Who women like to date at various stages of their lives

[Stephanie]

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[irc333]

That's exactly right.

 

Once you've had children, gotten yourself into a solid situation financially, have a nice social circle, have interests you find interesting and rewarding, and know how and where to get your sexual needs met...why would you settle for anything less than exactly what you want, whether you're male or female?

 

The urgency of youth (and biology) pushes a lot of people into situations they'd really much rather not be in.

 

The bolded....how is it you're going about getting your sexual needs met? You're referring to the FWB situation? (Friends with benefits)?

[Brit]

I am not a celebrity, nor am I rich. Neither are my friends. Yet we manage to look good because we make an effort. Something MOST men over 40 do not. How do I know this? I date men over 40. Trust me, most men do NOT age well -- unless they are gay.

 

Some men (cough), will always find a way to put a woman down unless they are screwing them, or when rejected by them are then all about a new age group, different class of women.

Men over 25, men over 30, men over 40, men over 50, can sure hide some blaring beast-monsterous-pork-bellies, behind an expensive suit, and a right notched belt......comes apart and a tsunami of 'oh my god,' expansion ensues.

All that is left is a Rolex, beast-o-belly..................aghhhhhhh yes men are gods!

[Brit]

I guess you don't know how to read. I said "most" women.

 

Finding a group of rich celebrities who can accord the best nutrition, plastic surgery, personal trainers and skin products to look as good as possible and trying to pretend they represent the majority of women makes you look rather... unintelligent.

 

Most people in all age groups are of average looks, there are a certain league of hot men and women in all age groups as well, but when you look around the majority of people are of average or below average in regards to looks.

There are no Victoria Angels or Male runway models filling up the coffee lines at ones work or out shopping. Sorry, the younger you reach, the farther you allow yourself to beome delusional, it will not turn an average nice looking person into an alluring, sexy, hot Victoria Angel.....slithering your way!

[Brit]

Nope. I have decided a much less "friendly" approach is to be in embraced in my case. I know where to find physically attractive, able-bodied, clean young men who can provide what I need (this is one of the great joys of being female, it takes very little effort to get this...relationships on the other hand...). When I can't take the time to do that, I am perfectly able to take care of myself.

 

As has been pointed out time and time again by the oh-so-insightful young men on this board, unless a woman is a complete bitch on wheels (I can control myself when necessary lol!) and looks like a manatee, sex is pretty easy to come by. For us, the difficulty is generally in getting anything more that. Now that I am at a certain stage in my life, I don't need or want "anything more".

 

I do agree, men sure get hostile with women who are fabulous, and choose not to 'settle.' It reeks havoc on this board alone. We are all then lumped into a group of, gold seeking, desperate low life tramps....

[veggirl]

 

Problem is women as long as shes somewhat cute or decent looking lives in a sheltered bubble in the dating world in her early years..she can sleep with hot men to inflate her ego and in her mind paint the picture that shes on the level of these hot guys..

 

Is this how you think a typical "somewhat cute or decent looking" 20something year old girl lives her life? Honestly? Bagging "hot men" every night to inflate her ego?

Maybe these "hot men" should stop sleeping with such mediocrity, I mean gosh certainly don't want a girl thinking she is attractive!!!

 

Her friends and family tell her how beautiful she is and what a catch she is even if its not true..so when she is faced with"settling" for a man in her league its a culture shock to her..

 

Is this also what you think happens? Us girls just go around shrieking how beautiful and amazing our homely friends are? Assuring them they are the most gorg girl when they are plain Jane?

[Brit]

Umm.. no one said that. No one said younger women all look like Victoria Secret models. We just said they look BETTER than older women. A woman who is average looking in her 20's will often be below average in her 30's. Simple as that.

 

Your 20's is usually when you look the best you'll ever look in your life.

 

Sorry you are bitter, your latest conquest turned you down, yet again, and now you decided that adolescent girls are your choice, when just weeks ago women in their 30s were your choice at hand......please amuse us more, next it will be Craig's list random bjs with men.

[veggirl]

Obviously that is what he thinks happens. Otherwise he wouldn't of wrote it.

 

Ah. He's a moron then. I was trying to give him the benefit of doubt

[FitChick]

I think it's a mistake for anyone to marry in their twenties. Most of them will be divorced in their forties. I think that accounts for the high divorce stats. If people waited those stats would drop.

[Anela]

That's not what the research says...

 

Do you agree that women are most beautiful at 31?

 

If you don't like that link, google it for yourself.

 

This is probably why women get pickier with age.

 

(oh no need to go off on a rant about how I've said this is because I'm an old woman, I'm clearly on the other side of the peak, this isn't my demographic )

 

I looked, and felt, great at 31/32/33. I would probably STILL look good, if it hadn't been for all of the loss, stress, bull****, broken heart(s) and bad health that I've been dealing with.

 

I know someone who looked her best in her late thirties, until she got her heart broken and had to deal with her own ill health (that's ongoing). She has said that she didn't realize how important her looks were - how much they helped her out in life - until they were gone.

[ThaWholigan]

I looked, and felt, great at 31/32/33. I would probably STILL look good, if it hadn't been for all of the loss, stress, bull****, broken heart(s) and bad health that I've been dealing with.

 

I know someone who looked her best in her late thirties, until she got her heart broken and had to deal with her own ill health (that's ongoing). She has said that she didn't realize how important her looks were - how much they helped her out in life - until they were gone.

Venus square Mars, Anela .

 

Your 40s will treat you well.

[Anela]

Venus square Mars, Anela .

 

Your 40s will treat you well.

 

Thank you for the reminder. I was going to ask something about Solar Returns in the astrology thread, but didn't get around to it. If I'd been able to workout regularly, I would have at least felt better, but my back and hips were giving me problems (and this has nothing to do with age, before the bitter brigade jumps in: I've had problems with my knees since the age of fourteen, and this came from something specific).

 

I've been using coconut oil all year, and still don't resemble a Polynesian goddess. ( ) It has helped me to feel better, though - it's helped with energy and physical pains, at least somewhat.

 

My mother loved turning 40, so I hope that I do, as well - if I make it. I didn't panic over turning 30. I really felt good about it.

[Sith Apprentice]

18-24- Her market value is at it's peak. Woman goes for hot guys.

 

25+- Her looks are fading. She goes out to the club and no longer gets the attention of the hot guys like she used to. All the hot guys want the 18-24 women. Hypergamy has hit the brick wall. She starts looking for an older beta provider.

Edited December 16, 2012 by Sith Apprentice

[veggirl]

18-24- Her market value is at it's peak. Woman goes for hot guys.

 

25+- Her looks are fading. She goes out to the club and no longer gets the attention of the hot guys like she used to. All the hot guys want the 18-24 women. Hypergamy has hit the brick wall. She starts looking for an older beta provider.

 

Not true. I'm over 25 (30 in a few months) and I get hit on all the time. Guarantee I'd never have to settle for the cranky dudes in here who are banking on being rich and getting 22 yr olds at 40 lol. I date guys within 2 yrs of my age. Never been left for a teenager yet. It's weird that I am still attractive in my old age I guess sorry your youth sucked and made you angry

Edited December 16, 2012 by veggirl

[FitChick]

By then she is no longer attractive to most quality men. So she BETTER become her own provider because she ain't gettin' no handouts from rich men like the hot 20-somethings.

 

Reality. Welcome to it.

 

Yeah, that's why forty-something Ellen Barkin, who isn't that attractive in my opinion, married billionaire Ron Perelman, them dumped him a few years later because he wanted her to retire from acting. Plenty of rich guys marry older women. You don't travel in those circles, so I wouldn't expect you to have heard of them.

[musemaj11]

Yeah, that's why forty-something Ellen Barkin, who isn't that attractive in my opinion, married billionaire Ron Perelman, them dumped him a few years later because he wanted her to retire from acting. Plenty of rich guys marry older women. You don't travel in those circles, so I wouldn't expect you to have heard of them.

Ellen Barkin is damn attractive in comparison to Ron Perelman who is ugly, fat, bald and short.

 

Anyway, she dumped him and rakes in millions in alimony.

 

Marriage is for stupid men ...

[Mrlonelyone]

Yeah...that or they learn to enjoy the company of their friends, family and children, their jobs, their hobbies...and the men they continue to involve themselves with but don't give their lives to.

 

That's a cute little theory you have there though. I'm sure it applies in at least 2% of the cases of women in this age group.

 

 

Just to hilite how flawed all that crap is. By their logic any biological male who has a child he dosen't pay for must be alpha. An alpha is a big, hunky, tanned, toned, smooth talking guy.

 

I've never ever been all of that...tanned and toned but more of a 36-24-36 hottie than a hunk when I was at my height.

 

Well there is a pretty good chance I have an illegitimate child. He's the spitting image of me. The mother wants me to have nothing to do with. Some other guy(s) are going to spend their time and energy on him. They are more stereotypically masculine and all that.

 

Not to mention having had a female teacher as one of my lovers in high school.

 

So what is it? Would that make me an alpha male even though I am out an transgendered which should disqualify me as such?

 

Or maybe life is more complex than a simple binary of "alpha" and "beta" males.

[FitChick]

FitChick actually shot herself in her own foot by using that example because Ellen Barkin is 11 YEARS YOUNGER than Ron Perelman.

 

Irrelevant. She was over 40 when they met. LeisureSuit said women over 30 can't attract rich men who all want hot twenty-somethings. As far as I know, all of Perelman's other wives were older than 30 as well. He has said he likes strong women and most of his wives seem to have had successful careers before and after they met him.

 

I suspect Leisure lives in the boondocks where both men and women over 30 are grandparents who aspire to be future reality stars.

[thatone]

So a lot of women stay entitled their whole lives..

 

Problem is women as long as shes somewhat cute or decent looking lives in a sheltered bubble in the dating world in her early years..she can sleep with hot men to inflate her ego and in her mind paint the picture that shes on the level of these hot guys..

 

Her friends and family tell her how beautiful she is and what a catch she is even if its not true..so when she is faced with"settling" for a man in her league its a culture shock to her..

 

Man get chewed up and spit out more..we are the ones who have to face the numerous initial rejections if we dont live up to some standard..

 

Our friends and family bust our balls about our looks and status so we know exactly where we stand at a pretty young age..

 

We are more battle tested and hardened by a certain age where some women still think their cinderella and prince charming is gonna sweep her off her feet..

 

Not gonna argue that there are self entitled women but as a man, I have never, not once, had any friend or family member try to belittle me about my appearance. That only happens to women.

[Eternal Sunshine]

Haha! I am over 30 and just walked in a train in my yoga pants...I would say 80% of the men of all ages turned to check me out.

[Mme. Chaucer]

Haha! I am over 30 and just walked in a train in my yoga pants...I would say 80% of the men of all ages turned to check me out.

 

Well, they weren't "quality men." Cause according to our expert here, you can't be attractive to "quality men" if you're over 30.

 

Reality. Welcome to it. Sorry.

[FitChick]

Quality men do not travel by train. Only by private helicopter.

[Lonely Ronin]

Quality men do not travel by train. Only by private helicopter.

 

A private helicopter, is way to hipster. Quality men only travel by private jet, & Rolls-Royce limos, anything else is beneath them.

[grkBoy]

Haha! I am over 30 and just walked in a train in my yoga pants...I would say 80% of the men of all ages turned to check me out.

 

Um...so where can we see that picture?

[veggirl]

Quality men do not travel by train. Only by private helicopter.

 

Exactly. And according to Leisureguy they have millions and millions in the bank and do not need to work (at 40).

 

I kinda wish *I* was a quality man!