Guys can't control themselves when they're alone with a drunk girl?

[runningfar]

I think he was buzzed but still sober enough to take care of me. I can't think of him as a bad person because he was in fact very sweet and gentle to me the whole while. It just shocks me that he would even think of taking it further. This has really made me re-think how I should guard myself better.

 

I think that is good...

For your guy, he thought of it cuz buzzed but stopped himself.. Don't think he is a bad guy... Talk to him if you feel the need to clear the air but I don't think you need to

[GorillaTheater]

I was drunk when I proposed to my wife, and she was drunk when she accepted. I wonder how "consent" comes into play in that scenario.

[runningfar]

I was drunk when I proposed to my wife, and she was drunk when she accepted. I wonder how "consent" comes into play in that scenario.

 

You can take that back and not go through with it.

 

If you are both drunk when married it can be annulled. And other contracts. Drunk is considered inability to consent.

[GorillaTheater]

You can take that back and not go through with it.

 

If you are both drunk when married it can be annulled. And other contracts. Drunk is considered inability to consent.

 

Well, after 29 years, I imagine the clock has run on the statute of limitations. Laches probably wouldn't be much help, either.

[runningfar]

Well, after 29 years, I imagine the clock has run on the statute of limitations. Laches probably wouldn't be much help, either.

 

 

Haha my point is you haven't been drunk that whole time. I hope. It's not the same as sex.

[Radu]

See what i mean guys, look at GT ... he's been paying for it for 29yrs.

[chucksagent]

Greznog made a good point...

 

Why does the Women's Lib movement come to a screeching halt when it involves picking up the tab/check and drunk decision making??? Lol.

 

A man and women get drunk together and the girl does something she regrets and it's ALWAYS the man's fault.

 

Now, in this situation, if the OP was out cold, well then obviously that's just TOTALLY wrong...but situations are all different and you see this sort of thing a LOT today. You NEVER hear of a man crying about a woman taking advantage of him because he is drunk. If men and women are equals, why is it that women never take advantage of men? Are there no evil/bad women out there?

 

Even the situation with the Bengals Cheerleader who was a teacher...She had sex with her underage student and is getting a REALITY SHOW DEAL out of it. If that was some dude having sex with a minor, he'd be labeled a pervert and locked up in jail. Sure as heck wouldn't be getting rich out of it.

[crude]

 

Even the situation with the Bengals Cheerleader who was a teacher...She had sex with her underage student and is getting a REALITY SHOW DEAL out of it. If that was some dude having sex with a minor, he'd be labeled a pervert and locked up in jail. Sure as heck wouldn't be getting rich out of it.

Feminists aren't the ones giving her the show, men are. Feminists aren't saying where were the cheerleaders when I was underage, men are. Feminists want her in jail, it's men who don't.

[carhill]

The purported reality TV show, now being reported by some outlets as false, was reportedly offered to Ms. Jones by the producers of Jersey Shore, who appear to be led by a very mixed group, gender-wise:

 

Charlie Newton .... senior supervising producer / co-executive producer / ... (69 episodes, 2009-2012)

SallyAnn Salsano .... executive producer (67 episodes, 2009-2012)

Sean Hogan .... segment producer / field producer (58 episodes, 2009-2012)

Sheonna Mix .... producer / senior producer / ... (45 episodes, 2009-2012)

Jacob Walker .... senior story producer (37 episodes, 2009-2011)

Jacquelyn French .... executive producer (33 episodes, 2009-2012)

 

This mitigates the assertion that, at least in the realm of TV, it's men only who are promoting this activity for commercial publication and profit. It's unknown what the gender mix in the criminal and civil justice system is in this specific case but common sense indicates it is not solely the purview of males.

 

IMO, it's such issues where the historical reputation of males being the penetrators and aggressors, roles to this day still supported and validated by women, cause men pain and grief, to the extent they allow it. The solution is to care less. Do the right thing, the honorable thing, and own it. If a man fees sexual with a woman who is inebriated, even if she is sexually aggressive, make a decision on that dynamic and own it. Each decision has consequences, for both parties. Each party owns their own 'stuff', all the way from that first drink to the end of the encounter, wherever it goes.

[ASG]

 

Which is another point. I hate women that have no control of themselves to the point where they are having sex or doing things with guys, that they never would have done if they were sober. I had two girlfriends that I was very serious with cheat on me because they got drunk. One of them actually thought it was no big deal because she was drunk and she wouldn't have done it otherwise, so it wasn't really cheating, it was just being drunk.

 

I get drunk too, I don't do things I wouldn't do if I was sober. I am just somewhat louder and laugh a lot more is all. I don't understand people that get drunk and become someone else. Women seem to do that a lot. I like getting drunk with women I am getting to know, not because I want to take advantage of them, but so I can see how they behave when drunk. Some women become total sluts and are easily "corruptible". I always feel like I found a diamond in a dark cave full of coal when I meet a girl that is still herself when drunk and maintains control.

 

See... this is where you're wrong. People don't change when drunk. When you see people who do, it's just because they're hiding who they are when sober!

 

I've had many a drunken one night stand. Sometimes I've regretted it in the morning. Not because I wouldn't sleep with THAT person if I was sober, just because I think it would have been a better decision NOT to.

 

Someone who cheats while drunk would still cheat while sober, but is trying really hard not to.

 

I don't change when I'm drunk, but I do have a more "ahhh **** it, you only live once" attitude, as in I think less about consequences and about whether doing this or that is a good or bad idea. But I wouldn't do anything that was against who I am.

 

 

As for the OP... The guy may not have FEELINGS for you, but may find you attractive. Also, you say you MADE OUT. That for me means you kissed back. And he stopped after that, probably realizing you were too far gone to do anything else with consent.

 

So yeah, he was a bit douche baggy, but maybe he wasn't aware of how far gone you were. He did stop before anything serious happened though..

[phineas]

I'm not on some self-destruction agenda, it was just a night of fun and things got out of control. I really didn't know he would act like that, I honestly believed I would be safe with him. Now I know better. Even the nicest ones are dangerous. ALL MEN are dangerous. (That goes for guys vs. girls too)

 

For your information, I'm not blaming the guy for taking me to a hotel and putting the moves. He may not be my best friend, but he is a very good friend to me and I know him enough to trust he will not do me harm, which he didn't. So in this awkward situation, I'm not playing the victim, he should have known better, but I was the one who believed he would be completely platonic to me.

 

I'm not labeling MEN dangerous, I'm saying it goes the other way around too. A girl can lure a man to spend the night with her and then accuse him of rape. Either way people should be careful. Even the nicest ones (guy or girl) could give it up to lust or desire.

 

I think I'm just shocked that alcohol and lust can bring people to this situation. I wonder what would it be like to meet him again.

 

okay then.

carry on.

[Radu]

The purported reality TV show, now being reported by some outlets as false, was reportedly offered to Ms. Jones by the producers of Jersey Shore, who appear to be led by a very mixed group, gender-wise:

 

Charlie Newton .... senior supervising producer / co-executive producer / ... (69 episodes, 2009-2012)

SallyAnn Salsano .... executive producer (67 episodes, 2009-2012)

Sean Hogan .... segment producer / field producer (58 episodes, 2009-2012)

Sheonna Mix .... producer / senior producer / ... (45 episodes, 2009-2012)

Jacob Walker .... senior story producer (37 episodes, 2009-2011)

Jacquelyn French .... executive producer (33 episodes, 2009-2012)

 

This mitigates the assertion that, at least in the realm of TV, it's men only who are promoting this activity for commercial publication and profit. It's unknown what the gender mix in the criminal and civil justice system is in this specific case but common sense indicates it is not solely the purview of males.

 

IMO, it's such issues where the historical reputation of males being the penetrators and aggressors, roles to this day still supported and validated by women, cause men pain and grief, to the extent they allow it. The solution is to care less. Do the right thing, the honorable thing, and own it. If a man fees sexual with a woman who is inebriated, even if she is sexually aggressive, make a decision on that dynamic and own it. Each decision has consequences, for both parties. Each party owns their own 'stuff', all the way from that first drink to the end of the encounter, wherever it goes.

 

Reality shows of this kind [Jersey Shore] are not watched by men, but by women.

When Lorena Bobbit cut her husband's dick off [life threatening], he went through a huge legal battle, incurred great medical expenses, and in the end she got off free. Feminists cheered her on.

When 1yr ago that California woman drugged her husband, cut off his dick, threw it in the trash compactor she was hailed as a martyr; women in the media writing for major outlets hailed their 'opressed' sister.

 

carhil, i don't live in the US so i look into your media from a 'outside' pov ... your media is heavily skewed to favor white women.

If there is a competition in air time between a white woman and a woman from an ethnicity [african-american], you can bet your sweet ass the media will give more attention to the white one [an accepted fact btw].

Crimes against men do not seem to get as much air time and when they do, you have the NOW backed brain-washed feminists jumping up and down and making a ruckus.

I don't think this is a conspiracy, they are just dogs who learned how to bark to a certain enemy ... too bad there's lots of them and well, let's just say that i've learned never to cross a woman when there is 'the pack' of sisters supporting her.

[allenpo123]

okay then.

carry on.

 

Oh boy, I'm so messed up

[TakeItEasy]

Depends if they're actually your friend or not.

I have a guy friend who I was extremely drunk and cracked onto once, I have no feelings for the guy, I'm sure of that as we've been just friends for 8 years and have helped each other through thick and thin.

I only did it once and that was a very long time ago, about two years into our friendship.

I wouldn't leave him alone, telling him what I wanted to do to him, I was being a right skank.

Quite putrid now I look back on it.

Hahaha, anyway he wouldn't have a bar of it.

He looked after me, took me home, put me to bed and left.

Then the next day we laughed about it together.

Now that's a TRUE friend.

[irc333]

People get drunk and fool around all the time...this is nothing new...next post.

 

 

Is it a guy's instinct to put the moves on a girl when they're alone? Even if he didn't have ANY feelings for the girl? And especially when the girl is drunk and lying on the bed?

 

I was drunk and my guy friend took care of me, we had to spend the night at a hotel because we had no where else to go. I trusted him completely but then later that night I find him sitting by my bed, petting me, kissing my hand and then we eventually made out. I was drunk but still conscious. He had a little to drink but he was still sober enough to check in a hotel..etc.

 

I heard him say "what am I doing?" to himself when he pulled back from kissing me, like he's trying to control himself from coming closer to me. He however, then ended up sitting beside my bed, holding my hand and that's the last thing I remember. I'm sure we didn't have sex.

 

Guys, so if you're in a hotel room with a girl, is it really that hard to keep yourself away from the girl? The girl is your friend, you don't have feelings for her. Or would you just let "lust" take over?

[allenpo123]

Yeah guys, case closed. NEVER EVER get that drunk again in the first place. OP has learned her lesson.

[mtber75]

I dont sleep with drunk women. Ever.

 

 

Yeah that's seriously f**ked up! You'll have a good chance of going to jail because women will always regret the actions that they take when their boozed up!