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A while after I was released into the single life last year...

Of course I had to go through a phase of rebound sex in order to be on equal terms with the girl who had just basically broken my heart for the first time... because I knew she would be doing the same.

 

I somehow came into contact with an old friend of mine... 3 bootycalls later... she starts talking about old feelings and asking me if I like her, to cut a long story short I explained my situation and let her down gently.

 

My point is I lay back thinking, "did I just friend zone this girl?" I did.

 

Since breaking up with my first love and only being 21 I've taken interest in learning about relationships and dating, the way things work and stuff...

I started to think about guys being friend zoned, constantly whining about not getting any pussy and being confused why guys like me don't have the same problem.

 

They know the philosophies of why this happens, they know that their turtle-neck no-brand sweater, hippy hairstyle and nice guy personality doesn't attract women, and they know that my black Audi A4, 6pack abs and mysterious personality makes women leak from the flower...

 

So why keep whining about it?

You know the problem, it won't fix itself,

 

You either wait for the girl who will appreciate you pushing roses and chocolates in their face, sending them sissy text messages every hour and confessing your puppy-eye'd love for them at every given chance... because eventually you will find her, I think they do exist... somewhere.

 

Or you can change yourself, grow some balls and realize that looking like Leonard Hofstadter from the big bang theory isn't going to do it for you, and if you do try to change... be sure not to turn into a Howard Wolowitz in the process...

 

My philosophy is it's your appearance and aura in general which molds your attitude and personality, it changes the way you interact with women, if you know that you're stylish and you look good, you'll feel stylish and look good... that boosts your confidence and general attitude...

Giving you a sense of you can have have her if you want her, but she's just an option like the rest...

Rather than thinking she's out of your league and don't stand a chance.

 

Only girls who think you are not good enough or not what they want, and think they are out of your league can friend zone you, but you chose that league, nobody put you there.

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Others may find your post a bit brash, but I can relate totally.

 

I was a pitiful little pup in junior high. I was infatuated with a young lady who had become my best friend. We "dated" a while, but I was too scared to make a serious move in fear of being rejected, and she moved on to a dude who was a doer instead of a thinker. She stayed friends with me for years, and I pined away heartbroken and hoping she'd see "what was right in front of her." In recent years, she actually told me she wanted to do everything the whole time but was waiting for me to make the move. Four years of awkward torment for nothing. Churchill was right.

 

Well my friend, I eventually took initiative and decided to tally up my own score. Once I had some success, I was a different person. It's night and day. I joined the Marine Corps, got in great shape, decided I was good as anyone, and I haven't been confused as a lady's girlfriend ever since.

 

I think many men view women as a superior species, and this is a mistake. The woman is an equal species. If you bow to her, then she'll treat you like a servant. If you look her in the eye, even if she doesn't fall in love with you, she'll at least respect you.

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Sorry OP but this whole post has the sound of just trying to rub your ego.

If you really had no problems with girls you would not need to write this. Go fix your insecurities and then come back, when you will not depend on your ego to get some self gratification.

 

And yes, pointing out that your Audi A4 makes girls leak, is a sign of maturity and great personality....... I wonder who paid for that car...

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I'm a bit confused by your post. Are you saying that owning a nice car attracts nice girls? Well, it doesn't. Are you saying taking care of your body and having pride in yourself attracts nice girls? Well, it does! Money, nice cars, brand names wont take a man out of the friend zone (I just dumped a multi millionaire last year because he was too into himself). What takes you out of the friend zone is chemistry. If a girl feels chemistry, she will want you as more than a friend.

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I always kind of chortle inside when I hear about a guy flaunting his fancy ride and how it brings the ladies. I have had nice cars before. But to tell you the truth I get more comments from the ladies about my minivan than any other vehicle. One girl even said "Hey this is great a man that can roll around in a minivan I can know for sure is not compensating for anything"

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Sorry OP but this whole post has the sound of just trying to rub your ego.

 

Of course it's a hypothetical ego trip...

But it's packed with elements of truth.

 

I have issues with dating, I'm going through a pretty hard issue with the girl I'm dating at the moment... but at least I'm actually dating and have never had a problem doing it...

 

I'm talking about the guys who can't even get a date, and are constantly being friend zoned.

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Why is this turning into a conversation about my car?

 

The point is not having the nice car... the point of the kind of guy who drives that nice car.

 

A car says a lot about the man driving it, in the same way shoes say a lot about the man wearing them.

What also says a lot about a man is the way he treats his dog.

 

A sissy nice guy lets a dog lick his face and climb on the couches.

A "real man" disciplines his dog and let's it know who the master is.

 

A man wearing D&G's on his feet is a stylish man with good taste.

A man wearing hush puppies is usually a... well... "a Leonard from the big bang theory type of guy haha"

 

A man driving a black Audi A4 with leather seats and tinted windows... is again a stylish man with classy taste.

A man driving a pink Fiat 500 convertible.. well... he's probably gay lol

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Dude it really wasn't an attack on your car. Just saying women really do not give a **** about what kind of car you drive. A lot just care that you DO have a car. Some do care about what kind of car you drive. . . those are generally the women I avoid.

 

But you are right I suppose that a car DOES tell a lot about the man driving it. Stylish man and classy taste is not what I read though. I read "I drive my car because its a status symbol and I am projecting something to cover up an insecurity". Since the next line mentions a hasty generalization about Fiat owners being gay it is reasonable to say that you are projecting heterosexuality to compensate for latent homosexual insecurities.

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I read "I drive my car because its a status symbol and I am projecting something to cover up an insecurity". Since the next line mentions a hasty generalization about Fiat owners being gay it is reasonable to say that you are projecting heterosexuality to compensate for latent homosexual insecurities.

 

Oh yeah I see where you're coming from...

just like the way you're coming into this thread desperately searching for flaws in what I have written and indirectly insulting me.

 

Claiming that driving a nice car is only to cover up insecurities..?

 

So really you're kind of exposing your own insecurities by so strongly opposing what I have written and being so offended by it that you resort to insulting me... which judging by your own theories could only suggest... you're insecure about the fact that you can't get any pussy, and can't afford to drive a nice car...

 

Kind of works both ways doesn't it.

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Why is this turning into a conversation about my car?

 

The point is not having the nice car... the point of the kind of guy who drives that nice car.

 

A car says a lot about the man driving it, in the same way shoes say a lot about the man wearing them.

What also says a lot about a man is the way he treats his dog.

 

A sissy nice guy lets a dog lick his face and climb on the couches.

A "real man" disciplines his dog and let's it know who the master is.

 

A man wearing D&G's on his feet is a stylish man with good taste.

A man wearing hush puppies is usually a... well... "a Leonard from the big bang theory type of guy haha"

 

A man driving a black Audi A4 with leather seats and tinted windows... is again a stylish man with classy taste.

A man driving a pink Fiat 500 convertible.. well... he's probably gay lol

 

Wow, I couldn't agree with you less....coming from a woman ( and believe me, I'm all woman, the kind most guys are afraid to ask out) I think stuff is just stuff, and I like a guy who's nice to his dog. To me, it doesn't matter what kind of car he drives, but does he have a big u-know-what? (Sorry, but thats important to me) I don't care what he's wearing, but is he strong, athletic, bright, insightful....those are what I look for. Cause when the clothes come off, and we are lying there just me and him, it doesn't matter what he owns, it's who he is.

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What also says a lot about a man is the way he treats his dog.

 

A sissy nice guy lets a dog lick his face and climb on the couches.

A "real man" disciplines his dog and let's it know who the master is.

 

 

 

This sissy guy would certainly save his dog first if you were both drowning in a pool.

 

Stop watching so much television. Come back and read the nonsense you've posted when you have a clue about life. The shoes I'm wearing say nothing about me, unless of course I have my foot up your ass.

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Cause when the clothes come off, and we are lying there just me and him, it doesn't matter what he owns, it's who he is.

 

Yeah right, you just so eloquently stated, he better have a big Willy. Pot meet kettle.

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Yeah right, you just so eloquently stated, he better have a big Willy. Pot meet kettle.

 

Im not sure what you mean. A sexy physique is part of who he is, not what he owns. That was my point. Im sorry if it offends you, but its important to many of us women to be with a satisfying lover.

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Im not sure what you mean. A sexy physique is part of who he is, not what he owns. That was my point. Im sorry if it offends you, but its important to many of us women to be with a satisfying lover.

 

Doesn't offend me at the least. Your post is riddled with hypocrisy, that's what I mean. No need to be sorry, you're entitle to prefer men with a large penis.

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Im sorry if it offends you, but its important to many of us women to be with a satisfying lover.

 

From a neutral perspective, as in terms of...

 

Schlong, schledium and shlort, I consider myself schledium... average size penis.

 

But for some reason, reading what you said reminded me of something Chris Rock once said on twitter, it went something along the lines of...

 

I'm tired of hearing women talk about they need a man with a bigger d!ck and more money, no, bitch what you really need is a tighter pussy and a job!

 

:laugh:

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Doesn't offend me at the least. Your post is riddled with hypocrisy, that's what I mean. No need to be sorry, you're entitle to prefer men with a large penis.

 

Please point out the hypocracy, seriously, im not sure what you are getting at. I mean the point of being a part of a community like this is to educate, inform, support and enlighten, not just point out that you dont agree with somones argument, but why. So please expand on your point with examples.

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From a neutral perspective, as in terms of...

 

Schlong, schledium and shlort, I consider myself schledium... average size penis.

 

But for some reason, reading what you said reminded me of something Chris Rock once said on twitter, it went something along the lines of...

 

 

 

:laugh:

 

Well good for you. :-) Everyone is different, and just to attempt to circle back around to your original topic, Im not saying a man needs to have to be huge, but Ive been with a really small one, i mean medically small, and I tried to work with it, see past it, but I just couldnt and I had to put him in the friendzone. And not only was he wealthy with a nice car, he was a local celebrity sportscaster, but those things really dont matter when it comes to being in a relationship.

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Oh yeah I see where you're coming from...

just like the way you're coming into this thread desperately searching for flaws in what I have written and indirectly insulting me.

 

Claiming that driving a nice car is only to cover up insecurities..?

 

So really you're kind of exposing your own insecurities by so strongly opposing what I have written and being so offended by it that you resort to insulting me... which judging by your own theories could only suggest... you're insecure about the fact that you can't get any pussy, and can't afford to drive a nice car...

 

Kind of works both ways doesn't it.

 

Why so defensive Prada? I was not attacking you. It is clear I was only attacking your perception that your car defines class. Maybe stylishness I will give you that one. I am not saying you are insecure. I am saying your perception is generally taken as that of insecurity.

 

I am not offended in the least. Just trying to help you out. You seem a little confused. My car is irrelevant. I am not the one on an anonymous internet forum bragging about what kind of car I am driving. You car does not define class. Your car does not even define wealth. In my area there are plenty of douchebags making less than 30k a year leasing BMWs to project worth, but they live in a shack of an apartment eat ramen noodles and have no health insurance.

 

Furthermore, I do not need to brag about how much tail I am getting on an internet forum. You seem to have mistaken me for someone who gave a **** what some unknown behind a moniker of "Prada_class" thinks of me.

 

you're insecure about the fact that you can't get any pussy, and can't afford to drive a nice car...

 

That is not class. You have no class. That is the opposite of class regardless of what car you drive.

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I was rooting hard for April and thought she made some good points, until she mentioned the penis size thing. Consider me part of the group that sees hypocrisy in that.

 

A man is not judged by his car or his penis size--but by his character. His personality. Both sexes are.

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I'll toss my thoughts on this "friendzone" thing since it seems to be brought up a lot in different contexts.

 

You are "friendzoned" if you are being led on by someone else when that person has no intentions of making something happen romantically. If you get rejected, it's NOT being friendzoned (provided you actually make an attempt). If you still chase after rejection, that's NOT being friendzoned.

 

Everyone is different on how they take rejection. Personally, I believe that attraction is automatic and subconscious - there is *nothing* you can do to make that person feel attracted - at least, for the long-term. If you want flings, that's one thing.

 

I really wish that term wasn't invented because it's overused and used the wrong way. Also, it applies to both guys and girls.

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Why so defensive Prada?

 

All I did was give you a taste of your own medicine and show you that it works both ways...

 

And you continue to take indirect jabs at me and try to play innocent by claiming your insults are "directed at my perceptions" on the subject and are "not directed at me"...

 

Maybe you're offended at the Leonard from the big bang theory thing... or that I think hushpuppies are for losers,

 

Whatever it is, it's just your opinion...

 

Important part:

 

Just like I gave my opinion in the OP,

I've heard a lot of guys complaining about being friend zoned, I picked up on certain characteristics and traits of those guys... I compared them to my own as a person who has never really been friend zoned by a girl...

The differences I found were differences I had written in my OP.

 

And just for the record - don't listen to the women who come in here telling you that I'm wrong,

If you ASK a young women what she wants in a man, she'll say "love, romance, hold hands and take windy walks" blablabla... (and they may be true, as a long term goal)

 

But for the vast majority of these young women, what really makes them weak at the knees is a man with the "dark triad" traits, it might sound weird if you've never heard of it, but just do a little research and you'll understand.

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I was rooting hard for April and thought she made some good points, until she mentioned the penis size thing. Consider me part of the group that sees hypocrisy in that.

 

A man is not judged by his car or his penis size--but by his character. His personality. Both sexes are.

 

I don't understand how you see my point as hypocritical. Maybe you find it distasteful, however how am I being inconsistent when I say it's important to me that a man is smart, sexy, athletic, insightful and a satisfying lover (for my standards). I don't care what he owns, or what he wears, it's how he makes me feel. That's a rephrase of the same thing I said previously. Please, I really do want to understand what you mean.

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I don't understand how you see my point as hypocritical. Maybe you find it distasteful, however how am I being inconsistent when I say it's important to me that a man is smart, sexy, athletic, insightful and a satisfying lover (for my standards). I don't care what he owns, or what he wears, it's how he makes me feel. That's a rephrase of the same thing I said previously. Please, I really do want to understand what you mean.

 

Because you were rejecting the notion of a guy having money/a nice car being important to you but in the same breath saying "does he have a big you know what? (sorry but that's important to me)"

 

You just replaced a material item with a physical one. It comes across as you feeling that unless a man had a certain penis size, you couldn't date him. That comes off as shallow. The fact that you felt you had to semi-apologize for it in brackets means you know it's not a popular stance to have.

 

If a man said "does she have a big pair of you know whats? that's important to me", he'd get the same flack for it that you are.

 

I'm with you on everything else you said, but replacing material desires with one specific body part and it's size is not much better.

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Because you were rejecting the notion of a guy having money/a nice car being important to you but in the same breath saying "does he have a big you know what? (sorry but that's important to me)"

 

You just replaced a material item with a physical one. It comes across as you feeling that unless a man had a certain penis size, you couldn't date him. That comes off as shallow. The fact that you felt you had to semi-apologize for it in brackets means you know it's not a popular stance to have.

 

If a man said "does she have a big pair of you know whats? that's important to me", he'd get the same flack for it that you are.

 

I'm with you on everything else you said, but replacing material desires with one specific body part and it's size is not much better.

 

Thank you for expanding on your point. The reason I apologized when I said what I said was because I know most guys don't want to hear that. Just like most women don't want to hear that a man would prefer a woman with a small waist, and nice voluptuous features. But it's part of the animalistic desire that exists whether we like it or not.

 

I know people would like to believe that all it takes is a kind soul and a good personality to attract the woman of your choice, but its simply not true. However back to the point of my post, if the OP wanted to know what a woman is really thinking, well.....it's not your car thats gonna make me want you, or your clothes; it's what you have to offer as a man, and sexuality is a big part of that. (For me)..

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and can't afford to drive a nice car...

 

 

Because you bought yours with your own blood and sweat from having worked so hard and saved so diligently, right?

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