truth_seeker Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 But, you are being a hypocrite. You said you wouldn't date an obese girl...my wife wouldn't date a short guy. Is there a difference? I say there is. Obese is disgusting. Being short isn't.
somedude81 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Then explain all my short friends who are married or have been successful with women? Are they ALL anamolies? All lucky? Or do I live in an alternate universe? Maybe I do. I've said it a few times on this forum that height is something that can be made up for. Good lucks, lots of charm etc, can make up for the -2 points that come from being under 5'10. Though I have not been able to cancel out my height and that is a major factor of why I struggle. Basically if I was 5'10 and nothing about me was different, I would have done much better with me. But because I'm so short, I need to completely rework my personality to become acceptable to women.
Lonely Ronin Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 /insert sarcastic response. I know I'm short. My point was that she was calling her average height ex short. Which basically meant that any men shorter are a hobbits. It's a relative term, so one woman's short, is another woman's average, is another woman's tall, and another woman's huge. hell, at 6'0" I've been told I'm to tall..... I don't know if KungFuJoe's 1 to 10 ratio is right, but I know for a fact your 10 to 1 ratio isn't. You have spent so long consuming the crap spewed by the trolls on LS, and reading the blogs of manipulators trying to make a buck, that I don't think you even know what way is up anymore.
KungFuJoe Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I say there is. Obese is disgusting. Being short isn't. What I mean is...everyone has their own opinion on an ideal physical partner. My wife, and some women, prefer tall men. Just like some guys will prefer little, petite women over taller, thicker women. Is anyone more shallow than the other? NO. Not at all. It's all a matter of preference.
somedude81 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Oddest compliment I got from a girl: "If you were taller, I would so go for you." Me: "Thanks?" The correct response is: "Fu*k you."
Lonely Ronin Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 But because I'm so short, I need to completely rework my personality to become acceptable to women. Strait up I would put my next pay check against this in a heart beat. You are doing poorly because of your personality not your height. When was the last time you where out with a mixed group of friends? How many friends have you hung out with over the last 6 months? How many of them where women? Strait up, you come of as socially awkward, and anti social. The only time you seem to be social, is when you are trying to meet a woman. Most women are going to see you as a hermit, and they are going to not want anything to do with you, because they don't want to be your only form of social interaction. I can tell you for a fact that it sucks the life out of a person, because I have done it in reverse.
veggirl Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 The joys of reading about women who gigs (acting like idiots) in their 20s and now are rushing and willing to compromise now and lower their standards only to realize there are no good ones left while their clock is getting louder and louder. I don't know man. I'm 29 and I partied my way through my 20s, had a great old time. I want to settle down now and am doing so with a sexy and successful man (he's even 2 yrs younger than I am)...never had to lower any standards. If anything he is much higher quality than what I messed with when I was 22. But like I said, I'm 29 so we'll see in 4 mos if I turn into a hideous troll and he dumps me and sends me back home for a teenager.
somedude81 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Maybe I do. I've said it a few times on this forum that height is something that can be made up for. Good lucks, lots of charm etc, can make up for the -2 points that come from being under 5'10. Though I have not been able to cancel out my height and that is a major factor of why I struggle. Basically if I was 5'10 and nothing about me was different, I would have done much better with me. But because I'm so short, I need to completely rework my personality to become acceptable to women. My God the typo's. I need to pay attention what I'm posting Good looks, lots of charm etc I would have done much better with women
KungFuJoe Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Pretty much what Ronin said. But somedude, I notice you have almost 10K posts here. I would say that your love affair with LS has more than run its course. I would seriously consider getting some therapy and trying to work out the issues you have with women. You obviously don't love or respect women and that is very reflective in your personality. And you wonder why you have issues with women?
somedude81 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Strait up I would put my next pay check against this in a heart beat. You are doing poorly because of your personality not your height. I said I'm doing poorly because of my height and my personality. If I was taller, I would be considered more physically attractive even if nothing else changed. That would have been enough to at least attract a couple of the girls I've liked over the years. Instead of just being friends we could have dated. Too many pretend GF's When was the last time you where out with a mixed group of friends? How many friends have you hung out with over the last 6 months? How many of them where women? How is that even important? When I did have a mixed group of friends, well actually it was far more girls than guys, none of them wanted to date me. Strait up, you come of as socially awkward, and anti social. The only time you seem to be social, is when you are trying to meet a woman. Most women are going to see you as a hermit, and they are going to not want anything to do with you, because they don't want to be your only form of social interaction. I can tell you for a fact that it sucks the life out of a person, because I have done it in reverse. All that coming from a guy whose never met me. BTW, if I'm only social when I'm trying to meet women. That means I'm being social when I'm around women, how are they going to think that I'm an anti-social hermit when I'm being sociable?
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Your wife is pretty shallow. HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS because his wife "draws the line" at men under 5'11". right after YOU post: When it comes to repulsion, I draw that line at very overweight. Can you not comprehend the utter hypocrisy in this? SD, you are CONSTANTLY deriding women for having preferences that you don't think are "worthy." In a recent thread you called them "stupid." Please explain how women's preferences are "shallow" and "stupid" while you are entitled to having yours without criticism? In what world is it accepted for men to have standards about what a girl they'll date looks like, and women are shallow and stupid if they do the same? I have probably asked you this at least ten times. Please explain so I can understand. WHY? 3
iris219 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 My mistake. I believed that you were a "career first" woman and just recently decided that you wanted to start dating and were no having trouble because no men are age appropriate. Though continuing to live in an area where there are no age appropriate men is basically admitting that your career is more important. I'm a "I ain't got a man, so I have to support myself" kind of woman. Being able to support myself is the most important thing in my life. Why wouldn't it be? No one else is going to do it for me. What I mean is...everyone has their own opinion on an ideal physical partner. My wife, and some women, prefer tall men. Just like some guys will prefer little, petite women over taller, thicker women. Is anyone more shallow than the other? NO. Not at all. It's all a matter of preference. This. ^ I can't understand why some of the guys here get all upset that some women prefer to not date short guys. How is it superficial to have a preference? I know there are men who haven’t wanted to date me because of my height (almost 5'9") or because I’m not curvy enough. I remember a guy in high school telling me how pretty I’d be if I wasn’t so pale and skinny. Whatever. I’m pale and skinny and I like it, and so do some men. The ones who don’t like it don’t hurt my feelings. They have a right to like women who look a certain way. Just like women have a right to be attracted to men who look a certain way.
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 You obviously don't love or respect women and that is very reflective in your personality. And you wonder why you have issues with women? NO KIDDING. Until SD can learn to have women in his life without viewing them petulantly as entities who exist to either provide him with or deny him what he wants from them (sex and / or generic fantasy of "girlfriend"), NOTHING is going to change. 1
Woggle Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I must admit that while I don't buy into the whole ageist crap when I was single if I suspected a woman of any age just wanted to marry because her clock was ticking or she wanted a father for her kids I would run. You are risking being settled for when you marry a woman who sees you that way. The only good reason to marry is because you love the person and I have to know a woman is in love with me before I marry her. 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 The issues I have with women is that they aren't attracted to me. Unfortunately I can't require all women to go into therapy to become attracted to me so I'm the one who has to change. Yay! A moment of clarity! You do need to change. The rest of your post is bogus, though. Your problems are not due to women not being attracted to you. Women aren't attracted to you because of your problems. So get busy working on changing them. OK?
somedude81 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I'm a "I ain't got a man, so I have to support myself" kind of woman. Being able to support myself is the most important thing in my life. Why wouldn't it be? No one else is going to do it for me. So you couldn't move to an area where there are dateable men and have a job? My point is that you have a choice.
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Then explain all my short friends who are married or have been successful with women? Are they ALL anamolies? All lucky? Or do I live in an alternate universe? No. Those are men who know how to relate to women as fellow human beings. Probably can relate to men too. Even short guys are capable of it!
iris219 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 So you couldn't move to an area where there are dateable men and have a job? My point is that you have a choice. No. I couldn't move and support myself.
somedude81 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS because his wife "draws the line" at men under 5'11". right after YOU post: Can you not comprehend the utter hypocrisy in this? The 5'4 woman herself is short. Calling men under 5'11 short is being a hypocrite. I am not obese. Saying that I'm not attracted to obese women is not hypocrisy.
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I say there is. Obese is disgusting. Being short isn't. That's a matter of personal opinion, and I think that pronouncing all obese people as being "disgusting" is disgusting in itself. Don't date fat people if you don't find that attractive or even find it ugly, and don't date short people for the same reasons. No need to insult either group.
KungFuJoe Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 The 5'4 woman herself is short. Calling men under 5'11 short is being a hypocrite. I am not obese. Saying that I'm not attracted to obese women is not hypocrisy. So a short person can't want a tall partner? Is this another one of your "laws" of dating? A blonde can't want a brunette? A black guy can't want a white girl? You want what you want. You can't help it anymore than you can your sexual orientation.
somedude81 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 So a short person can't want a tall partner? Is this another one of your "laws" of dating? A blonde can't want a brunette? A black guy can't want a white girl? Is that what I said? Is that even remotely close to what I said?
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 The 5'4 woman herself is short. Calling men under 5'11 short is being a hypocrite. Really? Then why does a guy in his 30's like you feel that it's okay to only be interested in women in their early 20's? Does rejecting women in their 30's make you a hypocrite, because you yourself are in that age range? How about refusing to consider women who are 10 years older than you are? Does this make you a hypocrite, since you like women 10 years younger than you? I believe you also prefer long hair. Do you offer long hair as well? Because if you don't, by your own "logic" as well as mine, you're a hypocrite. I won't even go into the "at least a 'C' cup" prerequisite. You like what you like, SD. Other men, and women do too. If a woman thinks any man under six feet tall is too short for her liking, that's down to WHAT SHE LIKES, not to her own height. Just like you only liking women 10 years younger than you with long hair has nothing to do with your own age or the length of your own hair. In both cases, it has NOTHING to do with all the men and women who fall outside of somebody's range of preferences - it just narrows that person's pool of potential partners. Can you wrap your mind around this? I am not obese. Saying that I'm not attracted to obese women is not hypocrisy. I agree with you. I am not attracted to fat men, either. But I also don't call people "shallow" or "stupid" who express their own preferences. 1
TheZebra Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I think you mean My ex is the biggest example...average height (5'8-5'9). -------------------------- Leave the short label for those unlucky SOB's that are 5'6 or under. Edit: In my previous post I meant "were having trouble" Don't know how the no slipped in there. I only call him short because he always called himself short. Plus, most women (apparently) call that short. Frankly, I kind of prefer it... I don't like guys who are 6+ feet.
Lonely Ronin Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 If I was taller, I would be considered more physically attractive even if nothing else changed. That would have been enough to at least attract a couple of the girls I've liked over the years. Attract probably, keep not likely. The only thing height helps with is getting your foot in the door, if you want to stay in the house, you need a good personality. How is that even important? When I did have a mixed group of friends, well actually it was far more girls than guys, none of them wanted to date me. I must have told you this 100 times by now, having a larger group of friends leads to meeting more people. The more people you know, the bigger your dating pool. All that coming from a guy whose never met me. You have almost 10,000 posts under you belt, I don't need to know you, to get a damn good read on your personality. Reading through your posts, and more specifically the many threads you have started about your issues, is about equal to me stealing your diary and reading it. BTW, if I'm only social when I'm trying to meet women. That means I'm being social when I'm around women, how are they going to think that I'm an anti-social hermit when I'm being sociable? Don't play dumb with me, you know what i mean. being social, and being social to meet women is not the same thing, and most half way intelligent people can tell the difference. Additionally, you have said several times that when you are around women you never talk about your self, that is a huge indicator of someone who is either socially awkward, anti social, or a hermit. Very few women want anything to do with a guy with any of those 3 issues.
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