Radu Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 And there are tons of women, like myself, who made getting married and having children a priority throughout their 20s, but this never happened for them. Yes, but unlike the women that poster referenced, you most likely have relationship experience, know what it takes to keep it healthy.
edgygirl Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Looking back on this thread and reading online in different women's magazine, there is a sense of entitlement. Don't you have a sense of entitlement? Why should women be different? That's a chauvinistic way of thinking. the fact that the guys prefer to date the new crop of girls that replaced them as 20yr old hotties Speak for yourself and/or the bitter brigade. Not all men feel the same, and it's not what our RL experience shows. I don't feel one bit that I am being substituted for younger girls. What I feel is that a lot of the 30s and 40s yo guys left are set in their ways and/or have issues.
EasyHeart Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Maybe it's the area I live in but there are women all around me who found their mates in their mid-late 30's. I have a gf who got married over the summer, 39, and they just closed on a house and are pregnant. There are definitely regional differences. Where I grew up, it was pretty common to wait until your 30s to get married. When I went to my 20 year high school reunion, most of my friends had only recently gotten married. But where I live now, it's pretty common for people to marry their HS/college sweetheart and finding anyone over 25 who's single is problematic. There are very few desirable single men left. And even if there are some, Mr. Castle turns us gay.
iris219 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 And even if there are some, Mr. Castle turns us gay. Don't fall for it. He'll break your heart.
Radu Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Don't you have a sense of entitlement? Why should women be different? That's a chauvinistic way of thinking. I sure do, but mine is recently installed. I'm 30, and up till the last few months i always had issues dating. Ever since i was 13, i was passed on, made fun off, and humiliated by the same girls of my age that i now see getting into 'desperate' mode. I'm entering my prime [and so are they], but society has decided that older man/younger woman is more socially acceptable than the reverse and for the first time in my life the odds are not stacked against me. Speak for yourself and/or the bitter brigade. Not all men feel the same, and it's not what our RL experience shows. I don't feel one bit that I am being substituted for younger girls. What I feel is that a lot of the 30s and 40s yo guys left are set in their ways and/or have issues. No no no, while the bitter brigade of men does exist and i admit i was a part of it, starting with the age of 30 i see the bitter brigade of women. It has a completely different MO [more passive but just as entitled]. And i don't mean to be rude, but you are 40 ... not mid 30 or even 30. The difference in mentality is huge. 1
dasein Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Must feel good to you to constantly deny women's issues and magnify men's. To us, it's simply annoying. It's funny how women are hated if they are single when tons and tons of men don't want relationships. If you know basic math you will know that some women are bound to stay single or have a hell of a time finding anyone worthy. Truly twisted as usual from you. Nothing in my prior post was meant negatively, but rather as positive encouragement for OP's situation, and no reasonable, sane person would interpret my post the way you do. You are so hilariously bent on ranting and tossing insults at me that you don't even read my posts before going off half-cocked. Find some other poster to obsess on.
edgygirl Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) society has decided that older man/younger woman is more socially acceptable than the reverse Which society? What country are you from? Who said we want younger men? No no no, while the bitter brigade of men does exist and i admit i was a part of it, starting with the age of 30 i see the bitter brigade of women. It has a completely different MO [more passive but just as entitled]. Darling, you are *still* part of the bitter brigade. You were hurt and that's why you say the things you do and only go for 20 yo. It's clear as water. And i don't mean to be rude, but you are 40 ... not mid 30 or even 30. The difference in mentality is huge. How would you know? And what do you mean by that exactly? Edited December 22, 2012 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
Woggle Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 These kinds of men are just as bad as the women who chased after players for years then decide that all men are dogs. 1
truth_seeker Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Do you also consider men in their 20s who want to have fun "whores"? How old are you? I don't think a woman can be a slut for years then all of the sudden turn that life style off and be a good wife and mother. I'm in my 30's. 2
KathyM Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I think that men that didn't get married in their 20s end up wanting to settle down by the time they are in their 30s and are done sowing their wild oats, but the problem for women in their 30s then becomes that those men are looking to settle down with a women who is mid to late 20s. I think your most likely bet is a guy who is 40ish, divorced, with children. You'll find those types through OLD. 1
iris219 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I don't think a woman can be a slut for years then all of the sudden turn that life style off and be a good wife and mother. I'm in my 30's. Can men be players for years and then suddenly become good husband and father material? I guess you would advise me to avoid all men who slept around in their 20s? 7
mesmerized Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Truly twisted as usual from you. Nothing in my prior post was meant negatively, but rather as positive encouragement for OP's situation, and no reasonable, sane person would interpret my post the way you do. You are so hilariously bent on ranting and tossing insults at me that you don't even read my posts before going off half-cocked. Find some other poster to obsess on. Perhaps because I know your way of thinking. You always say things like double standards don't exist. Stigma for women being single doesn't exist and probably never existed (seriously???). Basically whatever issue women deal with in dating to you is non existent or somehow women's fault. Way too many posts from you in this regard and yes, they stand out to me. I didn't interpret your post as something *bad*, just wanted to point out your typical trend on this forum when it comes to women's issues.
Brit Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Can men be players for years and then suddenly become good husband and father material? I guess you would advise me to avoid all men who slept around in their 20s? Depends on the man, us women, could assume their might be the potential that they will be the run of the mill 'serial cheater.' Or as many men have stated they wish to date women with low self esteem who are in their twenties, might marry god forbid, and then become, 'serial cheaters,' and these type of woman they chose, having low self esteem, will put up with the serial cheating garbage, for many, many years.
truth_seeker Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Can men be players for years and then suddenly become good husband and father material? I guess you would advise me to avoid all men who slept around in their 20s? No. These types of men stray. Again, it's one thing if you date 3-5 people and stay with them for the course of the relationship - don't cheat - and another if you're just banging random people over and over. I think people who sleep around (ONS, random hook ups in clubs, bars, when they go on vacation - and never see the person again) they are the ones who have a hard time committing and sustaining a healthy relationship. For the most part they are unstable and damaged beyond repair.
Radu Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Point proven. Most guys who post here bashing women and wanting 20 yo only have the exact same background of not getting any. It would help for you to be a little less insulting, and to assume less. And i go for 24-27. I actually find 20yr olds too immature. Which society? What country are you from? Who said we want younger men? Most societies my dear, it's just how it is. If anything, i'm from a country that is both above the west in women's rights in the workplace, but also very backward in it's patriarchal mentalities in certain places. If you think you know better, pls tell me what societies have older woman/ younger man as the socially acceptable norm. Darling, you are *still* part of the bitter brigade. You were hurt and that's why you say the things you do and only go for 20 yo. It's clear as water. I'm not your darling, i'm someone else's. Yeah, i was hurt, i did not hide it ... it's part of who and what i am. And again i don't go for 20yr olds. How would you know? And what do you mean by that exactly? I know because i remember what certain ppl post, it's mostly linked to their avatars, and your avatar is quite interesting. Interpret that remark by taking into account desire/need of having kids and wisdom. 1
dasein Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Basically whatever issue women deal with in dating to you is non existent or somehow women's fault. OP's concern is that being in her early-mid 30s will be a disadvantage for her in seeking marriage. My post attempts to encourage her otherwise, several of my female friends didn't marry for the first time until they were in their mid-late 40s. Yet despite having this explained to you clearly twice now, you will continue your delusions, I have no doubt. Stop referencing my posting history without specific quotes of what you find objectionable btw. When done to the level you do it, it rises to the level of personal attacks against the forum rules.
edgygirl Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I think people who sleep around (ONS, random hook ups in clubs, bars, when they go on vacation - and never see the person again) they are the ones who have a hard time committing and sustaining a healthy relationship. For the most part they are unstable and damaged beyond repair. I have no problem whatsoever with people's sexual past. It's okay if they been around and got it out of their system. Perhaps it's even better than people who don't do anything and feel later in life that they have to do it. Are you religious or so?
truth_seeker Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I have no problem whatsoever with people's sexual past. It's okay if they been around and got it out of their system. Perhaps it's even better than people who don't do anything and feel later in life that they have to do it. Are you religious or so? I wouldn't say I am religious but I do have my beliefs. Personally, I would be bothered if my wife slept with many men before me and engaged in orgies, threesomes and possibly had videos of her herself having sex with men or women. If she was in 2-3 relationships, then it wouldn't be a problem.
Charlie Harper Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 So we men can be sluts.... but not the other way around? oops I thought we were on the 21 century !!!!
Imajerk17 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Perhaps because I know your way of thinking. You always say things like double standards don't exist. Stigma for women being single doesn't exist and probably never existed (seriously???). Basically whatever issue women deal with in dating to you is non existent or somehow women's fault. Way too many posts from you in this regard and yes, they stand out to me. I didn't interpret your post as something *bad*, just wanted to point out your typical trend on this forum when it comes to women's issues. I dunno, I think every gender has its own cross to bear. Some of you women talk like you have it so much tougher or something. Or rather, you dismiss the male whiners while you seem to get upset when you feel your own struggles aren't acknowledged. If a woman is physically attractive to me and seems to have her life together, I will be interested in getting to know her. I've been into women in their 20s, 30s and 40's. Pretty simple.
iris219 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I dunno, I think every gender has its own cross to bear. Some of you women talk like you have it so much tougher or something. Or rather, you dismiss the male whiners while you seem to get upset when you feel your own struggles aren't acknowledged. If a woman is physically attractive to me and seems to have her life together, I will be interested in getting to know her. I've been into women in their 20s, 30s and 40's. Out of curiosity, what does this mean exactly? (I'm personally not interested in anyone whose goals aren't marriage and children.)
gaius Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Dating is not hard at any age if you keep yourself together and don't have unrealistic standards. You should see the old cucks hit on my grandmother at the senior center. Every chronically single person I know is that way because they want to be on some level. 1
truth_seeker Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I dont know what the hell men want from women. I'll give you my answer: 1) Honesty 2) Fidelity 3) Emotional Support There. I said it. 1
Imajerk17 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Out of curiosity, what does this mean exactly? (I'm personally not interested in anyone whose goals aren't marriage and children.) I would be interested in going on a couple of dates to see if we click. If we do, then maybe she will be my girlfriend. If we fall in love I would like to marry her. But I have no idea if I will be headed that way with someone until I actually get to know them. And I'm not going to grill them about marriage and children on the first date either. And I would run from a woman who grilled me about marriage and children on the first date.
xxoo Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I'll give you my answer: 1) Honesty 2) Fidelity 3) Emotional Support There. I said it. Finding that, plus attraction, would you commit? Would most? How many men get to their 30s without ever having experienced the desire to marry a woman? (a specific woman--not a general urge to get married) 1
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