjoying looking at it. Anyone who does that is as much a part of the dynamic as the 'flaunter'. Complaining about it then is just being hypocritical. But BRB, I'm going to go leaf through photos of topless guys with 6-packs at the beach, making innuendo about how great his ass is while simultaneously remarking about how surprising it is that he actually sounds intelligent and how he must be desperate to have those pictures up. :rolleyes: Oh, and those other guys in his photo who are dressed in baggy tees and shorts? They must be giving him the EVIL EYE since clearly all the women are just looking at him! Hey, I never said I understood irc333's ever-present fixation on the habits of women's online dating habits. I just said that I didn't really perceive anyone being offended by the photographs themselves, and pointed out that the topic arose from the women insisting on using the same photographs despite getting results they disliked. If something is broke in online dating (or anything else), if it frustrates you, you do something about it rather than complain about the attention you get from online bottom-feeding creeps. Complaining about the very thing that you insist on doing (presumably because it simultaneously provides you with an ego boost) is a strange thing to do indeed.
KungFuJoe Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 No. You are married. Aw...shucks! *kicks rocks 2
Els Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 If something is broke in online dating (or anything else), if it frustrates you, you do something about it rather than complain about the women whom you perceive as attention-whores. Complaining about the very thing that you insist on devouring copious amounts of (presumably because it simultaneously provides you with titillation) is a strange thing to do indeed. Fixed your quote to repeat the advice I gave the OP and the guys who agreed with him in the first place. 1
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 This is really a game about control. And the men that want to have it. They want to seperate women into groups to control their behavior. "Good women", women they want to be with, dress and cover up and don't let other men see them. This means he doesn't have to compete with other men. "Good women", have few sexual partners but are totally wild in bed "just" for him. Again, this means she doesn't have the pleasure and experience of many men that he has to compete with. "Bad women", read women they can't control, enjoy their bodies and their sexuality. But they are "bad" because how dare a woman enjoy showing it off even while he enjoys looking. Oh and then what happens when that man is out with his "good woman" that keeps her sexuality all buttoned up tight except when she is in the privacy of their bedroom with him, he is looking at the "bad woman" showing it off and justifying why he has to look to the "good woman". It's all so manipulative. Men want "good girls" but want to enjoy what they cal "bad girls" too. It's all about how certain men want to control women and not be accountable for their own actions. 1
TheBigQuestion Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Fixed your quote to repeat the advice I gave the OP and the guys who agreed with him in the first place. I agree. However, that doesn't make what I originally wrote any less correct.
Els Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I agree. However, that doesn't make what I originally wrote any less correct. I agree, and vice versa. I swear you get kicks out of this.
PinkSapphire Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 So, I am typically your baggy clothes wearing woman - mostly because nicer clothes are just so expensive and these ugly t-shirts were free! When I stare at the ladies at the gym or the race who wear skimpy clothes/show off their midriff, etc., I am thinking "Nice! She is hot!" and admiring. It's not an evil eye; women think women are hot, too, and we wanna look! I mean, hey, she is dressed in public like that, not just the locker room, so I feel I am allowed to admire. Obviously, she worked hard for it, and if this particular woman is older and still bangin'? Heck, I WANT to look, admire, adn hope to look like her when I am her age. It's not an "evil eye", guys. We just like to admire hot women like you all do. Okay, debate on. 1
TheBigQuestion Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I agree, and vice versa. I swear you get kicks out of this. Kicks? Nah. That's what the cocaine, hookers, and roller coasters are for. It's fun though.
Bristolius Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 This is really a game about control. And the men that want to have it. They want to seperate women into groups to control their behavior. "Good women", women they want to be with, dress and cover up and don't let other men see them. This means he doesn't have to compete with other men. "Good women", have few sexual partners but are totally wild in bed "just" for him. Again, this means she doesn't have the pleasure and experience of many men that he has to compete with. "Bad women", read women they can't control, enjoy their bodies and their sexuality. But they are "bad" because how dare a woman enjoy showing it off even while he enjoys looking. Oh and then what happens when that man is out with his "good woman" that keeps her sexuality all buttoned up tight except when she is in the privacy of their bedroom with him, he is looking at the "bad woman" showing it off and justifying why he has to look to the "good woman". It's all so manipulative. Men want "good girls" but want to enjoy what they cal "bad girls" too. It's all about how certain men want to control women and not be accountable for their own actions. When I see a woman wearing revealing clothes, I might think she looks good or not. I wouldn't think badly of her and I would not say anything lewd. I might also feel uncomfortable. Because of past experience I'd predict that she may not want me to look. She might get angry if I look because, while she might want to be seen as good looking, she might also want to control who notices.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 When I see a woman wearing revealing clothes, I might think she looks good or not. I wouldn't think badly of her and I would not say anything lewd. I might also feel uncomfortable. Because of past experience I'd predict that she may not want me to look. She might get angry if I look because, while she might want to be seen as good looking, she might also want to control who notices. Yeah, unfortunetly, that's true. Some women do want to be able to control who notices. And that's not cool. If she is going to wear those clothes, she should be prepared for people to look. But she doesn't deserve their condemnation just the same either.
Author irc333 Posted January 14, 2013 Author Posted January 14, 2013 I might also feel uncomfortable. Because of past experience I'd predict that she may not want me to look. She might get angry if I look because, while she might want to be seen as good looking, she might also want to control who notices. Right, considering how women can be these days, esp. the one in question, it might be some "test" of hers to see if you'd be "gentlemanly" enough to keep the innuendos or double entendres to yourself.
Author irc333 Posted January 14, 2013 Author Posted January 14, 2013 Had to post this one...check out her T Shirt! It's a spin on the actual product. Yeah I can see her inbox fillin' on that alone. lol Some more eye candy
MrNate 2.0 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I wasted my time scrolling through four pages and not a single picture was posted. I'm out of here.
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