KungFuJoe Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 All of the above were midrange/mainframe systems. The Cyber was actually cooled by glycol, IIRC. Two Cybers and support equipment took up a huge "machine room" at Tech. Google CDC Cyber and check out the Wikipedia page. When I was 19, the 80286 had just come out and my PC had a 20MEG hard drive! I did check it out. Very cool. The only mainframes I've ever encountered have been AS400's...and of course every company is trying to migrate off of them at this point but can't because of legacy software. It's kind of funny how we went from mainframes to distributed computing and now with virtualization, we are going back to the "mainframe" model, so to speak. I guess everything does come full circle. I would estimate you have probably a decade on me.
xxoo Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 SD, if you could just be yourself with women in person--funny, sarcastic, bold, flirty--the way you often are here on LS, you'd have no problem attracting women.
Author somedude81 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Posted December 23, 2012 Feel confident in yourself. Develope inner strength. When you are with women try to feel confident and at ease. Stand up for yourself. Do not agree with a woman just because you want her to like you or you think she will not like what you have to say. If a woman treats you disrespectfully let her know that if she wants to be treated with respect you expect the same from her. Do not whine or complain about small things all the time. Take the lead and try to be assertive. Think about how women feel about certain issues put yourself in their shoes every once in a while so you will have a better understanding of them. Aside form the inner confidence and strength thing, I do all of them already. I always try to take the lead and be assertive when I'm with a girl. I don't complain. I also don't let girls push me around or always agree with them. I don't know about the putting myself in their shoes thing. I can't think of any situations. 1. Don't care too much. If you can take your ego out of meeting women, impersonalize the process some, you are halfway there. Read some sales prospecting training books. A strange woman is just a sales prospect, lots say no, every no gets closer to a yes. I keep hearing how dating is related to sales. Namely that you are selling yourself, trying to find a buyer and most people are reluctant to want what I have to offer, even if I'm simply trying to give it away. How do I impersonalize it when the product is me? When the girls shows that she doesn't want me, how do I take that as something that isn't an attack on me? 2. Quantity of approaches. Are you meeting five people of all sorts every week? Are you going where single women are and talking to them? Are you asking out at the very least 3-5 women a month? Many of the guys who constantly have women are successful merely due to quantity and effort, you just don't see their effort. Number's game eh? I agree that meeting lots of women is great. But is it really depended on numbers? No I don't ask out 3-5 girls a month. That seems like an awful lot. Where would I even meet that many girls to ask out. When would I ask them out? After how long of knowing them? 3. Social circle. Do you have a group of friends who have single women friends and socialize together, casual parties, dinner parties? If not, get busy making some new friends. For some reason I've never been in a mixed social group it was always just guys and I never got in the right situations. Then I started making female friends but I never went to any social events with them. It was always just me and a girl. One thing I think I need to do is make friends with single guys who are good with women, that I can learn from. Though I don't have a clue how I can even begin that route.
Badsingularity Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 Aside form the inner confidence and strength thing, I do all of them already. Unfortunately that is one of the most important things. It's what gives you an attractive vibe. No I don't ask out 3-5 girls a month. That seems like an awful lot. Where would I even meet that many girls to ask out. When would I ask them out? After how long of knowing them? 3-5 times a week sounds more like it when you are trying to improve yourself, get used to rejection, and learn what women respond to. You can meet them in bars and clubs even if you don't want to get a GF from there it is good practice. You can ask girls for their numbers within 30 minutes of meeting them.
IT Geek Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 3-5 times a week sounds more like it when you are trying to improve yourself, get used to rejection, and learn what women respond to. You can meet them in bars and clubs even if you don't want to get a GF from there it is good practice. You can ask girls for their numbers within 30 minutes of meeting them. That's all fine and dandy, but if you get blown off within the first five minutes that just ain't possible.
ThaWholigan Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 That's all fine and dandy, but if you get blown off within the first five minutes that just ain't possible. Somedude - this is the kind of mentality you do not need to have ^^^^. Sometimes you have to stop asking questions and thinking about all the negative outcomes and just do sh*t without worrying about some perceived consequence or attack on character. 1
Badsingularity Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 That's all fine and dandy, but if you get blown off within the first five minutes that just ain't possible. When I was doing this stuff I had a few times when I was blown off in the first 5 seconds. Sometimes rudely. If that happens you just have to realize that someone who does that isn't a being a very cool person and you try again with another woman. The important thing is to not let the rejection get you too down. One very important thing to remember when trying to talk to women is that if you feel at ease and calm they will usually feel the same way. If you start to feel realy nervous just remind yourself of this and it can actually help you calm down. 2
antineutrino Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 3-5 times a week sounds more like it when you are trying to improve yourself, get used to rejection, and learn what women respond to. You can meet them in bars and clubs even if you don't want to get a GF from there it is good practice. You can ask girls for their numbers within 30 minutes of meeting them. Should we just make an effort whenever we're out? I know a lot of people say that cold approaches maybe aren't the best thing for people w/ no or little experience (I've told myself I need to do it, but I can never get the courage), but how else would you get the 3-5 times a week?
IT Geek Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 Somedude - this is the kind of mentality you do not need to have ^^^^. Sometimes you have to stop asking questions and thinking about all the negative outcomes and just do sh*t without worrying about some perceived consequence or attack on character. This isn't a mentality. It's reality. I was at a big EOTW party at a bar Friday night and actually tried talking to a few women. I got blown off within 5 minutes every time. "Oh, I have to find my friend" "Oh, I have to go to the bathroom". When my friend got there, we were sitting at the bar and had a bunch of women slide in between us to get to the bar to order. Who did they always face and talk to? Him. So, it's just not thinking or a mentality.
JuneJulySeptember Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Good looks obviously. Yes they have a part but are just the tip of the iceberg. Good looks aren't everything, but they are the ticket into the event so to speak. If you're not good looking enough to physically attract a good number of women by a certain age, then it's going to be a difficult proposition. You'll pretty much have to go for women that don't care much about looks, and they are a smaller percentage, maybe 3% or so?
SJC2008 Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 And OP.. make sure you read this: 6 Harsh Truths That Will Make You A Better Person Its not OP material but is vetry helpful for people in your situation. While the article is interesting I totally disagree with it. Yes people need things and it makes it seem like you need to have something great to offer and here's an example ' I'm a great listener, So! there's a great listener who plays guitar'. Ok point taken and here's my point. Of the 12 women I've dated in the past year, only ONE of them was was as funny as I am or funnier!!! I'm tired of reading "better yourself", "social skills", "confidence". How does a controlling, manipulative woman who couldn't tell a joke if she had a script in front of her have a 7 year R and I can't even get past the 5th date? If you can't get a girlfriend you need to lower your standards (including me and that sucks becasue they're pretty low:( ). It's MOSTLY about looks and here's why: There are 4 types of relationships 1) Man wears the pants 2) Man wears the pants and is abusive 3) Woman wears the pants 4)Woman wears the pants and is abusive. There are PLENTY of controlling women out there who want and need passive men becasue that's the only type of men they can control. So if you're passive like me and you can't get into 3 or 4 (not saying I want to) then you're punching out of your league!!!
ChessPieceFace Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Stop trying. Adopt a dog. ... just make sure that kind of thing is legal in the state you live in.
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