An anouncement to all under 5'9

[Revolver]

Are you kidding me? This forum is full of men complaining and they do so as well in real life. There is no such phenomenon. Verzhen and other women who post about their problems here get the same treatment if not worse.

 

And those guys get crapped on everyday even if the thread is legitamate. Which is kindoff my point. I never said guys dont complain, I said guys complaining is looked down upon. We're not really supposed to show weakness or anytype of failure. And you have to look at why alot of men state their problems here, its because there's nowhere else to. 95% of the things I've heard men say here If I had that problem I could never say in a group of my male buddies, it would be embarrassing so it shouldn't be surprising some guys needing a place to vent.

 

 

On this website and in real life, men are pretty much told to

 

Shut up, Stop complaining, and just keep going.

 

There's a you need to "pull yourself up by your bootstaps" mentality i see when men state problems that I never see with women.

Edited December 15, 2012 by Revolver

[mesmerized]

And those guys get crapped on everyday even if the thread is legitamate. Which is kindoff my point. I never said guys dont complain, I said guys complaining is looked down upon. We're not really supposed to show weakness or anytype of failure. And you have to look at why alot of men state their problems here, its because there's nowhere else to. 95% of the things I've heard men say here If I had that problem I could never say in a group of my male buddies, it would be embarrassing so it shouldn't be surprising some guys needing a place to vent.

 

 

On this website and in real life, men are pretty much told to

 

Shut up, Stop complaining, and just keep going.

 

There's a you need to "pull yourself up by your bootstaps" mentality i see when men state problems that I never see with women.

 

Anyone who complains is looked down upon regardless of gender. You are not a woman and dont know what we go through. There is this wrong mentality that if you complain there must be something wrong with you and all you have to do is fix yourself and it certainly Is not always true.

 

I have quite a lot to complain about when it comes to dating and men. But I dont bother posting them on here because I know what kind of response I would get. In my experience, men are actually more outspoken about their issues because of the sense of entitlement they tend to have.

[Revolver]

This thread itself is like a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

 

"How dare you complain about your problems. Shut up, stop being bitter, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and just do it.":laugh:

 

I don't know whether its

 

A. We don't believe men have problems in dating, so they're lying when they say they do

Or

B. Even if I believe they have an issue, they have to suck it up and move on anyway.

[ThaWholigan]

This thread itself is like a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

 

"How dare you complain about your problems. Shut up, stop being bitter, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and just do it.":laugh:

 

I don't know whether its

 

A. We don't believe men have problems in dating, so they're lying when they say they do

Or

B. Even if I believe they have an issue, they have to suck it up and move on anyway.

That's because when it comes down to the crunch, man or woman, that's what we ALL have to do. I've known people who go through much worse things than "I have trouble getting laid" and they manage to smile everyday without fail or complaint.

 

I get that it's very frustrating and one must vent, hell there have been times I wanted to have a good moan when I was still a virgin and struggling. I can't begrudge a man for being upset that he's struggling to attract women or manage to deal with women who are attracted to him - these are problems I had myself. The trouble is when not only are you venting almost 24/7 but also insulting either men or women (or both) without fail then it becomes a "stop complaining and pull yourself together" thing.

[Pacman]

I can see why women hate short men.

 

Insecure bit*ches.

 

I'm 5'8. Get over it. Stop making these damn threads. You insecure short dudes make me look bad.

 

Go to the gym, bulk up.

 

Aesthetics.

 

Or you can keep whining about how short you are and how you don't laid

[silicone]

I can see why women hate short men.

 

Insecure bit*ches.

 

I'm 5'8. Get over it. Stop making these damn threads. You insecure short dudes make me look bad.

 

Go to the gym, bulk up.

 

Aesthetics.

 

Or you can keep whining about how short you are and how you don't laid

 

Why would you feel bad? You're not short, by my standards at least.

 

I've still only met one person shorter than me, (discounting my mother).

 

It's not as simple as going to the gym and bulking up.

 

The insecurity will remain even if you have bulked up.

[rocketman122]

Why would you feel bad? You're not short, by my standards at least.

 

I've still only met one person shorter than me, (discounting my mother).

 

It's not as simple as going to the gym and bulking up.

 

The insecurity will remain even if you have bulked up.

 

dont you have a GF? why are you insecure if youre getting laid? if anything getting sum should boost your confidence.

[somedude81]

Lol well skinny toned guys are generally not my type unless they're taller. I probably can't tell if they are ripped to shreds but I still can tell if they work out and are lean. I like a nice body on men so I notice and see little things.

 

How is this helping somedude? He needs to get noticed based on his body now that his height and face don't get enough attention. Working out and getting bigger will certainly increase his odds.

Because that is my body type, which I was talking about from the very start.

 

I could work out get a nice body, and you will never know unless my shirt is off.

 

BTW, I like how you mentioned height in there as well. And no, I don't wear super tight shirts.

[silicone]

dont you have a GF? why are you insecure if youre getting laid? if anything getting sum should boost your confidence.

 

I'm not insecure...

 

I got a girlfriend before I lost weight and started to bulk.

 

I actually started to bulk up after I garnered these "insecurities" - if that's what they can be called, or even an inferiority complex.

 

I still get random hugs from girls at work. I still get girls flirting with me, ok maybe more than before, but not significantly more.

[Lonely Ronin]

This thread itself is like a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

 

"How dare you complain about your problems. Shut up, stop being bitter, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and just do it.":laugh:

 

I don't know whether its

 

A. We don't believe men have problems in dating, so they're lying when they say they do

Or

B. Even if I believe they have an issue, they have to suck it up and move on anyway.

 

This is going to be an unpopular view point, but frankly I don't care. getting up set, or needing to talk about your issues is not the problem, it's the bitter, passive aggressive temper tantrums that are the problem. As the saying goes, only the strong survive, and not being able to get over the fact that you're short, is a big sign of weakness. Being short is nothing compared to some of the other hardships life is going to throw your way.

[PJKino]

People are entitled to their preferences even the fact that i think its pretty vain and shallow for some women to pick an acessory like a shoe over a potentially great guy to each his own

 

My only problem is the disdain some women have for short men,its just not that they arent attractd to them its the condescending way they look at short men how they feel their less manly or make them feel less feminine just being around them

 

A lot of these women who act like this arent all immature teneagers either a lot are grown women i ntheir 30's 40's and 50's,i just dont know why theyres that disdain by some women

[silicone]

This is going to be an unpopular view point, but frankly I don't care. getting up set, or needing to talk about your issues is not the problem, it's the bitter, passive aggressive temper tantrums that are the problem. As the saying goes, only the strong survive, and not being able to get over the fact that you're short, is a big sign of weakness. Being short is nothing compared to some of the other hardships life is going to throw your way.

 

Then why are you in this thread if you quite frankly do not care?

[Lonely Ronin]

Then why are you in this thread if you quite frankly do not care?

 

I think you need to re-read what I posted.

[silicone]

I think you need to re-read what I posted.

 

I oversimplified what I had meant to write, and for that, I apologise.

 

What you are seeing is a standard reaction. Shorter men are automatically marked as inferior, seen as weak etc.

 

It is no wonder that the pain that has accumulated will, at one point, expose itself in its audacious manner.

 

I can only speak for myself - I'm a very objective person, but inside I am a completely torn person. The issue of my height in relation to everyone else is the ultimate personal betrayal of trust - and nothing so far has been able to resolve this.

 

It has entered a point where I have begun to resent a lot of women. I have no trouble generated interest, appreciation and attention in myself, the pain I have gone through has garnered self-hate.

[Lonely Ronin]

I oversimplified what I had meant to write, and for that, I apologise.

 

What you are seeing is a standard reaction. Shorter men are automatically marked as inferior, seen as weak etc.

 

It is no wonder that the pain that has accumulated will, at one point, expose itself in its audacious manner.

 

I can only speak for myself - I'm a very objective person, but inside I am a completely torn person. The issue of my height in relation to everyone else is the ultimate personal betrayal of trust - and nothing so far has been able to resolve this.

 

It has entered a point where I have begun to resent a lot of women. I have no trouble generated interest, appreciation and attention in myself, the pain I have gone through has garnered self-hate.

 

Speaking in the most general sense, the number one issue I see on LS, is people who are not comfortable in their own skin. This goes for both men & women. This is the number one thing that limits most people in Life as far as I'm concerned. People who are aware of their limitations & advantages, usually do really well in all aspects of their lives.

 

At the very basic instinctive level, and with all other factors being equal, I would agree, smaller men are seen as inferior. However in the real world, nothing is ever equal. Someone's going to be smarter, someone's going to be better looking, someone's going to be more personable, etc.

 

If you focus on one limiting factor, and then maintain a resentment towards all women, because of the desires of a few, who are never going to be happy. This will have a knock on effect, what will only get worse over time.

 

Like Dirty Harry said, A man's got to know his limitations. Everyone's got them, they are just different.

[O'farrell]

This thread is getting off topic again. Lets get back to facts. As a NY poster said its rare/ Yes, its rare to see tall men dating vs average height men. This is because an estimated 15% of men are taller than 6 feet. This means that 85% of men are not "tall". A more realistic scenario is a woman thinking a man is 6feet when he is 5'10. Women don't do well with measurements.

[ThaWholigan]

This thread is getting off topic again. Lets get back to facts. As a NY poster said its rare/ Yes' date=' its rare to see tall men dating vs average height men. This is because an estimated 15% of men are taller than 6 feet. This means that 85% of men are not "tall". A more realistic scenario is a woman thinking a man is 6feet when he is 5'10. [b']Women don't do well with measurements.[/b]

In my experience, girls have kinda shown this to be somewhat true - at leas tin my limited experience. Both girls I've sexed thought my penis was much bigger than it actually is.

 

I've also been mistaken for being much taller than I am. Only once did someone think I was shorter (She guessed I was 5 foot 11 ). But I regularly get 6 foot 5 a lot, which is a couple of inches off (roughly 6 foot 3).

[Badsingularity]

Women don't do well with measurements.

 

I think women will often guess that a guy is a little taller than he is if he is a confident guy and will guess that he is a little shorter than he is if he is not confident in himself.

[Content]

Im near 5'8 at best and have never had a problem with women and im not an adonis by any stretch nor am i a 10 facially

 

I think the internet makes way bigger deal of it.and im not saying it isnt an issue to a lot of women ive heard plenty of women say they cant be with a man whos shorter or only slightly taller then them by even a few inches but who cares theyres tons of women out there

 

As far as women not knowing height it depends.If your significantly taller then a women shes not gonna know exact but women who youre only a few inches taller then will know

 

I have 5'9 on my license because at the time i honestly had no idea what my height was:p and my friends wife whos like 5'5 scolded me and said im only 5'7 and half maybe 5''8 and she was right but she acted like i comitted a crime lol

[iris219]

In my experience, girls have kinda shown this to be somewhat true - at leas tin my limited experience. Both girls I've sexed thought my penis was much bigger than it actually is.

 

I've also been mistaken for being much taller than I am. Only once did someone think I was shorter (She guessed I was 5 foot 11 ). But I regularly get 6 foot 5 a lot, which is a couple of inches off (roughly 6 foot 3).

 

I'm the opposite. I always underestimate these things. I always think penises are much smaller than they actually are and I always guess guys are much shorter than they really are.

 

I wonder what that says about me?

[silicone]

Speaking in the most general sense, the number one issue I see on LS, is people who are not comfortable in their own skin. This goes for both men & women. This is the number one thing that limits most people in Life as far as I'm concerned. People who are aware of their limitations & advantages, usually do really well in all aspects of their lives.

 

At the very basic instinctive level, and with all other factors being equal, I would agree, smaller men are seen as inferior. However in the real world, nothing is ever equal. Someone's going to be smarter, someone's going to be better looking, someone's going to be more personable, etc.

 

If you focus on one limiting factor, and then maintain a resentment towards all women, because of the desires of a few, who are never going to be happy. This will have a knock on effect, what will only get worse over time.

 

Like Dirty Harry said, A man's got to know his limitations. Everyone's got them, they are just different.

 

I agree with you - everyone has something they don't like about themselves. For me, it's the fact that I'm extremely short, and in turn, this may have an impact on my personal and potentially professional life.

 

I am comfortable with a lot of my insecurities - I have a lot of them. Me being short is the only thing that is left: I don't think I have enough to fight myself anymore.

 

I've always been told that I'm a very smart young man - my headmaster even said that he couldn't ask for me if I was dating his daughter (! - this actually freaked me out a bit). People at work tell me that I'm scarily intelligent - perhaps too intelligent - probably makes me a bit intimidating. But hey, I'm not going to change that.

 

Holding this against all women isn't healthy - however - nothing is going to change there until I am in peace with myself - something which has been degraded, battered and is deteriorating. It is something that counselling cannot think about - in fact counselling made id 10 times worse than it already was, and I'm not ready to trust counsellors again.

[Sun Devil]

Silicone, you mentioned that you have women flirt with you. That means that your height isint preventing women from being attracted. You also have a girlfriend. How are you not confident? If I were in your position, I would not be on these forums.

[GlendiexElsewhere]

i dig a tall dude but thats just a plus lol it not a deal breaker lol im 5'5 and 5'8 with heels ...

[silicone]

Silicone, you mentioned that you have women flirt with you. That means that your height isint preventing women from being attracted. You also have a girlfriend. How are you not confident? If I were in your position, I would not be on these forums.

 

The way I've worked for a long time (some people believe that I have multiple personality disorder), is that I've separated the public image and the private image of myself. I've separated my emotions from my operation. No one, thus far, has been able to tell that I'm going thru turmoil inside.

 

Even after the first breakup with that girl during the teenage years when she used me to get to someone else.

[Sun Devil]

Silicone, you did not answer my question. Why are you not confident on the inside. You have a girlfriend and mentioned that other women have flirted with you. Is it because you think thar women dont like short men, or are you worried about what society thinks of them?