Author sweetkiwi Posted January 2, 2013 Author Posted January 2, 2013 I don't like ONSs. Plus I live upstairs from all the bars. It'd be like ****ting where I eat. Get me? It's a little more complicated than that. I didn't intend kissing him. And honestly I wish I hadn't because he was one of my only "friends" in this city.
nofool4u Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Ugh god. All we did was kiss. We were both drunk and honestly I barely remember. Ok, so in a nutshell, you made out sooooooo much. Now its only "kissing", but you barely remember because you were drunk. Who knows, perhaps you told him you loved him and just didn't remember:o I asked him to go home and then I fell asleep on the couch. He fell asleep with me. You didn't say that before, and you barely remember what happened. Do you want to know what color his panties were?? Too bad. Didn't see them. I simply kissed the guy. No, you said you made out soooo much. That implies something more. I think you are changing it up now because people have called you out and you don't really want to admit you led the guy on. The VERY NEXT DAY HE'S A STAGE 2 CLINGER. Im sorry but why the hell should I take responsibility for his actions. Because you possibly led him on. If he is a clingy needy whiny man, ok. But it looks as if you are changing things up not really wanting to believe you led him on. Ok, I'll take your word for it. He is a stage 3 clinger. But you led him on. End of story.
Author sweetkiwi Posted January 2, 2013 Author Posted January 2, 2013 Listen dude/girl, where I come from making out is kissing with tongue. Probably lying down. Hooking up is anything more. Yes I already took responsibility for hurting his feelings. Buonanotte.
Keenly Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Regardless... Dude could have been a little more independent and less clingy... Act like you've been with a woman before .
Author sweetkiwi Posted January 2, 2013 Author Posted January 2, 2013 Regardless... Dude could have been a little more independent and less clingy... Act like you've been with a woman before . Isssss especially someone who has HEARD me talk about how other guys can be annoying and clingy. One just sent me a text actually!!! This stuff happens a lot. From both perspectives. I try to help my brothers with this EXACT stuff. And I also talked to this particular guy. Anyway I do feel bad. I am not a heartbreaker on purpose. The younger guys just do this clingy stuff a lot more.
Keenly Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Isssss especially someone who has HEARD me talk about how other guys can be annoying and clingy. One just sent me a text actually!!! This stuff happens a lot. From both perspectives. I try to help my brothers with this EXACT stuff. And I also talked to this particular guy. Anyway I do feel bad. I am not a heartbreaker on purpose. The younger guys just do this clingy stuff a lot more. I have a random question for you kiwi, would it work better in your favor if a man feigned disinterest. Now let me try and clarify here.... Let's say you like me, and I like you. In order to avoid coming off as clingy, I instead stay fairly distant. Not completely distant, but just the opposite of clingy, not sure what to call it. Would that improve the attraction ? Would it make you think about me more / have more respect for me? Or would it not help and I should stop pondering strategy haha.
stillafool Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Okay now we're on topic. IME it has been 100% of younger men who behave this way versus <20% of older guys who act this way. I am sure that there are unique cases to disprove my opinion. But its just that. My opinion. This is simply why me, myself, personally prefers older men. I can assure you that older men can be just as clingy, if not more clingly than younger men. It really has nothing to do with age. As a matter of fact most younger men have more going on in their social lives than older men and are quick to change gfs.
KungFuJoe Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 I can assure you that older men can be just as clingy, if not more clingly than younger men. It really has nothing to do with age. As a matter of fact most younger men have more going on in their social lives than older men and are quick to change gfs. This is true. Now kiwi states that she experiences this mostly with young guys but then I wonder what is the ratio of young vs old in terms of the guys she is seeing or hanging around? If you are around more young guys, of course this is going to happen more often.
Author sweetkiwi Posted January 3, 2013 Author Posted January 3, 2013 Great question. People my own age do not allow insiders in readily. This is in stark contrast to my social life in California. Here I am in a fairly wealthy city in Italy. The people my age are usually pretty stuck up. And I stick out like a sore thumb. Therefore my group of "friends" are ages 14-21 and 30-40+. And both age groups have tried with me. Not all. The older guys turn into jerks right away. (Kissing or not). And the younger guys turn into major clingers. A couple of the older guys did this as well but they dont live in my town so its easier to avoid them. Remember folks I live in Italy. The rules are different here. Shoot I barely know the rules over here!!
c57dood Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 How can a man say no to the Sweets of Sin? Belladonna, delirium, black widow, she Crosses his path. "Love me or I'll kill you" she sends, filling his dreams of consumation and apoplectic rejuvenation at the revelation of reciprocation! "Come, my child, my gem which sits wholly apart from all others. Let me carry you unto the water, and shed our flaming passions into, by, and for the sea. All erased, all extinguished, my nature compels me ever on until I learn the Sacred Genesis." The water will drown him. The Drink will Ignite him. You are playing with fire, my dear. 1
Author sweetkiwi Posted January 3, 2013 Author Posted January 3, 2013 I have a random question for you kiwi, would it work better in your favor if a man feigned disinterest. Now let me try and clarify here.... Let's say you like me, and I like you. In order to avoid coming off as clingy, I instead stay fairly distant. Not completely distant, but just the opposite of clingy, not sure what to call it. Would that improve the attraction ? Would it make you think about me more / have more respect for me? Or would it not help and I should stop pondering strategy haha. That's an old game. If I already know I like you and you like me, that's when NO games should be played. Honestly if a guy I am into is distant, like my last ex, I will keep my distance as well. Letting you get it out of your system. If it continues and I sense there's some lame pua crap happening, I am out of there. No time to waste my loves!!
Keenly Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 That's an old game. If I already know I like you and you like me, that's when NO games should be played. Honestly if a guy I am into is distant, like my last ex, I will keep my distance as well. Letting you get it out of your system. If it continues and I sense there's some lame pua crap happening, I am out of there. No time to waste my loves!! Well I'm not really saying it like its a game. I'm a sucker for female attention, and I feel like if I didn't do that, I'd probably be a little clingier than I should be in order to maintain her interest. I ask you because you have the kind of personality I want to attract, and I'm honestly scared that once I get to that point I may actually repel instead. Gotta play it cool ya know ?
ChessPieceFace Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 If you're making out with other guys and then "just wanting to be friends" because you can't get over your ex, you're the one that needs to grow up. 1
nofool4u Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Yes I already took responsibility for hurting his feelings. Really? Where? And owning/taking responsibility is in the realm of you leading him on, not whether you hurt his feelings. He is clingy, we get it. His feeling would probably be hurt no matter what. But you are desperately trying to say it was just kissing in an attempt to NOT take responsibility for leading him on. All that after saying you don't really remember in the first place. Again, he is clingy. We get it. But own YOUR actions.
nofool4u Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 I can assure you that older men can be just as clingy, if not more clingly than younger men. It really has nothing to do with age. As a matter of fact most younger men have more going on in their social lives than older men and are quick to change gfs. I disagree. Sure older men can be clingy. But as an older man, I see the other side of the coin. We aren't getting any younger and don't have time for games such as this. As I said earlier, if I liked her after making out, I'd try to see where it goes. If it becomes clear I was played or the woman is playing games, I don't bother with her any longer. Depending on the level of game playing, I might get off a few choice words, but I will expeditiously depart nonetheless.
nofool4u Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Therefore my group of "friends" are ages 14-21 and 30-40+. And both age groups have tried with me. Not all. The older guys turn into jerks right away. (Kissing or not). And the younger guys turn into major clingers. The older guys turn into jerks how? By not putting up with games? If you find what you said about both age groups to be true, maybe the problem isn't them? I mean lets look at this. The younger guys probably do come off as clingy to someone that plays games with them. The older guys probably won't stand for it, therefore they are perceived as jerks to you.
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