USMCHokie Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 All these efforts are worthless when there is a naturally pretty girl standing by her even though she is wearing no make up, plain clothes and pale skin. After being out here and seeing most women who actually don't wear any makeup with a few that do, I can definitely tell who is wearing makeup and who isn't... I can confidently say that a vast majority of women you see while you're out and about will have makeup on. It's just that some women have decent skill with makeup and it will appear that they aren't wearing any makeup and that they're "naturally pretty." Until you're immersed in an environment where women really are not wearing make up, you won't be able to tell. There's a marked difference.
Brit Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 It is much easier to be a very good looking man than woman. People tend to whip out the magnifying glass, and attempt to knock pegs down, knock a person, finding fault, to make themselves feel better. There are the superficial perks of being treated better by strangers, in helping you first.......passerby comments on just your looks, but on a more personal level, others will forever attempt to downgrade you, hurt you, in an attempt to veil or heighten their low self esteem.
Tara247 Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I wish i could see how it is to be a good looking guy for a day to see how much easier it is to attract women your attracted to.. to get their attention easier have women openly lust after you physically instead of having to get a girl to like you in spite of your looks etc Im not saying its the end all be all but if youre good looking as long as youre not socially reatrded its gotta be a good feeling when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex and getting positive responses before you even say a word Sweetie, you can fix yourself up. You can even save up for cosmetic surgery procedures if you feel you need that.
Necromancer Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 It is much easier to be a very good looking man than woman. People tend to whip out the magnifying glass, and attempt to knock pegs down, knock a person, finding fault, to make themselves feel better. There are the superficial perks of being treated better by strangers, in helping you first.......passerby comments on just your looks, but on a more personal level, others will forever attempt to downgrade you, hurt you, in an attempt to veil or heighten their low self esteem. To be good looking as a man is 95% genetics, you know that dressing certain way and lifting won't make you attractive unless you where born with good face genetics. Women can wear make up, it easir for them to look good.
Necromancer Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I am assuming he is talking about something you can't overcome with all the efforts. I totally understand when I look at other women. They think getting a tan will make them look pretty They think wearing a nice clothes will make them look pretty They think wearing a good make up will make them look pretty They think working out will make them look pretty You think I am dumb enough not to see through the 'cover'? All these efforts are worthless when there is a naturally pretty girl standing by her even though she is wearing no make up, plain clothes and pale skin. The truth has been spoken /thread. Lifting and good clothes won't matter if you are vs naturally handsome man and he dresses like a bumm.
USMCHokie Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 It is much easier to be a very good looking man than woman. I think there are more good looking women out there than good looking men. This may be attributed to the fact that media portrays a much wider range of looks for women as good looking...or that men are sexually interested in a wider range of women. So when there's more good looking women out there, it counts a lot less to be one of them.
Tara247 Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 The truth has been spoken /thread. Lifting and good clothes won't matter if you are vs naturally handsome man and he dresses like a bumm. Hon, you're not helping the Op. Please stop.
USMCHokie Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 you would be surprised, but a lot of women and girls don't really like good-looking guys. They think they are cheaters and although girls are attracted to them, not all girls want to have serious relationships with handsome guys. But that won't stop them from dating the good looking guys. They still need to establish their own sense of physical attractiveness and social value. You're only as attractive as what you can attract. 1
Pacman Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 The truth has been spoken /thread. Lifting and good clothes won't matter if you are vs naturally handsome man and he dresses like a bumm. This so much. I have a friend who doesn't go to the gym, can go to a bar wearing a hoodie and sweat pants and I'm 100% sure a girl will approach him and say hi. I go to the gym, wear some tight clothing, go to the bar and oh WAIT. A girl will come approach me as well. Now I may not be able to get a girl wearing sweat pants and a hoodie but my chances increase when I go to the gym and wear nice some tight clothing. Lifting and good clothes even up the battlefield for us cute guys against those genetically fortuned handsome man
Revolver Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 People who are really attractive tend to have many haters, especially girls.
phineas Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 why one day? you can be that person every day. go to the gym. get muscular, dress nice, style your hair, have excellent hygiene and youre already half way there. even if you dont have the best face but youre fit (im not talking about being skinny and ripped. get muscular means at minimum weighing your height -im 183cm and weigh 95kg)and dress well, you will still be able to do well to attract women. look at seal. he's one of the ugliest fccks around but he always dresses well and he has sex appeal. to hold them, its up to you and the gift of gab. listen, there's no secret here. woman are attracted to the same things men are. its very simple. if the person is a fat lazy slob who sits in front of the tv and wears tshirts with pringles oil stains and crumbs on the shirt, youre going to have a hard time. not to bring any guy down, but shorter guys will have a harder time. just being honest here. I was at a POF meet last night & a dude that literally looked like George McFly from back to the future was there in a suit & overcoat & the more attractive women (which were about average) were talking to him quite a bit. It really surprised me. Granted he was in the 50yr range and skinny so he did stand out from the guys with beer bellies. But still, I seriously doubt he goes around with the attitude "I wish I was good looking....."
phineas Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I'd be curious to experience this too... Sure, grooming, style, and fitness will help, but it can only do so much. Genetics is a powerful force... Genetics is a powerful force I agree. But I will say this, i've never considered myself more than average in looks & my clothes usually make or break me. But being in shape at my age & dressing well puts me in the above average looks compared to my over weight peers. I get attention from women now at 41 who I considered out of my league most of my life. Too bad their lives are so f'd up by the time they hit 40 I don't even want to get involved with them even for FWB's. Doesn't really help you younger guys struggling but I really think adopting the fitness lifestyle & maintaining it can only help you to be more attractive to women even though it may not make you more good looking in the face.
AlexDP Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I wish i could see how it is to be a good looking guy for a day to see how much easier it is to attract women your attracted to.. to get their attention easier have women openly lust after you physically instead of having to get a girl to like you in spite of your looks etc Im not saying its the end all be all but if youre good looking as long as youre not socially reatrded its gotta be a good feeling when it comes to dealing with the opposite sex and getting positive responses before you even say a word I can tell you what it feels like. It's pretty sweet.
USMCHokie Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I was at a POF meet last night & a dude that literally looked like George McFly from back to the future was there in a suit & overcoat & the more attractive women (which were about average) were talking to him quite a bit. It really surprised me. Granted he was in the 50yr range and skinny so he did stand out from the guys with beer bellies. But still, I seriously doubt he goes around with the attitude "I wish I was good looking....." And this is the key. His attire probably gave a perception of financial stability beyond that of the other men there.
rocketman122 Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I was at a POF meet last night & a dude that literally looked like George McFly from back to the future was there in a suit & overcoat & the more attractive women (which were about average) were talking to him quite a bit. It really surprised me. Granted he was in the 50yr range and skinny so he did stand out from the guys with beer bellies. But still, I seriously doubt he goes around with the attitude "I wish I was good looking....." good for him. you dont need to be so good looking but the person should know how to speak to woman as well. the suit and overcoat probably helped as well. and the beer belly guys couldnt compete with that. Genetics is a powerful force I agree. But I will say this, i've never considered myself more than average in looks & my clothes usually make or break me. But being in shape at my age & dressing well puts me in the above average looks compared to my over weight peers. I get attention from women now at 41 who I considered out of my league most of my life. Too bad their lives are so f'd up by the time they hit 40 I don't even want to get involved with them even for FWB's. Doesn't really help you younger guys struggling but I really think adopting the fitness lifestyle & maintaining it can only help you to be more attractive to women even though it may not make you more good looking in the face. yes, I too am 41 and I saw the competition for guys our age on OLD. not too much I have to say. how many guys our age, look like us...? 5%, maybe 10% so we stand out. it wouldnt hurt guys to get to the gym and take care of themselves. yes im going to hear the "and why not woman" but lets talk about us catching them. thats why you and me stand out. we dress well we have style, were fit and thats what will catch a womans eye. I just need her attention for a few seconds so I can move in. after that its knowing how to talk to them. thats a different topic. woman today expect more from a man. theyre much more picky and the man needs to stand out from the average joes. there was an article that said woman are getting prettier and men are not getting better looking. they have more cosmetics catered to them. the fashion industry is pretty much completely directed at them. so even an average 5/10 woman can look like a 7 if she takes care of herself and makes herself pretty. clothing/makeup/hair etc. but this is good for us men. its harder for the woman to find a good looking guy ,I think.. yes, many fkked up older woman out there. Im dating one now. HAHA I can tell you what it feels like. It's pretty sweet. Its always good to be modest, huh Alex?
GirlontheLam Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I think there are more good looking women out there than good looking men. This may be attributed to the fact that media portrays a much wider range of looks for women as good looking...or that men are sexually interested in a wider range of women. So when there's more good looking women out there, it counts a lot less to be one of them. Completely disagree about this one. The standards for "attractive" women i the media is extremely narrow...... the only thing diverse is the clothing choices described as attractive. There is no range of body types, physical features or phenotypes. A wide range of male types are pitched as attractive, although it has narrowed a bit in recent years. Men also have a longer span of when they are considered "attractive" and "sexy" on the whole. 1
USMCHokie Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Completely disagree about this one. The standards for "attractive" women i the media is extremely narrow...... the only thing diverse is the clothing choices described as attractive. There is no range of body types, physical features or phenotypes. Beyonce, Megan Fox, Naomi Campbell, Shakira, Julianne Hough, Jessica Biel, Penelope Cruz, Tyra Banks, Kate Walsh, etc., etc., etc. Surely there's more diversity there than just the clothes they wear... 1
Author PJKino Posted December 14, 2012 Author Posted December 14, 2012 Completely disagree about this one. The standards for "attractive" women i the media is extremely narrow...... the only thing diverse is the clothing choices described as attractive. There is no range of body types, physical features or phenotypes. A wide range of male types are pitched as attractive, although it has narrowed a bit in recent years. Men also have a longer span of when they are considered "attractive" and "sexy" on the whole. My god why are women so obsessed with the media? most beauty standards are made by gay men and as hokie said the female standard of beauty is much more diverse these days with different types of women looked at as sex symbols,for a man to be conventionally attractive he MUST be tall and then go from there The most important thing is what the opposite sex is attracted to and imo men are attracted to a more diverse range of women then vice versa
Revolver Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 My god why are women so obsessed with the media? most beauty standards are made by gay men and as hokie said the female standard of beauty is much more diverse these days with different types of women looked at as sex symbols,for a man to be conventionally attractive he MUST be tall and then go from there The most important thing is what the opposite sex is attracted to and imo men are attracted to a more diverse range of women then vice versa That's one thing I've never understood. The fashion industry is run by gay men and straight women but for some reason straight men get the blame for these "images pressuring women". Your pointing your finger at the wrong people 2
mesmerized Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Beyonce, Megan Fox, Naomi Campbell, Shakira, Julianne Hough, Jessica Biel, Penelope Cruz, Tyra Banks, Kate Walsh, etc., etc., etc. Surely there's more diversity there than just the clothes they wear... Beyonce is attractive but I bet 9 out 10 american men still choose megan fox over her. Men's taste differ more cross culturally. But even that is changing thanks to media.
Lonely Ronin Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Beyonce, Megan Fox, Naomi Campbell, Shakira, Julianne Hough, Jessica Biel, Penelope Cruz, Tyra Banks, Kate Walsh, etc., etc., etc. Surely there's more diversity there than just the clothes they wear... You forgot Emma Stone man, and those lethal eyes she has. 2
SteveC80 Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 It can be pretty awesome lol..Women lose control of their hormonesqwuicker then men contrary to popular belief I dont know how many women said i was arrogant full of myself a player etc then a few minutes later there panties were dropped
ThaWholigan Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 You forgot Emma Stone man, and those lethal eyes she has. And for variety's sake, Ashley Graham
phineas Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 good for him. you dont need to be so good looking but the person should know how to speak to woman as well. the suit and overcoat probably helped as well. and the beer belly guys couldnt compete with that. yes, I too am 41 and I saw the competition for guys our age on OLD. not too much I have to say. how many guys our age, look like us...? 5%, maybe 10% so we stand out. it wouldnt hurt guys to get to the gym and take care of themselves. yes im going to hear the "and why not woman" but lets talk about us catching them. thats why you and me stand out. we dress well we have style, were fit and thats what will catch a womans eye. I just need her attention for a few seconds so I can move in. after that its knowing how to talk to them. thats a different topic. woman today expect more from a man. theyre much more picky and the man needs to stand out from the average joes. there was an article that said woman are getting prettier and men are not getting better looking. they have more cosmetics catered to them. the fashion industry is pretty much completely directed at them. so even an average 5/10 woman can look like a 7 if she takes care of herself and makes herself pretty. clothing/makeup/hair etc. but this is good for us men. its harder for the woman to find a good looking guy ,I think.. yes, many fkked up older woman out there. Im dating one now. HAHA Its always good to be modest, huh Alex? I'm hoping this also, got two very attractive women i'm talking to now. One is 40 and she acts like she isn't all that interested although we are meeting up next week for sure. but all this week she seems to be "busy" a lot without offering an alternative, but I go a few days without contacting her and she asks me to lunch. LOL! (I had a lunch party & had to decline). The other one is about 41, born in India, attractive & going for her PhD. She wants to meet. But it's going to happen after I meet with the other woman due to her finals. Either way, Both these women I believe are looking for a real relationship & not some casual fling like the majority of women our age I meet these days & since i've decided i'm done with such women & looking for something non casual I think i'm in a good place.
IT Geek Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Sure, grooming, style, and fitness will help, but it can only do so much. you have to start with something. if youre fat and you dress like a bum then you dont have a chance. I knew there were people here who have self esteem problems, but didnt really know there were so many..hmm. If you're fat that will do you in. You can be fat and dress well and still not have a chance. Based on personal experience.
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