TouchedByViolet Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I can relate to the invisible man. To over come this I have had to meet more women and get out more. Essentially play the numbers game of meeting enough women to finally find one that is interested.
KungFuJoe Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 You guys don't know what you're talking about. I got these two girls who just will NOT leave me alone! All day long all I hear is: "Daddy, can you get me some orange juice?" "Daddy, I'm hungry" "Daddy, can you buy me that [insert latest toy name]?" "Daddy, can you play Minecraft with me?" <- ok this one is not too bad. Man, sometimes I wish *I* was invisible!
trevzilla Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 You guys don't know what you're talking about. I got these two girls who just will NOT leave me alone! All day long all I hear is: "Daddy, can you get me some orange juice?" "Daddy, I'm hungry" "Daddy, can you buy me that [insert latest toy name]?" "Daddy, can you play Minecraft with me?" <- ok this one is not too bad. Man, sometimes I wish *I* was invisible! Haha, funny. I wish I had children.
carhill Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 A man is rarely invisible to someone who wants something, though want is necessarily a transient state.
xxoo Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I'm not quite understanding this. If men are complaining about being rejected by average women, surely they've actually gone after them and been rejected, no? Or are you trying to say that a man once rejected should keep driving to the hole in hopes that she'll come around. I'm saying men should go after women who inspire them to try really hard to impress her. The idea that a man shouldn't have to do such-and-such to attract a woman because they women aren't so great themselves confounds me. Go after a woman you think is worth the effort.
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I'm saying men should go after women who inspire them to try really hard to impress her. The idea that a man shouldn't have to do such-and-such to attract a woman because they women aren't so great themselves confounds me. Go after a woman you think is worth the effort. The idea that a woman would turn a guy down in hopes that he will come chasing after her harder confounds me even more.
KungFuJoe Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 The idea that a woman would turn a guy down in hopes that he will come chasing after her harder confounds me even more. Does anyone even do this anymore? Ladies, please chime in. Have ANY of you ever turned down or played hard to get with a guy you were REALLY into?
Lonely Ronin Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Does anyone even do this anymore? Ladies, please chime in. Have ANY of you ever turned down or played hard to get with a guy you were REALLY into? I'm a guy, but it's happened to me a lot. I've had one or two women actually get pissed off afterwards that i didn't chase them down.
KungFuJoe Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I'm a guy, but it's happened to me a lot. I've had one or two women actually get pissed off afterwards that i didn't chase them down. Chase them down? Elaborate. I'm talking you're actively dating someone (not just friends) and you are obvious with your feelings for them and they give you the cold shoulder, act indifferent, you go your own way, and they pop up later in your life and tell you they wanted you all along?
PJKino Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I'm saying men should go after women who inspire them to try really hard to impress her. On a cold approach how is a women supposed to "inspire us" before we barely know them? Women say all the time dont put them on a pedestal yet youre saying do it
xxoo Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 The idea that a woman would turn a guy down in hopes that he will come chasing after her harder confounds me even more. She's not interested, because he's not really interested. It's not some sort of game. It's a clue to how women work. You've got to shift yourself out of the neutral position in her mind.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Chase them down? Elaborate. I'm talking you're actively dating someone (not just friends) and you are obvious with your feelings for them and they give you the cold shoulder, act indifferent, you go your own way, and they pop up later in your life and tell you they wanted you all along? I've had exactly this happen. Been dating someone and then given the cold shoulder or strait up dumped. When dumped i'm like, OK it's your decision have a good life. I've run into said women weeks months or even a year or more later, and had said women express that they had hoped I would chase them down, and not taken no for an answer.
KungFuJoe Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I've had exactly this happen. Been dating someone and then given the cold shoulder or strait up dumped. When dumped i'm like, OK it's your decision have a good life. I've run into said women weeks months or even a year or more later, and had said women express that they had hoped I would chase them down, and not taken no for an answer. But did they just have a change of heart or were they actually HOPING that their actions would make you want them more? I'm trying to see the thought processes here.
xxoo Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 On a cold approach how is a women supposed to "inspire us" before we barely know them? Women say all the time dont put them on a pedestal yet youre saying do it I don't understand cold approach. Most people still meet their partners through social connections. Not having social connections puts a person at significant disadvantage when dating.
Bristolius Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 If you're really invisible, just start robbing people. Force them to hand over their cash. If the only description they can give is, "some below average, unattractive guy." the police will never catch you. If you're extremely unimpressive, they won't even remember being robbed. You can hit the same person over and over.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 But did they just have a change of heart or were they actually HOPING that their actions would make you want them more? I'm trying to see the thought processes here. I'd say roughly half thought their actions would make me want them more.
PJKino Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I don't understand cold approach. Most people still meet their partners through social connections. Not having social connections puts a person at significant disadvantage when dating. I dont have any single women in my social circle at all..Even friends wives all their friends are in relationships
SteveC80 Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 On a cold approach how is a women supposed to "inspire us" before we barely know them? Women say all the time dont put them on a pedestal yet youre saying do it Good lookignguys dont have ot put women on a pedestal becasue women put thme on a pedestal. Avergae and unattractive men have to put women on a pedestal and make her feel like shes the hottest thing ever for them to get laid
TheZebra Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Now that's something I'm good at, it doesn't make women attracted to me, but conversations with me often aren't boring. But sparking a conversation can be difficult as women often don't want to be bothered if you are approaching a random girl in public. Though sometimes my definition of exciting and her definition exciting don't match, like this one time I'm at a restaurant with this girl, and we were talking about interests and I told her I have an interest in computer programming so I'm learning C++ and I give her some information on software development, and she proceeds to roll her eyes. A couple of things here: 1) Not all random women in public are open to talking to random guys. Most of the time if I'm reading a book on the subway, or getting my groceries at the supermarket, I don't want to be approached. It's my 'me' time. Learn from body language which women look open to approach and which don't. If you do approach and try speaking, pay attention to her body language to make sure she is receptive and not repulsed. If she seems hesitant, leave. 2) Oh no, the TMI problem. Never go into detail about something you do (whether it's financing, programming, construction, porn, whatever) unless the other person seems interested enough in it to ask more questions. For example, I like video games. One time the guy I'm into asked me what I did over the weekend and I simply said 'oh I got a new video game'. He asked me what it was, I just told him the name. Then he asked what the game was like and I went into a brief explanation of the story/gameplay. Basically, I waited for him to show interest in it (and me) before telling him all about the game. Remember, dates aren't job interviews. In a job interview it's encouraged to go into detail rather than just answering 'yes' or 'no', but if you're on a date, sometimes less is more.
Necris Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I dont have any single women in my social circle at all..Even friends wives all their friends are in relationships I'm in a similar situation seeing as how I have a small social circle with very few women, and of the women that are there they are unavailable, so I have to cold approach and that works terribly. Guess I need to think of a way to expand my social circle unfortunately alot of the activities I like are guy or solo activites that very few women are interested in.
KungFuJoe Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I'd say roughly half thought their actions would make me want them more. Half?? How many are we talking about here? I haven't dated all that much but damn, I just find it hard to imagine that there are women that think like this. How old are/were you when this was happening? I've had ONE girl try to play hard to get, but it wasn't because she was trying to get me to chase her it was because she thought I was a player (which was utterly ridiculous) and wasn't sure what my intentions were.
xxoo Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I dont have any single women in my social circle at all..Even friends wives all their friends are in relationships So expand it. Take a class, join a club...make more friends. There is a big difference between making an effort to impress a women you are sincerely interested in and putting her on a pedestal. You're interested. Really interested. So you boldly make your move, and risk rejection. I wonder if guys who fear rejection by the woman they really want go for the women they don't really want. Of course that doesn't work, because you don't really want her. She can tell. No risk, no reward!
Lonely Ronin Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Half?? How many are we talking about here? I haven't dated all that much but damn, I just find it hard to imagine that there are women that think like this. How old are/were you when this was happening? I've had ONE girl try to play hard to get, but it wasn't because she was trying to get me to chase her it was because she thought I was a player (which was utterly ridiculous) and wasn't sure what my intentions were. I'm early 30's, and have been dating since my mid teens. I'd say some where between around a dozen women. The last time this happened was in the spring. We didn't talk for a month, and then I started getting a few texts a week, and then phone calls. To be fair, I think part of the issue is I appear very even keeled. it takes a lot to make me appear really excited, upset, depressed angry etc, while internally I might be all butterflies, or a raging inferno. Thus, I think a lot of them did it to see how interested I was. It's always been women that I have been dating for a while, or are verging on being in a relationship with.
KungFuJoe Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I'm early 30's, and have been dating since my mid teens. I'd say some where between around a dozen women. The last time this happened was in the spring. We didn't talk for a month, and then I started getting a few texts a week, and then phone calls. To be fair, I think part of the issue is I appear very even keeled. it takes a lot to make me appear really excited, upset, depressed angry etc, while internally I might be all butterflies, or a raging inferno. Thus, I think a lot of them did it to see how interested I was. It's always been women that I have been dating for a while, or are verging on being in a relationship with. I don't know if your examples "count". If you're ALREADY dating or close to a relationship, how is that playing hard to get? When I think "playing hard to get" I think you're not even dating or maybe BARELY going out, etc.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 I don't know if your examples "count". If you're ALREADY dating or close to a relationship, how is that playing hard to get? When I think "playing hard to get" I think you're not even dating or maybe BARELY going out, etc. I think it's the same thing because playing hard to get is just a tactic to see how interested the guy really is. Now you could sat mine don't count because I'm harder to read, but the women in question still used the tactic to try and find out.
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