truth_seeker Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Height is such a stupid topic. If you're 5'8, good looking, dress well, have charisma, you will do fine. You will do even better than a guy who is 6'0, unattractive, dresses bad and has no personality. You're telling me the 6'0 wins out over the 5'8 guy because of height only? That's bogus. 5
Lonely Ronin Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 You're telling me the 6'0 wins out over the 5'8 guy because of height only? That's bogus. The issue is the "short" guys look at a 6'0" + dude as if we Goliath and they are David. It's rather sad, because they see this insurmountable obstacle to their happiness, and just give up. The other thing they don't seem to understand the difference between Requirements, needs, & wants. I'm sure a lot of women want a tall man, but I bet very few require one. 2
truth_seeker Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I'm sure a lot of women want a tall man, but I bet very few require one. Just like men would prefer thin with a big bust and a nice ass.
GirlontheLam Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Of course they do. That's why 6 foot is a lot of women's standard. Taller usually means a couple of inches, not half a foot.
Lonely Ronin Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I really need to start proof reading my posts!
edgygirl Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 oh no! one more forum for me to become addicted to! They're here http://www.loveshack.org/forums/mind-body-soul/sexual-reproductive-health-practices/ Be warned though, you're going to see the same sort of defensiveness you see in the height and PUA threads. Honesty is, apparently, not something that is well-tolerated around these parts.
lovebug1234 Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 i'm 5'6 (female) and feel most comfortable with someone 6' tall, I'm dated someone 5'10 and was okay with it but he was really big and muscular. I also dated someone 5'6 who I cared about but I was so self conscious at the time it didn't last, I was also much younger then (19), though right now, I generally stay away from anyone under 5'10 because of the memories of feeling big around someone 5'6. I also want to note that I do have friends who are 5' tall and they okay with dating shorter guys.
somedude81 Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 FTR I have been rejected by numerous women in the past and height was a reason for some of them. So even you know that not being tall is a negative. Not much of a difference between 5'6 and 5'8 so quit blaming height for your lack of experience with women. You just said that you've been rejected by women because of your height and now you try to tell me that my height isn't important. Make up your mind.
Weezy1973 Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 1. Worrying about something you can't change is useless (like your height for instance). 2. No, seriously, worrying about something you can't change is useless (like other peoples' preferences for instance). 3. No matter how tall you are, your gf/wife will still get mad at you when you ignore what she's saying because the game's on. Height. Doesn't. Matter.
charlietheginger Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 im gonna say 5"9 is the middle ground.... Im 5"9 and seem to hold eye contact and Attract women in the 5"1 to 5"4 range And im fine with that. In my exp and from other guys a know The " spread " in height seems to Be women like a man 3~4 inches taller Then herself.... Examples a women 5"6 like a man 5"10 A women 5"9 likes a man 6"0 to 6"1 A women 5"4 likes a man 5"9 ish Now this is not the standard but from Friends and seeing couples out in Public seems to be the norm... If a man is to tall say 6"2 and a women 5"2 Women find it akward he has bend down For kisses and in conversations they can't Hold contact as she is always talking into his Stomach.... If a man and women are the same height Their is often the face to face staring that Can be awkward... When the man is 3 ~ 4 inches shorter the women and man can maintain eye Contact and kissing works well as tilts her head Up and he just tilts head forward.... Now relationships with extream height differences Exist. But next time your in a crowded public place Look around i bet the average spread is 3~4 Inches
Pyro Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 So even you know that not being tall is a negative. You just said that you've been rejected by women because of your height and now you try to tell me that my height isn't important. Make up your mind. It's not a negative because....... even though some women will reject you for it others will not. Again it is because of your attitude.
Lonely Ronin Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 It's not a negative because....... even though some women will reject you for it others will not. Again it is because of your attitude. Apparently it's a travesty, that any woman would reject a guy for any reason.
Pyro Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 Apparently it's a travesty, that any woman would reject a guy for any reason. Too much ego out there. Not saying that this applies to everyone but some of those who are into the whole PUA seems to believe that their 'skills' will universally work on any woman that they find attractive. Last time that I checked no one on this earth is a gift from God.
somedude81 Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) It's not a negative because....... even though some women will reject you for it others will not. So then it's a negative at worst, and a neutral at best. There simply are no positives to being shorter than average height. Again it is because of your attitude.Do you really think any of the girls I have communicated with ever thought I had a poor attitude? My "attitude" is irrelevant. I know that a very upbeat and charismatic attitude can attract women, and I don't have that, many men don't. But my attitude when I'm out and about, is no where near negative enough for it to be seen as a hindrance. Apparently it's a travesty, that any woman would reject a guy for any reason. No, the travesty is why every girl rejects a guy for a variety of reasons. The number one reason girls are turning me down is because they are not attracted to me. Physical attraction is a huge part of that, and height is a significant portion of physical attraction. What I hate the most, is that I'm basically not allowed to like any specific girls and think that somebody is pretty cool because 9 times out of 10 she'd turn me down and then I have to go to a back up girl that I think is kinda OK and even then 9 times out of 10 she'd turn me down as well. It sucks so freaking much. Once in my life I would be nice to like a girl and have her like me back. Edited December 15, 2012 by somedude81
Pyro Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 So then it's a negative at worst, and a neutral at best. There simply are no positives to being shorter than average height. Do you really think any of the girls I have communicated with ever thought I had a poor attitude? My "attitude" is irrelevant. I know that a very upbeat and charismatic attitude can attract women, and I don't have that, many men don't. But my attitude when I'm out and about, is no where near negative enough for it to be seen as a hindrance. Do you expect every single woman to either like you or not like you? Some have liked me and others have not. That is not a negative and it certainly isn't neutral (whatever the hell that means). As far as dating goes a shorter than average body can get toned and build muscle mass quicker than a tall lengthy body and there are plenty of women out there who have said that they prefer a guy at eye level or close to it than having to strain their neck and always having to look up at the guy. When you are out and about you may not see it or notice it but that doesn't mean that others may not as well. Try to be upbeat and care free some and see what happens.
mesmerized Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 So then it's a negative at worst, and a neutral at best. There simply are no positives to being shorter than average height. Do you really think any of the girls I have communicated with ever thought I had a poor attitude? My "attitude" is irrelevant. I know that a very upbeat and charismatic attitude can attract women, and I don't have that, many men don't. But my attitude when I'm out and about, is no where near negative enough for it to be seen as a hindrance. No, the travesty is why every girl rejects a guy for a variety of reasons. The number one reason girls are turning me down is because they are not attracted to me. Physical attraction is a huge part of that, and height is a significant portion of physical attraction. What I hate the most, is that I'm basically not allowed to like any specific girls and think that somebody is pretty cool because 9 times out of 10 she'd turn me down and then I have to go to a back up girl that I think is kinda OK and even then 9 times out of 10 she'd turn me down as well. It sucks so freaking much. Once in my life I would be nice to like a girl and have her like me back. How is your body? You know you can make that ond a killer if you want.
Mina Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 Seriously, height isn't important. My father is 5'8" (no one on my father's side of the family is taller than 5'8") and my mother is 5'10". If height is such an important thing to you, sorry but you're being pretty shallow.
somedude81 Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 Do you expect every single woman to either like you or not like you? Some have liked me and others have not. I'd expect at least a few girls to like me. So far none have. That is not a negative and it certainly isn't neutral (whatever the hell that means). Neutral it has no affect. If your height isn't a navigate meaning she doesn't care that you are short, and she's not more attracted because of you being short, it's neutral. As far as dating goes a shorter than average body can get toned and build muscle mass quicker than a tall lengthy body That is completely not true. Not at all. A taller body can hold more mass. Yes there are some short guys who are lucky enough to have the right genetics to get big (even though they weren't lucky enough to be tall) I certainly do not have the genes to get big. I worked out semi-seriously for several years a few years ago and at 5'6, 150 was able to squat 200 and dead-lift 220 as part of my sets. I didn't look skinny but certainly not buff. When you are out and about you may not see it or notice it but that doesn't mean that others may not as well. Try to be upbeat and care free some and see what happens. That is how I always am with girls. I love making girls smile and laugh. Have you seen my Facebook thread in the dating section? But what I have is just not enough. How is your body? You know you can make that ond a killer if you want. I need to lose some weight and build more muscle. But no matter what I do, it will never be a killer body. Yeah I'd look great at the beach, but walking around with clothes on, nobody would ever know. I'd only look thinner than I am now cause the gut (which isn't that bad anyways) would be gone.
Pyro Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 Neutral it has no affect. If your height isn't a navigate meaning she doesn't care that you are short, and she's not more attracted because of you being short, it's neutral. Experiences should be positive if you ever want to improve. For every strike out that you get you learn from it, which in turn makes those strike outs positive. That is completely not true. Not at all. A taller body can hold more mass. Yes it is true. I didn't say anything about which holds more. If you keep up with it you should see results. _____________________________
somedude81 Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 There are too many ways to fail. Trial and error is not a practical methodology.
mesmerized Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 I'd expect at least a few girls to like me. So far none have. Neutral it has no affect. If your height isn't a navigate meaning she doesn't care that you are short, and she's not more attracted because of you being short, it's neutral. That is completely not true. Not at all. A taller body can hold more mass. Yes there are some short guys who are lucky enough to have the right genetics to get big (even though they weren't lucky enough to be tall) I certainly do not have the genes to get big. I worked out semi-seriously for several years a few years ago and at 5'6, 150 was able to squat 200 and dead-lift 220 as part of my sets. I didn't look skinny but certainly not buff. That is how I always am with girls. I love making girls smile and laugh. Have you seen my Facebook thread in the dating section? But what I have is just not enough. I need to lose some weight and build more muscle. But no matter what I do, it will never be a killer body. Yeah I'd look great at the beach, but walking around with clothes on, nobody would ever know. I'd only look thinner than I am now cause the gut (which isn't that bad anyways) would be gone. Pffff, I dont need to see a man topless to know he has a hot body. Its very easy to spot when they wear the right cloth. The fact that you say that shows how a lot of things you say are excuses with no credibility.
somedude81 Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 Pffff, I dont need to see a man topless to know he has a hot body. Its very easy to spot when they wear the right cloth. The fact that you say that shows how a lot of things you say are excuses with no credibility. I did not say you can't spot when a guy has a hot body while wearing clothes. And you even narrowed it down more by saying the right clothes. Please try to understand what I wrote before you being to judge me.
MrCastle Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 I'd expect at least a few girls to like me. So far none have. Neutral it has no affect. If your height isn't a navigate meaning she doesn't care that you are short, and she's not more attracted because of you being short, it's neutral. That is completely not true. Not at all. A taller body can hold more mass. Yes there are some short guys who are lucky enough to have the right genetics to get big (even though they weren't lucky enough to be tall) I certainly do not have the genes to get big. I worked out semi-seriously for several years a few years ago and at 5'6, 150 was able to squat 200 and dead-lift 220 as part of my sets. I didn't look skinny but certainly not buff. That is how I always am with girls. I love making girls smile and laugh. Have you seen my Facebook thread in the dating section? But what I have is just not enough. I need to lose some weight and build more muscle. But no matter what I do, it will never be a killer body. Yeah I'd look great at the beach, but walking around with clothes on, nobody would ever know. I'd only look thinner than I am now cause the gut (which isn't that bad anyways) would be gone. It really depends on the individual girl and what she likes. I've tried bulking up, it just doesn't work for me. Remember, 5'6 or 5'7 or whatever, any height, doesn't look the same on everybody. For example, James Dean was 5'7, but he was almost all legs, so it gave the appearance he was taller than he was. My legs aren't that long, and it feels like most of me is torso, and when I bulk up, it makes me look rounder, and stockier. What works for me is being lean. I have a small face and any amount of weight gain, even as little as 5 pounds, makes my face look chubbier. The leaner and skinnier I am, the better. Lately I've been slacking and I'm at 151, when I should be 144 or so, but it feels like so much more. If my frame was different maybe I'd look different, or do things differently, but for my frame, being lean is more attractive, and have gotten more looks being leaner than I did with more fat/muscle.
Author O'farrell Posted December 15, 2012 Author Posted December 15, 2012 Let us divert this thread back to its intended purpose. Did you know that the average man is 5'9? Did you know that most couples in real life are about 3-4 inches different? I live in downtown san francisco. Unless someone here if from new York I don't see how they can see more couples. I read somewhere that girls prefer medium height men the most attractive. (5'9-5'11) I know there are going to be some women who will say they prefer tall on the internet.However, maybe these women aren't feminine enough in the real world so they need a super tall guy to make them feel feminine? Maybe the heightists the internet is flooded by are overweight, tall themselves, or have huge feet? lol
mesmerized Posted December 15, 2012 Posted December 15, 2012 I did not say you can't spot when a guy has a hot body while wearing clothes. And you even narrowed it down more by saying the right clothes. Please try to understand what I wrote before you being to judge me. Lol you did say women can't tell and that you will only look thinner, that's bs. Right cloth means not wearing baggy cloth. Any shirt that fits you right will show that you have a good body, some more than others. This is something you can easily change about yourself yet you prefer to whine about being short. I love tall men but even I take a short fit guy over a tall fat or lanky guy any day.
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