Id love to feel what its like to be good looking for a day

[rocketman122]

If you're fat that will do you in. You can be fat and dress well and still not have a chance. Based on personal experience.

 

its not this or that. its a few things together. but dressing well and being fat will be better than dressing like a bum and being fat, no?

 

men and woman are attracted to the same things. we want someone thats attractive, fit, dresses nice (to start with). both sexes are equally shallow.

 

if a woman chooses between 2 men, the muscular guy will get chosen more often over the average body joe. but the same situation where a man will choose between 2 woman having the same body, it wont matter much. dont let the woman fool you, they see the muscles and think about that V going down to the salami. muscles makes a big difference. you dont have to be huge but you need some mass to stand out and get the immediate attention. when I go to the train station to see my GF, I do my walk and you see woman do a double take while they have their heads buried in their phones. they give me a head to toe check. they look and its very obvious. I never had it before training. and the bigger I get the hotter the girls I attract.

[Vercetti]

Oh jeez, being fair and honest, you really think a sport coat is going to work magic if some guy looks like he belongs up in a bell tower somewhere? Seriously?

 

[/left]

 

No I don't think there is a magic sport-coat or blazer. Yet I do think a guy that can be stylish and classy as possible will feel better and experience better dating. Does a average girl in sweat pants a baggy t-**** messed up hair acting awkward do as much for you as a average girl that just got a makeover her nails done legs waxed sporting a push-up bra a killer skirt and some high heels with some beautifully highlighted hair acting graceful? Just look at some Ke$ha pictures with and without makeup and tell me glamour doesn't go a long way. Troll with a bespoke suit is gonna look better then a troll without a bespoke suit. I've seen " ugly " guys with women great looking guys failed to land and they did not use money or drugs to get them. We can always do better, there are freaking drag queens that look better then lots of women. Please don't tell me in a world where men can look better then women a guy down on his looks cant jack up his game.

[rocketman122]

No I don't think there is a magic sport-coat or blazer. Yet I do think a guy that can be stylish and classy as possible will feel better and experience better dating. Does a average girl in sweat pants a baggy t-**** messed up hair acting awkward do as much for you as a average girl that just got a makeover her nails done legs waxed sporting a push-up bra a killer skirt and some high heels with some beautifully highlighted hair acting graceful? Just look at some Ke$ha pictures with and without makeup and tell me glamour doesn't go a long way. Troll with a bespoke suit is gonna look better then a troll without a bespoke suit. I've seen " ugly " guys with women great looking guys failed to land and they did not use money or drugs to get them. We can always do better, there are freaking drag queens that look better then lots of women. Please don't tell me in a world where men can look better then women a guy down on his looks cant jack up his game.

 

bravo! guys put some effort in to look good. after you do these things and then dont succeed anymore than you did before, come back and complain.

[IT Geek]

 

About <1% of the advances we get are from genuine good guys. Who definitely still want to have sex with us but they won't pressure us into it.

 

That's because we've been rejected so many times by "hot" women that we feel there's no need in trying again just to face another embarrassing moment.

[phineas]

first one sounds iffy. if she doesnt give you an alternative day and then calls for lunch. thats weird. yes many woman wrote theyre looking for a serious relationship when I was OLD. but most of them dont really know what they want. I can envision what kind of relationship I have, why cant they?

good for you man. I hope it goes well for you. fingers crossed buddy. get yours.

 

eh, I have a history with the first one plus we work in the same building and i've known her for yrs.

Let's just say it's amazing how a woman who flaked on you/blew you off does a 180 when you drop a ton of weight & get in shape.

 

But the reality is as far as looks go i'm above average when compared to what is out there in my age group & while i'm not ballin, i do ok & since I was fat I cultivated a funny outgoing personality that cracks women up.

 

Also, there is a female member on this forum just a few yrs older than me who moved to my city (I forget who she is, she doesn't post much) & posted when she met with the local match-maker she was told she moved to the wrong city. LOL!

 

Which tells me women looking for a real relationship have very few real options around here & i've learned to accept a little games, give a little chase to show my true intentions & also guage whether their really interested or wasting my time.

 

The first one is interested. This may change after we get together of course but as of now she has confirmed twice we are getting together to go shopping. If she cancels I move on.

 

The PhD woman asked me in email about meeting just before I was planning to. shows interest to me also.

 

I'm taking my time here with both & just going with it to see what happens.

[ThaWholigan]

I'd like to know how it would feel too to be honest. I have good looking friends, and most of them do pretty well as you'd expect.

 

I might see if I can become a model just for the lulz to see if I can do it

 

*starts training*

[ImperfectionisBeauty]

Its stressful believe me lol just kidding idk be happy with yourself (I know much easier said than done)

[somedude81]

About <1% of the advances we get are from genuine good guys. Who definitely still want to have sex with us but they won't pressure us into it.

And you turned them down right?

 

 

Yeah we don't try very hard because we're used to and expect to get rejected.

[SteveC80]

Oh greznog. Who says? Yeah sometimes a gal needs to be turned out by a big sexy hunk who probably can't do anything better than mindless sex. Just like men like having sex with barbies who can't string together a sentence without using like like and um like.

 

But do i want that mans children? Hell no. Would i ever consider him as a real partner. Hell no. We are ALL influenced by our hormones. Don't forget, you're half lady too . Let's not keep making the same ignorant statements for attention okay? Thanks honey. I hope whoever chose the sexy guy over you gets what they deserve. But it wasn't me. Or women on this forum.

 

You're judgements of hot guys is ignorant and nothing more then a defense mechanism because dating a guy with tons of options makes you insecure

 

Looks have nothing to do with personality or character you should go for men who you like and get you WET on SIGHT

 

Ive seen too many women go for guys they think are safe because theyre not that good looking and wont cheat and will be stable for them emotionally and give them the family they want.

 

Then they meet a guy who has the same good character qualties as their husband but it much hotter and turns thme on more and they cheat..

 

Ive been the guy women tried to cheat with..even friends wives have tried that with me because we connected plus they find me sexier then their husbands.

 

If you settle for an blah looking guy because of your insecurities its gonna bite both of you in the end when your lustful needs arent met

Edited December 15, 2012 by SteveC80

[Esoteric Elf]

get muscular

People have genetic limits; some will have an excruciatingly difficult time gaining muscle, let alone being muscular.

 

dress nice, style your hair

Some people have not much money to spend on clothes and hair, and, even if they do, their sense of fashion may induce laughs rather than admiration.

 

youre already half way there

Not quite. One still has not only to initiate a relationship, but sustain one. The point of my previous rejections sums up to this: facade. That is, all this may be building oneself up to be better, yes, but in the process it may be also creating a false persona, for what? For a woman. That is, the man is forcing himself to change and put on a show in order to get women. Do women have to do this same stuff to garner men's attention? No, in fact there are awareness programs for women that proclaim, "love who you are!" (programs I readily throw my support behind), but what of men? Can women love us for us or not?

 

Improvement is one thing; doing things (even if positive) with one purpose only in mind is a totally different matter.

[phineas]

People have genetic limits; some will have an excruciatingly difficult time gaining muscle, let alone being muscular.

 

That's the lazy person's answer. Funny how all the overweight & skrawny people that seem to make up this forum all believe their bodies somehow don't follow the rules of basic physiology.

 

If you arn't gaining muscle you are not lifting heavy enough weight & not eating enough calories. Period.

 

If you are not losing weight you are eating too much. Period.

 

nobody says you need to look like Chris Hemsworth in Thor.

Brad pitt in fight club has a body just about anyone can get if they bothered to put the time & effort into it.

But people don't want to. They'd rather whine on an internet forum that they can't gain muscle or lose fat.

 

Some people have not much money to spend on clothes and hair, and, even if they do, their sense of fashion may induce laughs rather than admiration.

 

90% of my clothes are bought at thrift stores & I pay 12$ / month plus tip to have someone run #3 clipper over my balding melon.

 

Not quite. One still has not only to initiate a relationship, but sustain one. The point of my previous rejections sums up to this: facade. That is, all this may be building oneself up to be better, yes, but in the process it may be also creating a false persona, for what? For a woman. That is, the man is forcing himself to change and put on a show in order to get women. Do women have to do this same stuff to garner men's attention? No, in fact there are awareness programs for women that proclaim, "love who you are!" (programs I readily throw my support behind), but what of men? Can women love us for us or not?

 

Improvement is one thing; doing things (even if positive) with one purpose only in mind is a totally different matter.

 

Take care of the first two & women WILL want to talk to you. Spend some time talking to women, get rid of your "i'm not good enough attitude", you will become more confident & eventually you will become someone different.

Someone attractive that women will be interested in.

[iris219]

If the OP was good looking for a day, I think he'd be surprised by how similar it is to his life now.

[rocketman122]

People have genetic limits; some will have an excruciatingly difficult time gaining muscle, let alone being muscular.

 

 

Some people have not much money to spend on clothes and hair, and, even if they do, their sense of fashion may induce laughs rather than admiration.

 

 

Not quite. One still has not only to initiate a relationship, but sustain one. The point of my previous rejections sums up to this: facade. That is, all this may be building oneself up to be better, yes, but in the process it may be also creating a false persona, for what? For a woman. That is, the man is forcing himself to change and put on a show in order to get women. Do women have to do this same stuff to garner men's attention? No, in fact there are awareness programs for women that proclaim, "love who you are!" (programs I readily throw my support behind), but what of men? Can women love us for us or not?

 

Improvement is one thing; doing things (even if positive) with one purpose only in mind is a totally different matter.

 

 

reminds of those people I work with who constantly ask me "so whats good for the chest and arms" and I tell them when they get a gym membership, I will answer any question about training and diet they want. because they talk but dont do.

 

instead of saying you cant, you should ask how you can. you can do it. me and Phineas are both examples who changed their physiques and are seeing the effects with woman. we both do the same things to score with women. bottom line, its scoring with the woman.

 

yes, the effort is also to attract the opposite sex but doing these things also helps with self confidence which helps in all aspects of your life. you feel good about yourself. you have more energy. youre healthier. you have a framework and youre disciplined with a lot of other things as well. these are not bad things.

 

its not easy though. you have to eat and be strict with yourself. you must have determination and be consistent. not many can do it. thats better for us who do.

[Esoteric Elf]

I like how you phineas and rocketman122, since I mentioned the plight and situation of what some males experience, assume some sort of association. For informative purposes, I love working out. I bench nearly twice my weight and have a six pack. I used to be thin before I became a sort of weightlifting fanatic. I was a certified powerlifting judge last season and plan to return this season; powerlifting is a sport I love. Now, on to the replies.

 

That's the lazy person's answer. Funny how all the overweight & skrawny people that seem to make up this forum all believe their bodies somehow don't follow the rules of basic physiology.

 

If you arn't gaining muscle you are not lifting heavy enough weight & not eating enough calories. Period.

 

If you are not losing weight you are eating too much. Period.

 

nobody says you need to look like Chris Hemsworth in Thor.

Brad pitt in fight club has a body just about anyone can get if they bothered to put the time & effort into it.

But people don't want to. They'd rather whine on an internet forum that they can't gain muscle or lose fat.

That is an answer that has dealt with a variety of people who have everything from genetic disorders to gastrula problems. I myself am muscular and decently powerfully built with a six-pack and a bench nearly twice my weight, but just because I can do this, does not necessarily mean others can. What of lack of myostatin-related hypertrophy, muscle atrophy and muscular dystrophy (and its sub-related disorders)?

 

Pineas, I want to ask you a question, are you acquainted with exercise physiology, or are you merely issuing forth claims, regardless if they be outliers. If you and I and rocketman122 can get large muscles, congratulations for us, but there are others out there, and plenty of others with perhaps something hindering progress.

 

reminds of those people I work with who constantly ask me "so whats good for the chest and arms" and I tell them when they get a gym membership, I will answer any question about training and diet they want. because they talk but dont do.

 

instead of saying you cant, you should ask how you can. you can do it. me and Phineas are both examples who changed their physiques and are seeing the effects with woman. we both do the same things to score with women. bottom line, its scoring with the woman.

 

yes, the effort is also to attract the opposite sex but doing these things also helps with self confidence which helps in all aspects of your life. you feel good about yourself. you have more energy. youre healthier. you have a framework and youre disciplined with a lot of other things as well. these are not bad things.

 

its not easy though. you have to eat and be strict with yourself. you must have determination and be consistent. not many can do it. thats better for us who do.

By the way, I love chest; it is my favorite muscle. My goal is to be able to hide my hand in my chest from a side view...nearly there.

 

Of course you can say what you can and can't, but you should also ask why? Why am I not in a relationships and so forth. Take me for instance. I am already what you described (except for maybe the hairstyle bit, since I am unaccustomed to what is a la mode with this), but I do wear nice clothing everyday (I kind of have to as a manager) and so forth.

 

I am all with you on the making one feel better. Working out is like a feel-good drug (go figure thanks to dopamine release) that gives one a minor withdrawal when one hasn't worked out. That being said, you kind of bypassed my latter quote about gender acceptance. Not that you must comment on it, but thoughts along these lines are appreciated.

 

By the way, what lift do you enjoy doing most? And do you lift for muscles or for power?

Edited December 15, 2012 by Esoteric Elf

[phineas]

I like how you phineas and rocketman122, since I mentioned the plight and situation of what some males experience, assume some sort of association. For informative purposes, I love working out. I bench nearly twice my weight and have a six pack. I used to be thin before I became a sort of weightlifting fanatic. I was a certified powerlifting judge last season and plan to return this season; powerlifting is a sport I love. Now, on to the replies.

 

 

That is an answer that has dealt with a variety of people who have everything from genetic disorders to gastrula problems. I myself am muscular and decently powerfully built with a six-pack and a bench nearly twice my weight, but just because I can do this, does not necessarily mean others can. What of lack of myostatin-related hypertrophy, muscle atrophy and muscular dystrophy (and its sub-related disorders)?

 

Pineas, I want to ask you a question, are you acquainted with exercise physiology, or are you merely issuing forth claims, regardless if they be outliers. If you and I and rocketman122 can get large muscles, congratulations for us, but there are others out there, and plenty of others with perhaps something hindering progress.

 

 

By the way, I love chest; it is my favorite muscle. My goal is to be able to hide my hand in my chest from a side view...nearly there.

 

Of course you can say what you can and can't, but you should also ask why? Why am I not in a relationships and so forth. Take me for instance. I am already what you described (except for maybe the hairstyle bit, since I am unaccustomed to what is a la mode with this), but I do wear nice clothing everyday (I kind of have to as a manager) and so forth.

 

I am all with you on the making one feel better. Working out is like a feel-good drug (go figure thanks to dopamine release) that gives one a minor withdrawal when one hasn't worked out. That being said, you kind of bypassed my latter quote about gender acceptance. Not that you must comment on it, but thoughts along these lines are appreciated.

 

By the way, what lift do you enjoy doing most? And do you lift for muscles or for power?

 

blah,blah blah..."I bench twice my weight & have a 6-pack" LOL!

Spoon pic & videos or it didn't happen.

 

I can provide photographic proof of me being a fat-ass & no longer being a fat-ass.

also, never said I had "big" muscles.

My arms are not even 15" flexed.

I can probably bench 200lbs a few times & I weigh just under 170 at 5'8"

I don't even have a 6 pack.

I got 2 pack.

But, i'm in better shape than most men my age & you don't need big muscles or a 6 pack to get women.

And that's really the point.

In a society where everyone is getting fatter & fatter just hitting the gym & not being overweight is all it takes to stand out in the crowd.

 

by the way,

 

Calories in/calories out.

You eat too much you get fat.

You eat less you stop being fat.

 

You eat more while breaking down your muscles they build back stronger & you get bigger.

 

You don't eat enough while lifting nothing happens.

 

The average person doesn't have genetic disorders that prevent them from having a nice body.

 

gastrula /gas·tru·la/ (gas´troo-lah) the embryo in the stage following the blastula or blastocyst; the simplest type consists of two layers of cells, the ectoderm and endoderm, which have invaginated to form the archenteron and an opening, the blastopore. In human embryos the gastrula stage occurs during the third week, as the embryonic disc becomes trilaminar, establishing the ectoderm, mesoderm, and endoderm.

 

and I have no clue what a certain stage of an embryo has to do with personal fitness. LULWAT?!?!?

 

essentially:

 

physiology (fz-l-j)

The scientific study of an organism's vital functions, including growth and development, the absorption and processing of nutrients, the synthesis and distribution of proteins and other organic molecules, and the functioning of different tissues, organs, and other anatomic structures. Physiology studies the normal mechanical, physical, and biochemical processes of animals and plants.

 

provide a scan of your degree & credentials & then you can call me out & challenge me on whether I know what i'm talking about or not.

 

Until then you are just another layman on the internet like me.

[silicone]

blah,blah blah..."I bench twice my weight & have a 6-pack" LOL!

Spoon pic & videos or it didn't happen.

 

I can provide photographic proof of me being a fat-ass & no longer being a fat-ass.

also, never said I had "big" muscles.

My arms are not even 15" flexed.

I can probably bench 200lbs a few times & I weigh just under 170 at 5'8"

I don't even have a 6 pack.

I got 2 pack.

But, i'm in better shape than most men my age & you don't need big muscles or a 6 pack to get women.

And that's really the point.

In a society where everyone is getting fatter & fatter just hitting the gym & not being overweight is all it takes to stand out in the crowd.

 

by the way,

 

Calories in/calories out.

You eat too much you get fat.

You eat less you stop being fat.

 

You eat more while breaking down your muscles they build back stronger & you get bigger.

 

You don't eat enough while lifting nothing happens.

 

The average person doesn't have genetic disorders that prevent them from having a nice body.

 

gastrula /gas·tru·la/ (gas´troo-lah) the embryo in the stage following the blastula or blastocyst; the simplest type consists of two layers of cells, the ectoderm and endoderm, which have invaginated to form the archenteron and an opening, the blastopore. In human embryos the gastrula stage occurs during the third week, as the embryonic disc becomes trilaminar, establishing the ectoderm, mesoderm, and endoderm.

 

and I have no clue what a certain stage of an embryo has to do with personal fitness. LULWAT?!?!?

 

essentially:

 

physiology (fz-l-j)

The scientific study of an organism's vital functions, including growth and development, the absorption and processing of nutrients, the synthesis and distribution of proteins and other organic molecules, and the functioning of different tissues, organs, and other anatomic structures. Physiology studies the normal mechanical, physical, and biochemical processes of animals and plants.

 

provide a scan of your degree & credentials & then you can call me out & challenge me on whether I know what i'm talking about or not.

 

Until then you are just another layman on the internet like me.

 

Cutting and bulking simultaneously feels like a damn exact measurement, just like in chemistry, where if you're 1ml over, you go over the stoichiometric point, you get screwed.

Edited December 15, 2012 by silicone

[Mme. Chaucer]

But when an attractive guy comes along, they'll drop their panties in seconds

 

Well, don't you think that when people are down for casual sex they'd like to have it with the most attractive partner possible? Is there a problem with that?

[phineas]

Well, don't you think that when people are down for casual sex they'd like to have it with the most attractive partner possible? Is there a problem with that?

 

If i'm going to have sex with someone & never see them again i'd prefer it was the less attractive of my options.

[IT Geek]

its not this or that. its a few things together. but dressing well and being fat will be better than dressing like a bum and being fat, no?

 

Only difference is that your wallet will be lighter. Ugly can be overcome by clothes and style. Nothing except losing the weight can overcome being fat when it comes to attracting the opposite sex.

[Esoteric Elf]

lol, I like your posting style phineas. I admit I am painfully shy in real life and an introvert, but online I post with a sort of defensive style, not unlike yours.

blah,blah blah..."I bench twice my weight & have a 6-pack" LOL!

Spoon pic & videos or it didn't happen.

I would only be too happy to oblige. Is there a PM feature on this site? I would rather not post images of myself publically, but if I must I must. Is that you in your avatar pic? I will assume it is. Decent tone indeed

 

The average person doesn't have genetic disorders that prevent them from having a nice body.

Yeah, I would certainly agree with you on that one. No one is sure to what extent muscular disorders are prevalent, as many of them go undiagnosed. I would certainly agree though, that they are more uncommon than not, but who knows? I don't. But as to those who do suffer from those...they should not be ignored.

 

gastrula /gas·tru·la/ (gas´troo-lah) the embryo in the stage following the blastula or blastocyst; the simplest type consists of two layers of cells, the ectoderm and endoderm, which have invaginated to form the archenteron and an opening, the blastopore. In human embryos the gastrula stage occurs during the third week, as the embryonic disc becomes trilaminar, establishing the ectoderm, mesoderm, and endoderm.

 

and I have no clue what a certain stage of an embryo has to do with personal fitness. LULWAT?!?!?

I nearly laughed out loud when I saw my mistake. New Windows 8 Operating System does automatic corrections for you, even if you don't want them. I meant gastric problems. My pediatrician once gave his personal experience about after-squat effects he suffered: one of which was throwing up after every workout.

[IT Geek]

I know. There are not enough hot women to be with every male. Most men will fail, but you have something that sets you apart from the rest of men. But you don't use it, understand women love men for the security they offer. Security is either a lot of money or smooth words. That's it. That is what women are after. You are making the mistake of not using your money to get the hot women.

 

I don't want a hot woman. I want the "average looking" girl next door type with geeky glasses.

 

And once again, I don't want her to like me because I can offer monetary security. I'd rather her like me for ME before she knows about that.

[iris219]

I don't want a hot woman. I want the "average looking" girl next door type with geeky glasses.

 

And once again, I don't want her to like me because I can offer monetary security. I'd rather her like me for ME before she knows about that.

 

That's unrealistic. I would never say that I would rather a guy like me for me before he sees that I'm pretty. I mean, I guess that would be nice, but it's not going to happen. In the dating world, you have to play to your strengths and if being able to offer financial security is one of them, it would behoove you to offer that upfront.

 

Make it rain, ITG.

[Imported]

Only difference is that your wallet will be lighter. Ugly can be overcome by clothes and style. Nothing except losing the weight can overcome being fat when it comes to attracting the opposite sex.

 

Well then lose the weight. Don't tell me your excuses. Being overweight is 100% correctable. You only have yourself to blame for being fat and even more so for not changing it. I read your post about losing weight, good. But you need to stop with crying about women not being in to fat guys, wtf were you expecting.

[IT Geek]

That's unrealistic. I would never say that I would rather a guy like me for me before he sees that I'm pretty. I mean, I guess that would be nice, but it's not going to happen. In the dating world, you have to play to your strengths and if being able to offer financial security is one of them, it would behoove you to offer that upfront.

 

Make it rain, ITG.

 

Then how do I know they're not in it for the money? I may as well just pay various women to date me when I feel like going out. It would be cheaper in the long run.

[IT Geek]

Well then lose the weight. Don't tell me your excuses. Being overweight is 100% correctable. You only have yourself to blame for being fat and even more so for not changing it. I read your post about losing weight, good. But you need to stop with crying about women not being in to fat guys, wtf were you expecting.

 

I'm not crying. I've accepted that I'm undateable and probably will be for life since I pretty much have a non-generalized SA with women I'm interested in. I wouldn't know how to start up a conversation with them even if I was at a normal weight and would be deathly afraid to anyway. I'm just making observations from my POV.