singlelife Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 i see those guys getting chased down and kissed and basically raped! they turn down tons of a@#. I don't get it.
Mrlonelyone Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 i see those guys getting chased down and kissed and basically raped! they turn down tons of a@#. I don't get it. Women who like gay bi men and MTF transgender women or even FTM transgender men are simply open minded. They do not measure their own identity by the specific anatomy of who they are attracted to. There are women who are involved with FTM transgender men (born as women understand) who consider themselves to be straight ... or lesbian depending on how they see themselves. There are women who are involved with MTF transgender women (born as men) who consider themselves to be straight or lesbian depending on how they see themselves. There are women who love bisexual men who do not think that the man being bi, makes him less of a man. Further they are secure that the man is trustable and do not harbor the attitude that someone who is bi must need to have both at all times. There are women who would love to have a gay man for almost the same reason some love transgender MTF. There are even men who are life long, avowed gays...who are dating and in LTRs with women. They just love that specific woman. So instead of building ones identity around who makes them horny...then around the specific person they are with...people should just have their own sense of self. Something that does not vary depending on who they are around. 1
SmileFace Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Yeah.. I am still waiting for my best friend to go back straight. I am always saying **** like "We are so going to get drunk and make out" "I know this guy - he is gay too" "Bitch" "No offense I mean stupid gay" "Bitch" "You're like particuly a girl" "You're my gay boyfriend" "I will make you a apple-tini" "I really need a girls night" "Bitch" "Fierce" "All the good guys are gay" "You are so gay" 2
sweetkiwi Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I wish i was gay for you SmileFace. I miss my gays. I would kinda like having a bi boyfriend. Especially If i shared him with some hunky guy. Mmmmmm
SmileFace Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I wish i was gay for you SmileFace. I miss my gays. I would kinda like having a bi boyfriend. Especially If i shared him with some hunky guy. Mmmmmm Zomg.. I want a bi boyfriend too for the same reason! 1
ImperfectionisBeauty Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 There aren't a lot of gay people in my town. They usually get the hell out of here ASAP (understandable)
sweetkiwi Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Zomg.. I want a bi boyfriend too for the same reason! Breasties for life!!!! Seriously SmileFace i think we're the same kinda girl. What kind? The best kind. 1
suladas Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I don't get why women like bi guys it seems so weird.
SmileFace Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Breasties for life!!!! Seriously SmileFace i think we're the same kinda girl. What kind? The best kind. Besties with Breasties!! Hmm, my ex is into some freaky ****. I never asked him his take on this. I may just give him a next lay if he is ... haha 1
KungFuJoe Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 i see those guys getting chased down and kissed and basically raped! they turn down tons of a@#. I don't get it. Because they're HARMLESS, that's why! They can treat the gay men like pieces of meat and they know they don't have to worry about their intentions. I remember one time in Vegas, I was there with my wife and her best friend (at the time). We met up with some other people and among them was this guy who the three of us thought was gay. He was talking to another guy about how the guy wasn't good looking enough to work for him. NO straight guy EVER talks about another man's looks in that context. EVER. Plus you could tell from his mannerisms. So our friend assumes he's gay and immediately, she's all over him like white on rice. She's hugging him, kissing him on the cheek, being all flirty. We end up going to a strip club together and they end up sharing a stripper in the VIP room. She comes out all flustered and she says to me, "I don't think that guy is gay...he was all over me in the VIP room!". She's visibly upset and she pretty much avoids the guy the rest of the night. I couldn't help but crack up because I had known earlier in the night that he was interested in her because he kept asking me what was up with her. I guessed that meant he was bisexual, but I never told my friend that because I felt she deserved it for trying to play with him.
Mrlonelyone Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Because they're HARMLESS, that's why! They can treat the gay men like pieces of meat and they know they don't have to worry about their intentions. I remember one time in Vegas, I was there with my wife and her best friend (at the time). We met up with some other people and among them was this guy who the three of us thought was gay. He was talking to another guy about how the guy wasn't good looking enough to work for him. NO straight guy EVER talks about another man's looks in that context. EVER. Plus you could tell from his mannerisms. So our friend assumes he's gay and immediately, she's all over him like white on rice. She's hugging him, kissing him on the cheek, being all flirty. We end up going to a strip club together and they end up sharing a stripper in the VIP room. She comes out all flustered and she says to me, "I don't think that guy is gay...he was all over me in the VIP room!". She's visibly upset and she pretty much avoids the guy the rest of the night. I couldn't help but crack up because I had known earlier in the night that he was interested in her because he kept asking me what was up with her. I guessed that meant he was bisexual, but I never told my friend that because I felt she deserved it for trying to play with him. Not necessarily joe. At least not bisexual in the way most people think of the term. Gay men's parts are often able to become excited for a woman and if one throws themselves at him they will have sex with them. They just don't go looking for women or form LTR's with them. That's the real difference between a gay man and a bi man IME and IMHO. A gay man might have very occasional sex with a woman but he would almost never want a LTR with one. A bi man will want LTR's with women, he may even prefer women for LTR's and men for flings or NSA sex...as men are less likely to become attached latter on.
sweetkiwi Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I don't get why women like bi guys it seems so weird. I assume you are a man. In that case don't you like "lesbian" porn? If you're a chick.....sorry i don't get how a cock in a guys mouth isn't hot. Have you seen it? Now that's the way a cock should be sucked!!!! Not this gingerly crap women do. And SmileFace- you get that sheet. Get it good. And Im always down to hear details. ALWAYS. I can think of like three of my best girlfriends you remind me of. Michelle is that you????!?
KungFuJoe Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Not necessarily joe. At least not bisexual in the way most people think of the term. Gay men's parts are often able to become excited for a woman and if one throws themselves at him they will have sex with them. They just don't go looking for women or form LTR's with them. That's the real difference between a gay man and a bi man IME and IMHO. A gay man might have very occasional sex with a woman but he would almost never want a LTR with one. A bi man will want LTR's with women, he may even prefer women for LTR's and men for flings or NSA sex...as men are less likely to become attached latter on. Um...since when do gay men have occasional sex with women? Do you even know any gay men? Any man who is truly gay is NOT going to want to have sex with a woman. The only difference is they don't find women's bodies as "grotesque" as compared to how a straight man feels about a man's body. 1
sweetkiwi Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Almost all the gay guys i know tried to be with women at one point sexually but didn't have many experiences because they don't like vagina. But a greater majority have never ever ever liked women. Except as friends. I don't know many bi guys. But that's obvious what they like: all of it.
Mrlonelyone Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Um...since when do gay men have occasional sex with women? Do you even know any gay men? Any man who is truly gay is NOT going to want to have sex with a woman. The only difference is they don't find women's bodies as "grotesque" as compared to how a straight man feels about a man's body. I was the president of the consumer advisory board for a LGBT clinic. In that setting one finds out things about LGBT people that are not common knowledge. One of those things is that gay men when presented with a naked woman on a plate will partake. Any woman who thinks she can kiss and cuddle and tease a gay man and he won't do it.... is believing the same stereotypes you are. Next thing your gonna tell me what it's like to be black. 1
sweetkiwi Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Yeah what is it like kungFu?? I had no idea i had a world of gay men on my hands for sexual pleasure. Really?? I mean i believe you LonelyOne its just nuts. Are they thinking of guys or are they in the moment?
Mrlonelyone Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) Yeah what is it like kungFu?? I had no idea i had a world of gay men on my hands for sexual pleasure. Really?? I mean i believe you LonelyOne its just nuts. Are they thinking of guys or are they in the moment? I'm not nuts. A woman sitting in a mans lap can feel allot like a man sitting in a mans lap. My cousin has a saying Pu$$y dosen't have no face. By the same token Penis dosen't have eyes. In your words, they act in the moment. A woody is a woody. What makes a gay man gay isn't an aversion to a womans sex organs, but an aversion to all the rest of their body. In short Gay man = A man who does not seek out women for sex. Straight man = A man who only seeks out women for sex. Bisexual man = A man who seeks sex with attractive men and attractive women. The common denominator of all... is when they have a hard on they want to find a warm place to put it. Edited December 17, 2012 by Mrlonelyone
KungFuJoe Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Mrlonelyone, There is a difference between "trying sex with a woman to see what it's like" and "having occasional sex with women". Gay men don't desire sex with women. Period. This is not debatable. If they desire sex with women, they are BI. Gay men, however, WILL try sex with women for fun, if they are drunk, or if they are trying to hide the fact that they are gay. This is because, even though they don't desire the flesh of a woman, they don't find women physically repulsive. To them, it's more like, "whatever...I'm bored." And just because you are the president of some clinic, doesn't mean you know gay people. I have known plenty of gay people. One of my best friends was gay, and believe it or not, I hung out with him and plenty of his gay friends around West LA/Hollywood. My sister in law is a HUGE fag hag (that term is NOT insulting, btw) and I knew plenty of gay guys through her. I have been to plenty of gay and lesbian clubs. I also, for some reason, happen to be a freaking gay guy magnet. I know what a woman feels like when she goes to a club because I get the same thing when I go to gay clubs. I've even had discussions with my gay friend and other gay guys I've known about how they view women. They think women are beautiful...they don't want to have sex with them...but it wouldn't kill them if they did.
sweetkiwi Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I wasn't calling you nuts darling. Im saying you're blowing my mind!! In a good way just to be clear. I find human behaviour infinitely interesting.
KungFuJoe Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I couldn't edit my last post. What I was trying to say is that gay men, though they might have tried sex with a woman, it's not something they look for, women do NOT make them horny...and they will not stick their dick in a woman just because a man isn't around.
bac Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 i see those guys getting chased down and kissed and basically raped! they turn down tons of a@#. I don't get it. Because girls expect that the men can give them what they really want. I mean friendship, similar interests and emotional connection. They expect that the men would not use them as sex objects but they would treat them as friends. A natural male hates the things which girls desire. He hates friendszone, shopping, romantic movies and he is scared of any emotional connection. 1
Mrlonelyone Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Because girls expect that the men can give them what they really want. I mean friendship, similar interests and emotional connection. They expect that the men would not use them as sex objects but they would treat them as friends. A natural male hates the things which girls desire. He hates friendszone, shopping, romantic movies and he is scared of any emotional connection. I'm sorry but the real world is bigger than those stereotypes. Plenty of "natural" by which I take it you mean straight, men like romantic movies, like to shop, and crave an emotional connection with the right woman. There is nothing unnatural about homosexuality. Plenty of animals engage in homosexual behavior in addition to heterosexual behavior. Which brings me to my point. Being "gay" is a matter of sexual identity and self image. That said, gay men and Lesbian women alike still have the drive to reproduce themselves. So, they will very occasionally, (like a few times in a 10 year period) have sex with members of the opposite sex. If they are not in a committed homosexual relationship. Just as, I'm sure you know, at least half of "straight" people have engaged in some form of homosexual activity at some point in their lives. My bottom line is this. A woman who thinks that gay men are 100% unable to have sex with them or something is very wrong. She may not be part of his regular sexual diet, but she's on the menu. 1
sweetkiwi Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I've never been approached by a gay man for sex. That's all Im saying. Nor have i heard of men who were out of the closet approaching women for sex. Until now. Lesbian females yes, i know plenty and some will have occasional sex with men. There is nothing so set in human behaviour that there can't be differences from the closet"norm". I will have to take your word for it LonelyOne.
silvermercy Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Why women desire and chase down gay men? For the same reason men desire lesbians and bi women? Google the terms "yaoi" or "boy love". See how popular it is with females on sites like Tumblr, deviantart and many other sites.
Mrlonelyone Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I've never been approached by a gay man for sex. That's all Im saying. Nor have i heard of men who were out of the closet approaching women for sex. Until now. Lesbian females yes, i know plenty and some will have occasional sex with men. There is nothing so set in human behaviour that there can't be differences from the closet"norm". I will have to take your word for it LonelyOne. Let me ask you this. How would you know he's gay if he's approaching you? Secondly, women do sometimes approach men. Gay men are generally good looking, in shape, well groomed, and well dressed. Statistically gay men, due to discrimination, own businesses or are in professions more than straight men are. In other words they have qualities which could make women approach them. I'm not saying it happens often, but it happens. At the health clinic I volunteered at most of the Lesbians had children and I'm sure many of the gay men did too. Children which were biologically theirs.
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